Rick DeLong

[Beautiful sky]

ST is all I can see...a better picture and one from the side would be good thanks.

[Creepy-cinq]

This is an ENFP...

Annie St. Vincent - Google Search

To be honest, from the side, she looks like she's a j type based on your VI method. I think she's INFj.

[Beautiful sky]

To be honest, from the side, she looks like she's a j type based on your VI method. I think she's INFj.

Where did you get a side picture of her?

With a better side picture she could be INFj.

[Jimbean]

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[Galen]

Since I can't read what Maritsa says, I've mentally replaced all of her posts with the sound of Beaker's voice from the Muppet Show.

I would recommend this course of action to everybody.

[Beautiful sky]

ISTp or ESTj need a side picture.

[Beautiful sky]

To be honest, from the side, she looks like she's a j type based on your VI method. I think she's INFj.

You're right, didn't even see the side pic, she is an INFj.

[Beautiful sky]

To be honest, from the side, she looks like she's a j type based on your VI method. I think she's INFj.

You're right, didn't even see the side pic, she is an INFj. See, that's what I mean that I have bad vision and if I you guys learned VI you would type faster then I, I need time and concentration to type.

[Creepy-cinq]

You're right, didn't even see the side pic, she is an INFj.

Well, this is my issue with your typing methodologies. You categorically stated she's an ENFp. I suggest she's INFj based on your VI method, and you flip your decision. You didn't even verify her side view initially.

[Galen]

meep meep meep meep meep meep

[Beautiful sky]

Well, this is my issue with your typing methodologies. You categorically stated she's an ENFp. I suggest she's INFj based on your VI method, and you flip your decision. You didn't even verify her side view.

You typed her correctly, I don't have that kind of vision. See, if I hadn't seen a side picture I would have typed her ENFp or INFp..but you say a side picture and you proved the J.

That alone tells you that
1. the method works.
2. you need more then one person with great vision to type...I didn't get her verified with my three other typing sources when I typed her the first time, which was my huge mistake.

[Creepy-cinq]

You typed her correctly, I don't have that kind of vision.

You don't really know if I typed her correctly. Honestly Maritsa. I threw the post out there to see if you'd bite. And, you did.

I've not believed in your side view measurement. It's subjective, and you've not substantiated this methodology. We've been over this before.

[Beautiful sky]

You don't really know if I typed her correctly. Honestly Maritsa. I threw the post out there to see if you'd bite. And, you did.

I've not believed in your side view measurement. It's subjective, and you've not substantiated this methodology. We've been over this before.

Okay then why did you follow it? I sent her pictures to Dr. Antonina right now and to Rod I am waiting for verification.

[Galen]

[Creepy-cinq]

Okay then why did you follow it? I sent her pictures to Dr. Antonina right now and to Rod I am waiting for verification.

To prove a point. Your typing methods are not well founded.

[Beautiful sky]

To prove a point. Your typing methods are not well founded.

but you followed it and it works. Try it now on more people, register on a free dating site like plenty of fish and fish for similar types and read people's profiles and you'll see.

Just follow the method and observe observe and observe people, in every form and you will see.

[Blaze]

maritsa....i think you are in love with rick and want him to be your dual.

....

[Beautiful sky]

Why is martisa doing all the work? Why doesn't that Rod person come and explain this theory in detail? Or is it a fluke to think they are out trying to convert us 'ignorant westerners' to the true path of socionics?

Seriously, this smells like a fucking cult. I think Martisa is acting as a puppet for some douches trying to oppress people by taking away their common sense and using pawns for the dirty work.

For any of you cult minded fucks reading this who propagate this shit through users like Martisa, go fuck a toaster oven until you learn what meets academic standards and scientific standards, DO the actual testing needed to prove your theory at the cost of most likely having your ridiculous assertions be disproven. Use REAL statistics that can be verified. Publish some shit in some peer reviewed journals and NOT just in the Socionics Institute, and until then, SHUT. THE FUCK UP and LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE.

And if you people care so much about poor Martisa being beaten by the evil clowns, then BACK HER UP. I know you can speak English or post in Russian so we can read it through Babel speak means, but you people who come and pretend to save poor Martisa from the evil clowns are too cowardly to come and back what she is saying. I can see if you won't cast your 'pearls,' but come on!

From what little Rick has said, I am convinced you are a league of nut jobs who mislead a lot of people who are attempting to mislead us to little avail.

I've seen people like you trying to brainwash people with their so called truth about the universe, but you know what, most people don't buy it because it MAKES NO SENSE.

I realize you people, if you are reading this cannot tell Martisa it is useless, but for YOU, I think YOU should take a few college level science courses in some universities which don't entertain bull shit theories and accredit anyone who says 'yes' to their stupid pet doctrines.

I am so SICK of confronting your cowardly kind in how you abuse, control, manipulate, and render people as thoughtless sludge to adopt your hair-brained nonsense.

FUCK OFF.

Thanks Rick...I can see you and your writing. Like using statistics and other key method and way of your writing.

[Galen]

[Beautiful sky]

Rick,

You are such a coward yourself, you know, I as an INFj can't make people do anything...that's your job. But, truth and real will always speak for themselves because they can not be altered.

I am shaking your world and the way you used to view things and you are scared out of your mind.

[Beautiful sky]

Jimbean is ISTp type

[Galen]

Quick your dawdling and hurry back to the laboratory, Beaker. We have more tests to run!

[Creepy-cinq]

but you followed it and it works. Try it now on more people, register on a free dating site like plenty of fish and fish for similar types and read people's profiles and you'll see.

I'm sure they will all have side view profiles...

[Beautiful sky]

I'm sure they will all have side view profiles...

I ask them to email me one so that I can ID my duals. Too bad I didn't have a side view of that girl I typed...that's a shame I couldn't find one.

[Beautiful sky]

Stop writing or throwing garbage at me Rick and please do try to use the scientific method, at least I am and you are NOT

[Beautiful sky]

Again...you don't seem to understand I have already developed vast number of testing methods all are very effective; written and all kinds and I am trying to ask you to test for yourself as well and stop being a jerk because the day I bring Socionics into the West is the day you will fall behind because I will be doing it the right way which is through publication of works and academic studies all of which you have not done.

[Beautiful sky]

Everyone...Rick is ESTj type; both morphologically and by his written works in his blog...that is the best example of LSE and I will offer more.

[Galen]

Sika Deer
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Sika Deer
Male (Stag or Hart)
Female (Hind)
Conservation status

Least Concern (IUCN 3.1)[1]
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Cervidae
Subfamily: Cervinae
Genus: Cervus
Species: C. nippon
Binomial name
Cervus nippon
Temminck, 1838
Subspecies

C. n. aplodontus
C. n. dybowskii
C. n. grassianus
C. n. keramae
C. n. kopschi
C. n. mandarinus
C. n. mantchuricus
C. n. pseudaxis
C. n. pulchellus
C. n. sichuanicus
C. n. taioanus
C. n. yesoensis

The Sika Deer, also known as the Spotted Deer or the Japanese Deer (Cervus nippon) is a species of deer that is native to much of East Asia, and also introduced to various parts of the world. It was previously found from Vietnam to the south and Russia to the north. Their name comes from "shika" (鹿), the Japanese word for "deer". The sika deer is not to be confused with the sitka deer, which is a subspecies of the mule deer, a distantly related species.
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* 1 Taxonomy
o 1.1 Subspecies
* 2 Description
* 3 Behavior
* 4 Range and Habitat
* 5 Status
o 5.1 Introduced populations
* 6 Hunting
* 7 Antler trade
* 8 See also
* 9 References
* 10 Further Reading
* 11 External links

[edit] Taxonomy

The sika deer is a member of the genus Cervus, a group of deers also known as the "true deers". Cervus was formerly a large genus consisting of 12 species, but recent genetic studies discovered that the species are more distantly related to each other than previously thought, and 8 species and 3 genera split out. The sika deer, along with the elk, red deer, and central asian red deer, remained in the genus Cervus, with the white-tailed deer of genus Przewalskium being closely related.
[edit] Subspecies

There has been serious genetic pollution in many populations, especially Japan. Therefore the status of many subspecies remain uncertain. This is just one of the many different lists of the sika deer's subspecies.

* aplodontus: found in Northern Honshu
* grassianus: Shanxi, China
* keramae: Ryukyu Islands
* kopschi: Southern China
* mandarinus: Northern and Northeastern China
* mantchuricus: Northeastern China, Korea, and Russian Far East.
* nippon: found in Southern Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu
* pseudaxis: Northern Vietnam
* pulchellus: Tsushima Island
* sichuanicus: Western China.
* taioanus: Taiwan
* yesoensis: Hokkaido

[edit] Description

The sika deer is one of the few species that do not lose their spots at maturity. Sikas from different areas differ in the numbers and obviousness of spots, with the ones from mainland Asia having large and obvious spots throughout the year, while the spots in Taiwanese and some Japanese populations are nearly invisible.
Sika deer in Shiretoko Peninsula, Hokkaido, Japan

Sika deer tend to range in color from mahogany to black. They are rarely white with very few documented cases of white as opposed to albino. They are medium sized herbivores, being 50 - 95cm tall at the shoulder, and weighing 30 - 70 kg. Males are noticeably larger than females. All sikas are compact and dainty-legged with short, trim, wedge-shaped head and a boisterous disposition. When alarmed, they will often display a distinctive flared rump much like the American elk. All sikas posses the white rump except the population of Ryukyu Island.

Sika stags have stout, upright antlers with an extra buttress up from the brow tine and a very thick wall. A forward-facing intermediate tine breaks the line to the top, which is usually forked. Occasionally, sika develop some palmation. Females carry a pair of distinctive black bumps on the forehead. Antler length can range from 11 to 19 inches to better than 30 inches depending on the subspecies. Stags also sport a distinctive mane while in the rut.
[edit] Behavior
Sika deer grazing

In areas without human disturbance, sika deers could be active for the whole day. Lifestyles vary between individuals, with some occurring alone while others found in single-sex groups. Large herds will gather in autumn and winter. The sika deer is a highly vocal species, with over 10 individual sounds ranging from soft whistles to loud screams.

Sika males are territorial and keep harems of females during the rut, which peaks from early September through October but may last well into the winter months. Territory size varies with type of habitat and size of the buck; strong, prime bucks may hold up to 2 ha. Territories are marked with a series of shallow pits, called "scrapes," into which the males urinate and from which emanates a strong, musky odor. Fights between rival males are sometimes fierce, long, and may even be fatal.
[edit] Range and Habitat

Sika deers previously had a wide distribution across East Asia from Vietnam to Russian Far East. Today their range is heavily reduced and fragmented in all areas except Japan, where the species remain common. It is extinct from Vietnam and Korea, and in China it is limited to 2 or 3 small wild populations in the Southern part of the country. There are many so called wild populations of sika deer in China, which are actually descended from escaped domesticated deers. In Russia the species is only found in Primorsky Krai.

Sika deer are found in the temperate/subtropical forests of Eastern Asia, preferring areas with dense understory, and where snowfall does not exceed 10-20 cm. They tend to forage in patchy clearings of forests. Introduced populations are found in areas with similar habitats to their native range, including Western and Central Europe, Eastern United States, and New Zealand.
[edit] Status
Formosan Sika Deer.

The sika deer inhabits the temperate and subtropical woodlands, which unfortunately are also the perfect habitats for farming and human exploitation. The sika deers are found in one of the most densely populated areas in the world, and forests are cleared away hundreds of years ago. The population status of sika deers differs significantly from the countries they are found in, due to the views of the species by people.

Japan has the largest native sika populations in the world. There are over hundreds of thousands sika deers in the wild and the numbers are still increasing. This is mainly due to the recent conservation efforts and the extinction of wolves, its main predator, from the country. Without its main enemy the population of sika deers boomed and is now overpopulated in many areas, posing a threat to both forests and farmlands. Hunting is now encouraged in Japan.

China used to have the largest population of sika deers, but thousands of years of hunting and forest logging has reduced the population to less than 1,000. Only 2 of the 5 subspecies remain, each existing in single populations of a couple hundred individuals. The other three subspecies still remain in farms and zoos, but the lack of decent habitats in the region have made reintroduction impossible.

The species was previously extinct in Taiwan, but individuals from zoos was introduced in Kenting National Park and the population now numbers 200. Reintroduction programs are also underway in Vietnam, where the species is currently extinct.

Russia has a relatively large and stable population of 9,000, but it is limited to a small area in Primorsky Krai.

The species is likely to be extinct in Korea, but unconfirmed sightings are frequent from the northeastern mountains of North Korea, possibly having migrated from Russia.
[edit] Introduced populations

Sika Deer have been introduced into a number of other countries including Australia, Austria, Denmark, Germany, Britain, France, Ireland, Jolo Island (southern Philippines), New Zealand, Poland, Morocco and the United States (Maryland, Texas, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Kansas). In many cases they were originally introduced as ornamental animals in parkland, but have established themselves in the wild.

In Britain and Ireland several distinct wild and feral populations now exist. Some of these are in isolated areas, for example on the island of Lundy, but others are contiguous with populations of the native Red Deer. Since the two species sometimes hybridise, there is a serious conservation concern.[1]

In the 1900s, King Edward VII presented a pair of sika deer (Cervus nippon) to John, the second Baron Montagu of Beaulieu. This pair escaped into Sowley Wood and were the basis of the large herds of sika to be found in the New Forest today. They were so prolific that culling had to be introduced in the 1930s to control numbers.[2]
[edit] Hunting
Sika deer in winter

Across its original range, and more intensively in many countries to which it has been introduced, the sika is regarded as a particularly prized and elusive sportsman's quarry. In Britain, Ireland and mainland Europe it has been noted that sika display very different survival strategies and escape tactics from the indigenous deer. They have a marked tendency to use camouflage and concealment in circumstances when Red deer, for example, would flee; and have been seen to squat and lie belly-flat when danger threatens in the form of human intrusion.

Hunters and control cullers have estimated that the sika's wariness and "cleverness" makes it three or four times more difficult to bring to bag than a Red or Fallow deer.[citation needed] It has also been widely remarked that sika are much more tenacious of life, and harder to kill with a rifle bullet, than the native deer of Europe and North America. In the British Isles sika are widely regarded as a very serious threat to new and established woodlands, and public and private forestry bodies adopt policies of rigorous year-round culling, generally with little effect.

Among aficionados of venison, sika flesh is regarded as one of the very finest and most flavourful of all game meats at the dinner table.[citation needed]
[edit] Antler trade
Tame deer wandering the streets of Miyajima, Japan

Sika Deer in China had been domesticated long ago for antler trades, along with several other species. In Taiwan, both Formosan Sika Deer and Formosan Sambar Deer (Cervus unicolor swinhoei) have been farmed for velvet antlers. The only exceptions that may have integrity as a subspecies are possibly the Dybowski's Sika deer of Manchuria and Ussuri region, and the sika deer subspecies that survive in Japan, Ryukyu Islands, and Taiwan. Japan is the only country in Eastern Asia where sika deer were not farmed for velvet antler.

Other deer raised for antler trade were Thorold's Deer (Cervus albirostris), various Central Asian Red Deer (Cervus affinis) subspecies, and Wapiti (Cervus canadensis) subspecies.
[edit] See also

* Red Deer - European Red Deer
* Central Asian Red Deer - Asian/Himalayan/Tibetan Red Deer
* Elk - East Asian/North American Red Deer (Wapiti)
* Thorold's Deer

[edit] References

1. ^ Harris, R.B. (2008). Cervus nippon. In: IUCN 2008. IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Downloaded on 5 April 2009. Database entry includes a brief justification of why this species is of least concern.
2. ^ "British Mammals: Sika Deer". BBC. 15 June 2007. BBC - h2g2 - British Mammals: Sika Deer. Retrieved 8 October 2009.

* Cervus nippon (TSN 180696). Integrated Taxonomic Information System. Retrieved on 10 February 2006.
* Igota, H., Sakagura, M., Uno, H., Kaji, K., Maneko, M., Akamatsu, R., & Maekawa, (in press). Seasonal patterns of female sika deer in eastern Hokkaidō, Japan. Ecological Research, 19.

[edit] Further Reading

O'Brien, D.J., Roodey, S.M. and Hayden, T.J. 2009. A differential vulnerability to hunting between the sexes in Sika-type calves. I. Nat. J. 30: 7- 9.
[edit] External links
Search Wikimedia Commons Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Sika Deer
Search Wikispecies Wikispecies has information related to: Cervus nippon

* Hunting Sika in New Zealand
* Photos of sika deer in Nara, Japan
* Sika Deer Hunting
* Sika Deer in New Zealand and their distribution.

[Brilliand]

Thanks Rick...I can see you and your writing. Like using statistics and other key method and way of your writing.

You think aixelsid is Rick?

[Galen]

Arctures is now niffweed incarnate!! :amazed:

Oh I thought we were playing "paste large blocks of text." My mistake.

[Brilliand]

David F. Case
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David F. Case

Born 1937
New York, U.S.
Occupation novelist, short story writer
Nationality U.S.
Genres horror, Fantasy, Western fiction

David F. Case (born 1937) is an American writer of short stories and novelist.
Contents
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* 1 Biography
* 2 Works
* 3 Short stories
* 4 Novel Publications with David Case's work
* 5 Collections by David Case
* 6 Anthologies containing David Case stories
* 7 References
* 8 External links

[edit] Biography

David F. Case was born in 1937 in upstate New York. He spends much of his time in either London or Greece. Outside of the horror genre, Case has written over 300 books under at least 17 different pseudonyms, ranging from porn to Westerns.

David Case's first collection, The Cell: Three Tales of Horror appeared in 1969. It was followed by the novels Fengriffen: A Chilling Tale, Wolf Tracks and The Third Grave.

His most recent collection is Brotherly Love and Other Tales of Faith and Knowledge was published by Pumpkin Books.

His novel Fengriffen was adapted into the film And Now the Screaming Starts! (1973). His classic werewolf thriller The Hunter was adapted into a TV movie called Scream of the Wolf (1974).

Meanwhile his first Western, Plumb Drillin', which was originally set to be a movie starring Steve McQueen, has recently been re-optioned.

David Case has one unpubllished novel in need of a home with a publishing house. The novel is called The Thing That Raped Women. A copy of the typescript bearing that title can be found in the Ramsey Campbell archive in the Sydney Jones Library at the University of Liverpool.

It turns out that "Jimmy" by David Case is in actuality the same story dubbed by Ramsey Campbell as "The thing that raped women." There are two versions of "Jimmy" in existence. The first appeared in Case's collection Brotherly Love, and the original longer alternative manuscript that originally got lost in transit appears in By Moonlight Only. The version of "Jimmy" in '"Brotherly Love"' is the version that Case had written entirely from memory due to having lost the original manuscript. Once the lost manuscript miraculously turned up, the alternative version of the story saw print.

David Case's powerful zombie novella "Pelican Cay" in Dark Terrors 5 was nominated for a World Fantasy Award in 2001.

David Case will be a guest of honor at the World Horror Convention taking place in Brighton England in 2010.

PS Publishing will be putting out a new collection of David Case's work in honor of Case's appearance at the World Horror Convention in 2010. The collection will be entitled Pelican Cay and Other Disquieting Tales (2010) , edited by Stephen Jones.
[edit] Works

* The Cell: Three Tales of Horror (1969)
* Fengriffen and Other Stories (1971)
* The Third Grave (1980)
* Wolf Tracks (1980)
* Brotherly Love & OtherTales of Faith and Knowledge (1999)
* Pelican Cay and Other Disquieting Tales (2010)

[edit] Short stories

* The Dead End (1969)
* The Hunter (1969)
* Fengriffen (1971)
* The War is Over (1988)
* Cannibal Feast (1994)
* Jimmy (1999)
* Pelican Cay (2000)
* Among the Wolves
* The Cell
* A Cross to Bear
* Neighbours
* Reflection
* Strange Roots
* Brotherly Love
* The Foreign Bride
* Ogre of the Cleft
* Anachrona
* Reflection
* Twins
* The Terrestrial Fancy
* Penny Wise
* Skulls
* The Cave

[edit] Novel Publications with David Case's work

* Fengriffen: A chilling tale (1970)

aka '"And Now the Screaming Starts"' (an alternative title to Fengriffen to reflect the film adaptation)

* Wolf Tracks
* The Third Grave

[edit] Collections by David Case

* The Cell: Three Tales of Horror (1969)-- Contains the stories "The Cell," "The Hunter," and "The Dead End."
* Fengriffen and Other Stories (1971—Contains the novel Fengriffen and the stories "Among the Wovles" and "Strange Roots"
* Brotherly Love: And Other Tales of Faith and Knowledge (1999)--Contains the stories "Brotherly Love," "The Foreign Bride," "The Ogre of the Cleft," "Jimmy," "Anachrona," and "The Terrestrial Fancy."
* Pelican Cay and Other Disquieting Tales (2010)--Contains the stories "Pelican Cay," "Penny Wise," "Reflection," "Skulls," "The Cannibal Feast," "The War is Over," "The Cave." [Note: The deluxe, signed edition additionally contains "PENNY WISE" (variant draft) and "TWINS" (a re-working of a chapter from "SKULLS").]

[edit] Anthologies containing David Case stories

* The 11th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1970)--Contains "The Cell"
* The 12th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1971)--Contains "The Hunter"
* The 13th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1972)--Contains "The Dead End"
* The 14th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1973)--Contains "Strange Roots"
* The 15th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1974)--Contains "Among the Wolves"
* The 19th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1978)--Contains "Neighbors"
* The 22nd Pan Book of Horror Stories (1981)--Contains "A Cross to Bear"
* Fantasy Tales Vol. 8 #16 (1986)--Contains "Twins"
* Fine Frights: Stories That Scared Me (1988)--Contains "The War is Over"
* The Mammoth Book of Short Horror Novels (1988)--Contains Fengriffen
* Dark Voices: The Best from the Pan Book of Horror Stories (1990)--Contains "The Hunter"
* Dark Voices 6: The Pan Book of Horror (1994)--Contains "Cannibal Feast"
* The Mammoth Book of Frankenstein (1994)--Contains "The Dead End"
* Dark of the Night (1997)--Contains "Reflection"
* Dark Terrors 5 (2000)--Contains "Pelican Cay"
* The Mammoth Book of Best New Horror Volume Eleven (2000)--Contains "Jimmy"
* By Moonlight Only (2003)--Contains alternative and longer version of "Jimmy"
* The Mammoth Book of New Terror (2004)--Contains "Among the Wolves"

[edit] References

* "The Authors and Editors of Arkham House". Authors. Retrieved 2007-01-19.
* Joshi, S.T. (1999). Sixty Years of Arkham House: A History and Bibliography. Sauk City, WI: Arkham House. pp. 147. ISBN 0-87054-176-5.

[edit] External links

* David Case at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_F._Case"
Categories: 1937 births | Living people | Western (genre) writers | American fantasy writers | American horror writers

[Galen]

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Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3] A more comprehensive definition of socialism is an economic system that has transcended commodity production and wage labor, where economic activity is carried out to maximize use-value as opposed to exchange-value and thus a corresponding change in social and economic relations, including the organization of economic institutions and resource allocation[4]; based on economic rationalization to overcome anarchy of production in order to further advance the economy toward superabundance[5], often implying advocacy for a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.[6]

Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potential[7] and does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public.[8]

Many socialists, from Henri de Saint-Simon, one of the founders of early socialism (Utopian Socialism), to Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx, advocated for the creation of a society that allows for the widespread application of modern technology to rationalise economic activity by eliminating the anarchy of capitalist production.[9][10] They reasoned that this would allow for wealth and power to be distributed based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is disagreement among socialists over how and to what extent this can be achieved.

Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and programme; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalisation (usually in the form of economic planning), but sometimes oppose each other. A dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalisation of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy.

Socialists inspired by the Soviet model of economic development have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, German and Chinese communist governments in the 1970s and 1980s, have instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not free prices for the means of production).[11] Modern social democrats propose selective nationalisation of key national industries in mixed economies, while maintaining private ownership of capital and private business enterprise. (In the 19th and early 20th century the term was used to refer to those who wanted to completely replace capitalism with socialism through reform.) Modern social democrats also promote tax-funded welfare programs and regulation of markets; many, particularly in European welfare states, refer to themselves as socialists, despite holding pro-capitalist viewpoints, thus adding ambiguity to the meaning of the term "socialist". Libertarian socialism (including social anarchism and libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.

Modern socialism originated in the late 18th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticised the effects of industrialisation and private ownership on society. The utopian socialists, including Robert Owen (1771–1858), tried to found self-sustaining communes by secession from a capitalist society. Henri de Saint Simon (1760–1825), the first individual to coin the term socialisme, was the original thinker who advocated technocracy and industrial planning.[12] The first socialists predicted a world improved by harnessing technology and combining it with better social organisation, and many contemporary socialists share this same belief. Early socialist thinkers tended to favour an authentic meritocracy combined with rational social planning, while many modern socialists have a more egalitarian approach.

Vladimir Lenin, drawing on Karl Marx's ideas of "lower" and "upper" stages of socialism[13] defined socialism as a transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[14]
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[Brilliand]

No, I was playing let's bring up semi-related articles to put things in perspective. You can believe what you want, but it hurts to see people delude themselves and attempt to do so to others.

I wish I was Rick...sometimes.

Not really, but I would feel badass.

You think Rick feels badass?

[Brilliand]

But if Rick sees a lot of this stuff with socionics, no wonder he is jaded about the theory.

I fear the pseudoscience will win the battle for the name "Socionics"...

[Beautiful sky]

Here look at my VI and tell me I'm not a J?

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...316-vi-js.html

Not an INFp but an INFj. ... that makes me Rick's dual, because I am of the J family of human beings not P

[Beautiful sky]

I fear the pseudoscience will win the battle for the name "Socionics"...

Fear only comes to those who don't want to see...isn't that what Budha said?

[crazedrat]

congratulations rick

[Beautiful sky]

What type is queen Neferititi of Egypt? How far back can we trace ourselves?

http://www.soton.ac.uk/humanitiespar.../nefertiti.jpg

http://www.dollsofindia.com/dollsofi...een_PF80_l.jpg

http://euler.slu.edu/~bart/egyptfoto...ti-wilbour.jpg

[Beautiful sky]

ESTj/ LSE

[Suz]

I have to say I agree with Rick about the cult thing.

I've been saying for a while now that Maritsa seems to be marketing her "mentor's" version of socionics. It was obvious from her "review" of Rod Novichkov's book on Amazon (her mentor appears to be this Rod Novichkov dude).

I too find it weird that Maritsa is the one who is here trying really hard to explain her mentor's socionics but making no sense whatsoever, whether this is due to her own socionics type and "Te/Ti failures" thereof (as she likes to blame it on) or because she just doesn't understand her mentor's socionics that well (she keeps making self-acknowledged typing mistakes and is very unclear and inconsistent in her explanations), or because this socionics method that Rod Novichkov has come up with really does not work. Where is your mentor? Why is he not here to spread the enlightenment? Why is he making you do it, Maritsa? (p.s. is he this ESTj you are "with"?)

So yes, Rick, I can see the wisdom in what you said. And yes Maritsa appears to be part of this VI "cult."

As for Rick's type--from that amazing description of IEE's on his blog, there is NO question in my mind. NO question whatsoever, that Rick is IEE. He described me in a way no other socionist has been able to in any type description available in English. Why? Because in that description, he described himself. Unless, Maritsa, you are saying that what he described in that IEE description under Ne primary is really Te primary, or the Si dual seeking he wrote about is really Fi dual seeking, etc. Yeah, I dont think so.

Oh, and yes, Rick's wife could very possibly be ISTp. No-one argued that assertion as far as I could tell. All that means is that Rick married his dual. Not a big surprise there, especially with him having knowledge of socionics.

The rest of what you are substantiating his type to be LSE is just, as someone said, an observation of Te-valuing. Not everyone is as lackadaisically resigned to just using our own ego functions as you are, Maritsa (and being retardedly dependent on others dress you, choose food for you, etc). Normal people try to develop their functions to different extents whether or not it is easy for us, especially valued functions but undervalued functions as well depending on what our interactions we have needed to have in life, whether for our careers, relationships, etc. That is why you are so dependent on your cult leader and have not really achieved anything of much substance in life. Having knowledge of socionics is not a career, Maritsa, it's a hobby. Come on, you're 31 years old already. What have you achieved in life? Learn to use your other functions and, most importantly, dont assume everyone is as helpless as you are in using them.