Gul's Gul and Isha's typing thread

[Creepy-male]

Made entirely without her consent, naturally

I thought I'd cash in on the latest frenzy of "type-me" threads.

So, there are three things to do here: Gul's type, Isha's type, Gul and Isha's intertype (are you sold on us being !!EPIC DUALZ!!? Maybe you just take our self-typings for granted and accept Duality as following from that? Maybe you have an opinion on our intertype that contradicts our self-typings? ).

Here are some prospective options to get you started. Perhaps you might want to invalidate some of them? Give your arguments for some of them? Give an option I didn't list? Shoot!

Options for Gul: ILE, IEE, SEI, ESE
Options for Isha: SLI, LII, EII

Alright peeps. You have free reign now. Go go go!

[Gilly]

Gul: SEI
Isha: LII

*wipes hands*

[Creepy-male]

Gul: SEI
Isha: LII

*wipes hands*

As always, I am ever-interested in your opinion. Care to elaborate? I'm also interested in why you think we're Activators.

Though I guess if people say we have great chemistry, a catalytic relationship would make sense. Lolpuns.

[Gilly]

It's just my separate impressions of each of you. I have always thought of Isha as providing me with Ti, in one fashion or another, and I think Se PoLR makes sense for her. I think SEI is the obvious type for you due to your obvious phlegmatic nature punctuated by hyperactivity and overt expressiveness. You're both 9w1, you being so/sx and Isha being sp/sx.

[Creepy-male]

I have always thought of Isha as providing me with Ti, in one fashion or another, and I think Se PoLR makes sense for her.

Yes, Isha has commented similarly that you think what she says is golden.

Why do you think Se PoLR makes sense?

I think SEI is the obvious type for you due to your obvious phlegmatic nature punctuated by hyperactivity and overt expressiveness. You're both 9w1, you being so/sx and Isha being sp/sx.

Interesting. While being somewhat phlegmatic is something that I identify with internally, I think a lot of people would perhaps reverse the two: I'm hyperactive and very expressive with still periods of listlessness. Much earlier on, Isha even commented that I had a lot of energy that was very hard to keep up with. I'm also interested in what gives you this impression of me.

Also, I have a vague impression of her as being sp/so. Why do you think sp/sx? Enneagram stackings are admittedly an area of weakness for me.

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Anyway, so you don't feel neglected, polikujm (I really love typing your name, btw... polikujmpolikujmpolikujm)...

I think you may be taking intertype relations too seriously in the sense that you two are duals, and forgetting that ILEs and ILIs can be pretty easygoing and likable people, and may like each others company: IPs like EPs, both are irrational, have similar interests. More notably an ILE/ILI relation is something I have certainly witnessed with others. It's not incredibly classic, but viable. A relation of mine, that is more activating than interest built is that of ILI-SLE, where I think ILI-ILE relation would be better for interesting discussions and a learning experience.

I think shared interests are kind of apart from type, actually, but these is a good point; Isha and I do have a whole heap of them. Of interest to Gilly is no doubt the fact the she's actually much more able to readily quantify what these are, actually. Perhaps evidence that she is the one with the Ne, not me.

[717495]

I think shared interests are kind of apart from type, actually, but these is a good point; Isha and I do have a whole heap of them.

Right, which is why an ILE-ILI relation would look fairly great, compared to one where interests and philosophy were different. In a sense, you two share similar themes. It's nothing like SEI with LII if you ask me. But to explain the depth of your relationship in a Socionics way would be rather limiting, not that many elements couldn't be elucidated upon. That is in fact what Socionics tries to encapture, and I think it does here, just in a less conspicuous sense than traditional one way logic.

Perhaps evidence that she is the one with the Ne, not me.

Like I said, I have reason to see you as the Ne dominant type, sort of a benchmark. And thanks about the name. I invented it so that people would cherish me.

[717495]

Gul, you are kind of a benchmark for Ne dominant. I think you're an ILE, you seem much more logical than ethical (in the same sense that I seem more logical than ethical), and you tend to favor Ti thinking, Fe spirit, it certainly comes off that way in your videos, and I think you're a pretty cool person. ILEs and ILIs have a way of getting along well together, depending on who it is. Your Fe is light, something I could slightly enjoy if I were in the mood. I don't have a close ILE friend, but I imagine they would be fun to hang out with, again depending on who it is. Isha might very well be ILI instead of SLI. I believe her to be Te creative simply because that is what I get from her, but I guess I could reinvestigate my past reasoning to explain it to you.

I think you may be taking intertype relations too seriously in the sense that you two are duals, and forgetting that ILEs and ILIs can be pretty easygoing and likable people, and may like each others company: IPs like EPs, both are irrational, have similar interests. More notably an ILE/ILI relation is something I have certainly witnessed with others. It's not incredibly classic, but viable. A relation of mine, that is more activating than interest built is that of ILI-SLE, where I think ILI-ILE relation would be better for interesting discussions and a learning experience.

[Krig the Viking]

I think IEE is so self-evident for Gul, that I'm not even interested in debating it.

I don't know Isha as well, but I do get a lot of Ti from her. I don't know if that's just SLI's Demonstrative Ti, or a sign of LII. Some Supervision relationships can be quite close, if the subtypes are right. I'm actually good friends with an IEE in Real Life myself.

[Creepy-male]

Really? I don't know Isha very well so I can't really say firsthand...but just this morning when you were trying to make me feel better you said what you tried worked on her. It didn't work on me, remember? You could chalk it up to non-socionics differences of course--I was just surprised to see it make the list.

This is an excellent point.

Also, Gul and Isha mesh as Gul and Isha do, regardless of their duality or not. Like peanut butter and jelly. That's what I think at least--I'm less concerned with whatever typings you two actually are. I find that the fact that you go together so well is more important, imo. But perhaps it's out of place in this thread...

But it's more fun to attribute everything to Socionics! And, I think that we get on so well is probably useful evidence for figuring out our intertype.

I think IEE is so self-evident for Gul, that I'm not even interested in debating it.

BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO FIGHT A WAR FOR IT?

I don't know Isha as well, but I do get a lot of Ti from her. I don't know if that's just SLI's Demonstrative Ti, or a sign of LII. Some Supervision relationships can be quite close, if the subtypes are right. I'm actually good friends with an IEE in Real Life myself.

Maybe Demonstrative? She commented that a lot of our early Socionics discussions were telling me I was wrong, focusing on the wrong things, and just generally unmuddling me after Brilliand's corrupting influence

Nowadays, I'm not sure? I don't think I talk about theoretical stuff with her all that often, but she apparently notices what we talk about much more easily than me, so I shall confer with her.

Anyway, it's difficult. I can compare Gul and Isha's relationship to Gul and LII friends' relationship, but also to Gul and Dave (SLI)'s relationship.

Though, I will comment, she doesn't strike me as being Intuitive in the least, and I have reservations about IJ temperament. I might flesh this out later.

[Krig the Viking]

BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO FIGHT A WAR FOR IT?

TO THE DEATH!!! GRAAAAGH!!!1!1!7

Maybe Demonstrative? She commented that a lot of our early Socionics discussions were telling me I was wrong, focusing on the wrong things, and just generally unmuddling me after Brilliand's corrupting influence

Nowadays, I'm not sure? I don't think I talk about theoretical stuff with her all that often, but she apparently notices what we talk about much more easily than me, so I shall confer with her.

Anyway, it's difficult. I can compare Gul and Isha's relationship to Gul and LII friends' relationship, but also to Gul and Dave (SLI)'s relationship.

Though, I will comment, she doesn't strike me as being Intuitive in the least, and I have reservations about IJ temperament. I might flesh this out later.

I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR.... *ahem*, sorry. I'm interested to hear what you conclude.

[electric sheep]

I think I supervise you like crazy, and you still haven't given me a compelling reason for being 9w1. IEE it is.

[Creepy-male]

I think I supervise you like crazy, and you still haven't given me a compelling reason for being 9w1. IEE it is.

You basically opened by telling me it wasn't even worth discussing with you, unless I misunderstood?

"There isn't some deep hidden thing about you that would totally change what type you are if I saw it--it just doesn't work like that."

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, how do you see yourself supervising me?

[717495]

I think I supervise you like crazy, and you still haven't given me a compelling reason for being 9w1. IEE it is.

Yeah, actually you do seem easily supervised by LIIs.

[electric sheep]

or rather, why you can't be a 7. No compelling reason for that.

You can still refute the possibility of being a 7, even though you act a hell of a lot like one.
and I'm not the only one who thinks so:

[12/14/2009 8:08:17 PM] Aleesha: but I think you have too much crazy energy for SEI
[12/14/2009 8:19:40 PM] Aleesha: and you freely talk about your emotions
[12/14/2009 8:19:43 PM] Aleesha: usually your positive ones
[12/14/2009 8:19:52 PM] Aleesha: you tend to try to avoid talking about the negative one