Just because Gilly has conflicts with Ryu, that doesn't exclude him from Delta; what is possibly perceived as Fe valuing may actually be just what Airborne is like, another LSE "type" that really likes emotional people.Originally Posted by Mariella
Just because Gilly has conflicts with Ryu, that doesn't exclude him from Delta; what is possibly perceived as Fe valuing may actually be just what Airborne is like, another LSE "type" that really likes emotional people.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Well, first, Gilly knows MUCH MUCH more about Socionics than you do, and I trust what he says about his type about a trillion percent more than what you say about his type, but even beyond that if you think he has weak and devalued Fe you either have never read anythign he's written or interacted with him.
I think I have a pretty good argument just from one post he made many years ago. Maybe I shouldn't tell you this because now you will start to criticize me for seeing "trivialities"/ LOL So, try not to carry this converstion here any further and leave it to me (with a little trust I hope) Thanks
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
If it is based on one post, even from yesterday, it is by definition a bad argument. If you had to dig back many years to find a post that backed up what you want, it's an even worse argument.
I am telling you plainly that you are wrong about Gilly's type. You just are. Nothing can make him have weak and devalued Fe. It just isn't so.
Read the rest of my post please and have a little trust in me. Thanks. It will give you good practice for when your kids grow up and you have to let them fly away sometimes.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
It has nothing to do with trust. He simply is not LSE. I've talked to him here a lot longer than you. Maybe you should trust me. That is not his type. If anyone has ever valued Fe, it's Gilly.
We're going on a ride............
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
LOL I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING.
It will just be my fun project, it's nothing serious to argue about...just smile and try to loosen up and have a little
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Well if we do discuss it more, it won't be here. I started a post in What's My Type, as I agree that is the place for that kind of thing, not this post, and not really even this subforum.
Or they could indeed be alike in valuing Fe. It's funny how you speak of possibilities yet refuse to consider them.
You know, today, I woke up to a very foggy day, which is sort of not usual and maybe not too unusual for LA, but what I really liked about today was that the air was warmer then other days, but not too warm and that I woke up at 6 am, which is a bit longer then I usually do and was able to get out the door and walk around and hear the pretty song of the birds was really refreshing.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
which country are you from Aiss?
I get a dark vibe but at the same time it teases me, looking deeply int you.
its like a flertation where there is no flertation. i want to sex you. lol.
Why do you answer like this? What is your reasoning? How are you thinking she'll respond? If we can understand why you talk about sex at inappropriate times, whether it's just bad timing or if you're doing it to get a response, like if you like the idea of shocking her or something, that might help in figuring out your type.
Well, might as well talk about it here... I'm working on an EII-LSE thread, where I'm going to be writing a big post (this does not happen frequently). The reason why I'm doing this is because:
1)the articles/forum do not address certain issues and situations that come up, and I just thought of bringing them up (I have time also)
2) I disagree with some simplifications of the interaction that I find here.
3) A way to constructively deal with frustration.
4) What might be the real reason, which is that I just feel like doing it.
I'm wondering if there is something that the LSEs here or anybody would be interested in me addressing from my pov. I don't usually focus this much on writing, so it's good to make it count.
THANK YOU YOU ARE SO SWEET MARIELLA.
I WILL ELABORATE A RESPONSE.
THANK YOU YOU ARE SO SWEET MARIELLA.
I WILL ELABORATE A RESPONSE.
Have you posted any photo's? I bet you're really cute with pretty lips.
IEE-Ne
YES, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?
I summe you´re french
because i´m desendant of french
and
although I dont like it
I speak french and act somewhat frenchish though I see that french don´t go anywhere, theyr´pe jsut fascinated with material life.
Weird that someone would do that. Reading this makes me put on my detective hat on. It's unusual to just vandalize a car without stealing something...Early yesterday morning my mother's car got vandalized - one of the windows was completely broken out and the brand logo thing on the back was broken off, but nothing was stolen. She had it up for a fundraiser auction, too, which makes this especially hard. And she'd just spent a couple hours the day before washing it and making it all nice. It makes me sad that people would do things like this.
just a hunch.
IEE-Ne
eh, not getting along with someone doesn't necessarily mean they're not in your quadra, especially if the reasons are non Socionics related.
fwiw, I find that Betas tend to clash more with each other than they do with other quadras
btw from what I've seen Ezra, along with Juju, are probably the least biased people with their typings, as in I haven't seen them type someone based on how much they like them but the elements they see. So I second Mariella in that Ezra may be able to help distinguish if you're a Beta or not
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
inb4 "Maritsa is EIE, hypochondriac social role"
Well, might as well talk about it here... I'm working on an EII-LSE thread, where I'm going to be writing a big post (this does not happen frequently). The reason why I'm doing this is because:
1)the articles/forum do not address certain issues and situations that come up, and I just thought of bringing them up (I have time also)
2) I disagree with some simplifications of the interaction that I find here.
3) A way to constructively deal with frustration.
4) What might be the real reason, which is that I just feel like doing it
I'm wondering if there is something that the LSEs here or anybody would be interested in me addressing from my pov. I don't usually focus this much on writing, so it's good to make it count.
Alright Lobo...if you're still working on such a thread, then I was curious about any further insight you had on the following....(and forgive me if this has already been discussed in-depth seeing as the thread I'm taking this from is from '07)
I've got a few LSE girls I work with whom I've noticed this behavior from as well (I consider myself EII). My immediate supervisor is one of these women actually. As a brief example of such behavior (seeing as I'm typing this up fast before bed, heh). It's almost like I've noticed her in a trance, hypnotic state for a brief moment at times, heh....hard to describe really. I dunno...it's like she's usually hyper-aware and focused on the task at hand and yet I get this calm-at-ease vibe from her when she's around me sometimes. She'll make minor hiccups and not realize it....like tell me the wrong production numbers when the paper is right in front of her face
duals or activity partners?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
"At first glance it seems Stirlitz joker and gay."
Discuss
(source here) Duale Stirlitz - Dostoevsky
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
lol Another reason why we shouldn't bother with translation descriptions, or type descriptions at all.
It kind of makes me picture Joker from the Dark Knight batman being excessively fruity or something.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
LOL - HAHAhAhahahahahahahahahahah
yeah seems right to say on many levels
The well groomed look to some LSE types, might confuse women into thinking that they take care of themselves way too much to be a "man". You know, lots of women like dirty, rugged look on men, who don't complain about the stain they got from spilling something on their shirt...lol
And that I've noticed LSE say "that's gay" to things that are out of place. So two angles from my perspective, looks and how they comment on things.
Also on anther angle, yeah LSE, I've noticed, are quite light hearted when they are not in a bad mood.
I'm gonna be laughing about this all day...it's so clean, so funny, SOOOO LSE!
First, please don't refer to "gotta few girls" like that...unless you want me to get really upset.
I've got a few LSE girls I work with whom I've noticed this behavior from as well (I consider myself EII). My immediate supervisor is one of these women actually. As a brief example of such behavior (seeing as I'm typing this up fast before bed, heh
Second, Se PoLR, missing things in front of us is not uncommon. LSE don't make minor hicups easily so the second point refers to possible Se PoLR.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 06-11-2010 at 05:54 PM.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
So i gather you dont think ryu is SLI anymore?
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Hey, I stopped working on it, my interests changedAlright Lobo...if you're still working on such a thread, then I was curious about any further insight you had on the following....(and forgive me if this has already been discussed in-depth seeing as the thread I'm taking this from is from '07
No arguments here please.So i gather you dont think ryu is SLI anymore?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Um i'm not arguing. . .I'm asking. I need a little consistency in my life.
Otherwise i will think you're just trying to manipulate.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Then ask in private.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You're one to talk. I can ask wherever i want. you never said that was secret info.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I couldn't figure out which was which because I didn't really have time to watch the whole thing...but the dancer is definitely SLI :wink: Is that Turbo?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa's bullying me again, someone please tell her to stop!
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Whatever
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Lobo sent me that.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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