You know I already did, manipulator. You responded to my comments to that very post in your blog.
You said something along the lines of S-types' eyes work together, N-types eyes can work independently. My comments expressed confusion as to how you can possibly judge this from one, or even a few photos, of someone looking AT a camera.
So my demand is that you show us a photo that shows your eyes working independently. Since you are such a professed N-type and all.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Rick and Vero, I am done with this kind of treatment by WorkaholicAnon and other's, I don't like to ignor people, she doesn't seem to understand how important it is to be typed correctly...I can't stand this, I'm sorry...If you want to continue to ask me questions please email me or create a thread where people like her and other's don't have access to it and don't mombard me with tasks they don't want to share...I have asked her several times to post her pictures so you can see the effects of VI method but she keeps doing this, I have ESFp friends, but never have I seen one wanting to be another type. It just doesn't make sense, I though it was because she was in love with a guy I typed as SLI once, but this is very unhealthy for her and for me.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
It's because you are forcing a type on me that I dont identify with at all. Otherwise, like you said, I'd be happy having finally discovered my type.
And I felt duality with SLIs, which is another clue to the fact that I'm not what you typed me. Sure I like him a lot, people like their duals a lot once they get to know them well (which I did in this case). I dont think it's love at all. I know tons of ILIs and do not feel the same with them. Or, are you saying duality doesn't exist? You are contradicting yourself, Maritsa.
I believe this response of Maritsa's represents our victory!!!!!!! I think i've effectively debunked much of the nonsense she has spewed. PLEASE Maritsa, do go to a thread that allows no-one else access. It'll be a welcome relief actually.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
WorkaholicAnon, shame on you! You need to understand how important it is to be typed correctly! This is very unhealthy for you!
It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Hehe now you see how fun she can be Rick :3
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Exactly, so why are you trying to force a type on me that I am not, never have been, not am currently, and never will be? Never have aspired to be, and never regret not being, and hope never to be like an SEE. My visceral reaction to your pushy typing of me is because I dont want to feel emotionally unhealthy, which I do just thinking about the possibility of my identicals being SEEs. Maybe you should take your own advice, Maritsa.
(sorry SEEs, I am just not like that. . .no offense to you guys).
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I am trying to tell you what type you are so you can lead a happy, full, fulfilled, wonderful life, I don't want you to get hurt...I endured the emotions of one friend going through a relationship with an SLI, now that I know you, I feel morally responsible for not having warned you, told you and protected you to the best of my ability.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Except I'm not that type. So stop trying to tell me that's my type. Instead why dont you feel morally responsible for the possibility of mistyping me (I thought you had Ne in your ego?? apparently you cannot see different possibilities). If the SLI is wrong for me, I'll figure it out myself. I dont need your retarded protection.
I agree, you are IEI.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
If you guys had given Rod and I the chance years ago, you would have had so much data related to type you wouldn't have known what to do with it and it would have been scientific and accurate, but now you will have to either ignor, deny, or wait until my paper comes out.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Look at the VI typings here Rick...as an example...makes no logical sense...none at all
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ive-la-vi.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
coulda, woulda, shoulda. . .
To do research like that doesn't require permission from anonymous people on an anonymous forum. Sounds like you've had plenty of people to study in your life. It's not about being denied the opportunity to acquire data. You need to go about it in a scientific way (which you haven't). And if you want to prove it's in the genes, you need to involve genomics or proteomics. If you want to prove the shape of the neck is related to DNA is related to personality traits, you really need to correlate each of those to each other to be able to say that. If you want to demonstrate N vs S via eye direction on a photo, you really have to standardize it in some way and make it reproducible enough to be a reliable indicator before you can say is a "highly accurate" method.
Don't forget, I'm a scientist and I've read lots of scientific papers (and written a few myself). It's common for peoples' research to be faulty, even conducted the scientific way. The way you describe your research shows no proof of anything, nor appears to have been done in a remotely scientific way (actually there is no way to do it scientifically, i.e. with controls, etc--who would your controls be? which personality type? trick question).
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I have asked several times for people to tell me what their method of VI was and I get gut feeling...well if that's VI and it's not genetic then there are billions of gut feeling...that's not very measurable is it dear? ...so dualize, because I am damn good at VI
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
YES!!!! Now we are getting somewhere! Thank you Maritsa for finally admitting it. VI is SUBJECTIVE. Judging someone's personality type is SUBJECTIVE. As in, NOT MEASUREABLE. So, how do you dare come and say ANY V. I. method, be it yours, or Rod's or Filatova's, or whoever's, is "highly accurate" or "proven". You substantiated the point I was making, actually.
All you might be "damn good" at is recognizing a slanted vs straight neck, and sloped vs protruding forehead, some luster in the eye and possssibly whether or not someone's eyes work together. It does not mean you are any good at judging someone's socionics type. (You aren't). You didn't even get yours right.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Look an ESTJ here...
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...j-artists.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Looks like my Ne primary won out.
Look, Maritsa, I can think of a billion reasons why your version of socionics and what you are claiming is totally unfounded and inaccurate. Reasons obviously neither you, nor your mentors even considered.
You really can't compete with Ne (and you obviously dont have it). If you want to, you better answer all the unanswered questions before making such outrageous claims as you have. It's what I do every day. I think of what possible questions people might have about what I'm doing, and I make sure my bases are covered before making my findings public, even to my superior. And I imagine that is Rick's state of mind as well.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Follow your passion, and it will work out...watch that video...you will see you in there, economical, environmentally conscious... using the word efficiency and effectiveness like you do...relating much?
Remember dear, you don't know you until someone points it out or until you see your identical type doing something or saying something that looks like you.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html