I'm SLE

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 03:43 AM

And not like before when I was just screwing around. Now I'm probably about 65% confident about this typing.

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 03:50 AM

I'm about 65% confident that you are not famous. Thread moved.

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 03:51 AM

Oh, and, you are not SLE, and I'm more than 65% confident about that. Though, it is about time you questioned your type

WELCOME BACK

**redbaron** · 12-23-2009, 03:56 AM

I dunno, she might be.

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 03:58 AM

No. She isn't.

**1981slater** · 12-23-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by redbaron

I dunno, she might be.

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 11:25 AM

Things I'm sure about:

I'm a logical type: 99% (I don't think it wise to believe to be 100% confident about any of these.)
I'm an Se/Ni type: 96%
I'm an extrovert: 80%
Fi PoLR and Fe Hidden Agenda: 60%
I am not Fe dominant: 99.99999%

Maybe I should make a video. Or video chat. Or something. You'll see what I mean about that last one, 1981slater.

Originally Posted by Gilly

Inexcusable. You shall suffer the consequences.

Bring it on!

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Gilly

I'm about 65% confident that you are not famous. Thread moved.

Whoops.

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 04:05 AM

"WHOOPS" DOESNT MAKE IT OK

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 04:07 AM

WHAT WOULD MAKE IT OKAY????

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 04:33 AM

Ultimate subservience.

**Ezra** · 02-02-2010, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Gilly

I'm about 65% confident that you are not famous. Thread moved.

lmfao

**Lotus** · 02-02-2010, 11:27 AM

joy you seem totally EJ and not laid-back at all enough to be SLE. besides, Se, confidence, and such is much more implicit in SXEs. with you, it's more "i want to use my resources to mobilize _____!!"

they just don't do that. its not a strategy/action sequence to them lol

**Ezra** · 02-02-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Allie

joy you seem totally EJ and not laid-back at all enough to be SLE. besides, Se, confidence, and such is much more implicit in SXEs. with you, it's more "i want to use my resources to mobilize _____!!"

they just don't do that. its not a strategy/action sequence to them lol

I agree she seems more EJ than EP, but I think Fe base is a stupid suggestion.

Creepy-Cyclops · 02-02-2010, 12:16 PM

Joy reminds me of an ENTj friend of mine.

They VI the same, and they both give me some similar vibes.

I say ENTj for Joy.

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 02:14 PM

Yeah.

**crazedrat** · 12-23-2009, 02:26 PM

there is no way we are either duals or semi duals. either way you put it, just no.

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 02:30 PM

But mirrors is okay?

**Hot Scalding Gayser** · 12-23-2009, 02:55 PM

This is what I meant when I said that you can make the types mean whatever you want them to mean because they are so vague. This is like the 62340927849087th time you changed your type.

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 03:04 PM

Fourth, actually. And one of those changes only lasted a few days. Another only lasted a few months, at most.

**Hot Scalding Gayser** · 12-23-2009, 03:17 PM

Well, still, a lot. =D

**Joy** · 12-23-2009, 03:52 PM

Five types in four years... Eh well. I've never claimed to be the most self-aware person.

**Jarno** · 12-23-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Joy

Five types in four years... Eh well. I've never claimed to be the most self-aware person.

Maybe here's the first problem.

Selftyping hasn't got anything to do with self awarenes, but with comparing yourself with groups.

example, I once asked an IEI-ni gilfriend of mine whether she saw herself as an introvert or extravert (after explaining roughly what that meant.)

She said 'a bit of both'.

After I said, well do you look most like your gilfriend x (an introvert) or your girlfriend y (an extravert). She immediately said, oh I'm more like x.

It's easyer when you compare yourself to others, then to describe yourself.

**Joy** · 12-30-2009, 06:17 AM

And I think I'm actually sx/so, not sx/sp.

**ScarlettLux** · 12-30-2009, 12:35 PM

You know what?

I'm okay with this! You know, I used to read your posts Joy and think you were a sane person that understood things and didn't get the hate around the forum for you. It was weird. I always thought you just 'made sense' most of the time.

**Ezra** · 12-30-2009, 12:45 PM

To be honest, I really don't have much of a problem with it either. That's not to say I think it's definitely the correct typing, but I don't seriously think Joy couldn't be an SLE.

FTR, Joy, I think your type change get more of a warm reception at socionics workshop. I remember talking to Expat about a year and a half ago and he told me that he found LIE difficult to see at first, but if you really thought that, and with discojoe as ESI it really worked, he couldn't find fault.

**Joy** · 12-30-2009, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by ScarlettLux

You know what?

I'm okay with this! You know, I used to read your posts Joy and think you were a sane person that understood things and didn't get the hate around the forum for you. It was weird. I always thought you just 'made sense' most of the time.

I remember thinking we could be in the same quadra as well.

Originally Posted by Ezra

To be honest, I really don't have much of a problem with it either. That's not to say I think it's definitely the correct typing, but I don't seriously think Joy couldn't be an SLE.

FTR, Joy, I think your type change get more of a warm reception at socionics workshop. I remember talking to Expat about a year and a half ago and he told me that he found LIE difficult to see at first, but if you really thought that, and with discojoe as ESI it really worked, he couldn't find fault.

Is he hanging around there again?

You know, honestly I think my relationship with him over the past few years would make a lot more sense with me as an SLE.

There are a handful of people whose intertype relations with me make more sense this way. And as for the fact that most of the people who have been very outspoken against me appear to be Beta... well, maybe it sort of makes sense looking back that it all boiled down to "those crazy Betas fighting among themselves and making a scene".

**redbaron** · 12-30-2009, 06:48 PM

I miss Expat too!

**Joy** · 12-31-2009, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Starfall

I miss Expat; he always had great informative posts.

This is pretty much my opinion as well.

I remember the first time I saw Joy in Stickam. She reminded me so much of the SLE girl I used to know who pretty much owned my high school. They seemed so similar; I actually had go back and question If I'd gotten that girls type right.

Cool, thanks for the input. I far from ruled my school as my social skills pretty much suck and I resented the fact that I was forced to be there to begin with. I pretty much just did what I wanted. Or more specifically, didn't do what I didn't want to do.

I've always been sort of socially isolated though due to my upbringing. This is something I've decided to overcome, however. I'll be starting classes again at the end of January. We'll see what happens. In the meantime, most of my friends right now live half and hour to 45 minutes away and are too into the party scene. This too shall pass.

Originally Posted by redbaron

I miss Expat too!

Me too. I don't expect he'll be back though. I wish him well.

**JuJu** · 01-01-2010, 02:47 AM

I think you're SLE too. Honestly.

**Joy** · 01-01-2010, 06:30 AM

Thanks. (: I appreciate the input.

I'm still not sure, but there's a lot that makes sense. I think I've supressed my Se to a large extent though... I need to let myself go and do what feels natural. I think starting school at the end of January may help me with this.

**Hot Scalding Gayser** · 01-01-2010, 09:06 AM

Basically, my physical comfort and security mean less to me than most other things. Pain and discomfort are things to be subordinated to my will.

No. That relates to your ENTj Si-polr and not to your Se-ego. Which doesn't exist, because you are not SLE. You are fragmenting things too much Joy which is the same mistake I see a lot of people doing lately. The general make-up, something about who you are as a whole just isn't SLE. And you can fan-wank the functions to mean anything you want, but I just proved to you that what you think is true is just another area of the psyche and not what you are really calling it.

**Joy** · 01-01-2010, 06:48 PM

I wasn't talking about Si or Se. I was talking about my enneagram stackings. (I do think this could be a Si ignoring thing though.)

**Joy** · 01-03-2010, 04:56 AM

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that I'm most likely SLE.

Fe > Fi valuing. And horrible at both of them.

**Gilly** · 12-23-2009, 09:34 PM

Herzy returns to lay some truth on Joy.

**Ezra** · 12-25-2009, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Gilly

Herzy returns to lay some truth on Joy.

"lay some truth"! Classic. Love it.

**tcaudilllg** · 12-27-2009, 02:22 AM

Joy, if you are SLE then you must fear criticism over the choices you make and/or advocate.

**Joy** · 12-27-2009, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

Joy, if you are SLE then you must fear criticism over the choices you make and/or advocate.

Why's that?

**tcaudilllg** · 12-27-2009, 06:15 PM

See Eglit. Beta NF is a 1d function for SLE, and 1d functions have been associated with phobias.

Particular the 5th.

**Joy** · 12-25-2009, 12:57 AM

I'm becoming more and more convinced that I'm SLE. Lately I've been finding myself acting differently, and it's been really freeing. Whateva.

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