Conflict relations: ENTp Tom Green vs ISFj

[Gilly]

I doubt this guy represents anything "Fi dominant." His whole persona is completely irrational and with disregard to what Fi is.

Oh? And what do you think "Fi is?"

It's pretty easy not to be an Alpha. Why should I be one? Would it make you feel better in your perception of how they're supposed to be?

No, but it would be correct.

[717495]

No, but it would be correct.

It is false. Probably due to a couple of factors, those likely being that you don't know me very well, but have weak impressions about me that you've been sorting through, and because your Socionics understanding seems to differ from the classical writing. But the second part is not at all mysterious. I think many people who don't know me very well or have a questionable understanding of Socionics, typically how they come around this forum, might think I'm an ILE. This is not an absurd suggestion for a limited internet impression.

[Gilly]

It is false. Probably due to a couple of factors, those likely being that you don't know me very well, but have weak impressions about me that you've been sorting through, and because your Socionics understanding seems to differ from the classical writing. But the second part is not at all mysterious. I think many people who don't know me very well or have a questionable understanding of Socionics, typically how they come around this forum, might think I'm an ILE. This is not an absurd suggestion for a limited internet impression.

Hey, wanna answer my actual question so I can derive great pleasure from mocking you?

Please?

[Gilly]

Clay could be SEE, I suppose, but certainly never SLE. Personally I think he seems rational.

[Gilly]

Actually on second thought, I think there is a great comparison to be had between Clay and Sylvester Stallone. So maybe Se-SEE is the better bet.

[JuJu]

For a Se-ESTp vs. Se-ESFp comparison:

Mike Tyson, Se-ESTp


Johnny Knoxville, Se-ESTp:


vs.

Sylvester Stallone


David Lee Roth (interview starts at 1:00, being interviewed by his dual, who's lovin' it)

[silverchris9]

...maybe SEE. ISFj would be my guess as well, though. They are working things for comedy, but they don't get each other. You can tell that they don't get each other, because every time Tom Green goes for the sort of humor he would default to, he gets rejected, and so he has to act in a way that's outside of his comfort zone. Even if they are both acting for comedy's sake, they're doing so in incompatible ways. Comedians have to "read" or "flow" with each other, and they are totally out of sync in that regard. Tom Green just looks confused the whole interview, which is not what I would expect from SLE-ILE interactions. It seems to me that that guy is projecting something like Se very heavily, but it doesn't feel the same as SLE Se to my mind.

I don't get an SLE vibe from him. It could be that he is a "kind" of SLE that I don't have experience with/understanding of. But yeah, I don't get SLE from him.

"I don't care if you hit me... Don't fuckin' lie to me."

How does this convey Se? (Genuine curiosity here). I felt like the way he kept emphasizing "out of line" and such seemed Fi, but I could be off there. I'd like your opinion on that, Juju.

Also, I love Charlie Rose! I can totally buy ILI for him. I've watched all of his interviews with Harold Bloom, and they seem like the ILI-IEI interactions between me and my ILI friends. The dumb grin Charlie Rose has on his face in the David Lee Roth interview is hilarious.

[crazedrat]

he's a static type. he's rational he's exactly like allie. he's ISFj. .