Accepting/Producing Subtypes of SLIs and IEEs

[Default]

What, in your experience, do you find to be the differences between accepting and producing varieties of the above types?

Also, in your experience, what seems to stay consistent between the two types? As in, what behaviors seem to apply to every, or almost every ISTp and/or ENFp you know, if there are any?

[Lobo]

What, in your experience, do you find to be the differences between accepting and producing varieties of the above types?

Also, in your experience, what seems to stay consistent between the two types? As in, what behaviors seem to apply to every, or almost every ISTp and/or ENFp you know, if there are any?

I don't know much about subtypes, or really have put that much effort in understanding what they mean. As for your second question, it depends on how you see Socionics... Do you see it as a model that is open for change, or a model that is already accurate? If you are in the second category, then by definition, you would just rely on type descriptions by renowned socionists. The theory is that ISTp/IEE will have certain specific personality traits that are unique to them, because if there weren't any, you wouldn't have distinct types. I think that the best way to answer your question is to just read about what people say in the forum (with a grain of salt) about these types and then compare it to what you encounter irl.

[Default]

Yeah, I should probably look around. It's a lot to read through, though, haha.

I'm just curious as to what people have discovered for themselves.

[Jarno]

What, in your experience, do you find to be the differences between accepting and producing varieties of the above types?

Also, in your experience, what seems to stay consistent between the two types? As in, what behaviors seem to apply to every, or almost every ISTp and/or ENFp you know, if there are any?

difference between accepting and producing is the same as in general.

Accepting: if they talk it seems as if they talk for themselves and let others listen along.
Producing: they are more talking to others, as if they are trying to persuade them.

SLI-Si: very cool and laid back, sharp edged face, read your face when looking. The aesthetic subtype. Social yet still a thrill seeker

SLI-Te: Less socially developed, the mechanic subtype

IEE-Ne: extremely talkative, strange, weird, emotional, hurt, dominant, healthcare subtype

IEE-Fi: more laid back, cool, charming, don juan subtype

questions?

[Simon Ssmall]

Why then there is a theory that Ne subtype is more shy than Fi subtype for example? What would be the basis for it?

Seems people have polarizing views on Fi/Ne subtypes. One say its Ne, others its Fi.

[Jarno]

Why then there is a theory that Ne subtype is more shy than Fi subtype for example? What would be the basis for it?

from my own experience... I don't know any IEE that are shy.

[Suz]

from my own experience... I don't know any IEE that are shy.

Maybe because the shy ones aren't as noticeable or aren't as out there. Or maybe you just dont realize some shy people around you are IEEs. Or maybe the shy ones don't come across as shy to you. I know people who know me well are surprised when I describe myself as shy. For me, shyness depends on who is around me and what the venue is.

[Jarno]

Maybe because the shy ones aren't as noticeable or aren't as out there. Or maybe you just dont realize some shy people around you are IEEs. Or maybe the shy ones don't come across as shy to you. I know people who know me well are surprised when I describe myself as shy. For me, shyness depends on who is around me and what the venue is.

I don't dispute that they exist. I just haven't seen them so I cannot say anything about it

I know one shy SEE and ESE, so I agree that extraverts can be shy.

[JohnDo]

In my opinion Accepting/Producing is not a very useful subtype system. You should rather think about DCNH...

D-SLI: bouncer
C-SLI: hedonist
N-SLI: athlete
H-SLI: pacifist

D-IEE: slob
C-IEE: madman
N-IEE: advsisor
H-IEE: spiritualist

[jewels]

In my opinion Accepting/Producing is not a very useful subtype system. You should rather think about DCNH...

D-SLI: bouncer
C-SLI: hedonist
N-SLI: athlete
H-SLI: pacifist

D-IEE: slob
C-IEE: madman
N-IEE: advsisor
H-IEE: spiritualist

what is DCNH?

[carrina]

In my opinion Accepting/Producing is not a very useful subtype system. You should rather think about DCNH...

D-SLI: bouncer
C-SLI: hedonist
N-SLI: athlete
H-SLI: pacifist

D-IEE: slob
C-IEE: madman
N-IEE: advsisor
H-IEE: spiritualist

John, where did you find this? Do you have a link? I'm in the middle of discovering a dual friendship with what I think is the bouncer subtype. I'd like to have a source to reference my experience to.

[suedehead]

I just go by the inert/contact dichotomy.