We could definitely stand to have some more ESFps, they tend to be really cool people. Maybe one or two more ESTjs, we don't need many but it's nice to know they're there to keep things in order. I still think we could stand to lose six or seven ENFps, and the same goes for INTjs.
Yup. One representative is never enough. Ideally, we'd have 100 of each type. That's the minimum sample number. Then we could have hundreds of accurate polls and gather so many statistics and produce so much data...Originally Posted by Arctures
Well we already produce a ton of data, but it's never particularly accurate lol. It would be good to have reliable sample data though, so things can actually be learnedYup. One representative is never enough. Ideally, we'd have 100 of each type. That's the minimum sample number. Then we could have hundreds of accurate polls and gather so many statistics and produce so much data...
If anyone has seen the movie "Beyond Borders",
when the doctor is talking about why he didn't call Angelina Jolie's character by her name in the Ethiopia camp, it's somewhat related to this...
(can't find the exact scene)I've had mixed feelings about some things. It's strange because I'm very sure about how I feel about other people, and if I like someone and like them enough to let the feeling grow, it can become very strong. And yet, when I'm not sure about someone, it makes it very difficult to deal with my own feelings. A lot of LSEs, and delta STs in general, may apply the strategy of "trying to not get to close so as to avoid having to lose someone", especially if they have some relational scar tissue.
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What about "fearing that getting too close will scare someone away?" I've had that thought about some friendships. The "trying to not get to close so as to avoid having to lose someone" concept, though, I'm not sure about. I've tried it, but it doesn't seem that important to me, maybe because I have no relational scar tissue.
Why would getting close to someone scare them away? I *think* I get that but I'm not really sure what it means. It doesn't seem to be something that I relate to personally (as in i don't often feel that feeling), but I know other people have those feelings.
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Hmm...it's more like the 'take it slow' concept. If I suddenly tried to be best friends with some girl, she'd probably freak out.
Oh, yeah, I definitely relate to that. I think I don't even try to dictate things like that, other than making suggestions to do things or showing interest in doing things together - I just let the other person 'decide' what kind of relationship we have.
Which is harder if you like the person a lot, mhm.
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I agree. Or if you don't care for the person. (I had a boring best friend for six years.) Or if the other person does the same thing. That's happened to me.
What do you mean by boring?
She was nice, but she was a 3/4-wit and very shy. She would never start a conversation, so I pretty much just entertained her.
Why did you stop being best friends if I may ask?
She moved away.
it's rather strange when you understand a relationship and how its working better than an 'ethical type'. Even if only in mechanical terms, as per 'why' someone is doing something. It's sort of uncomfortable to watch, as someone is being confronted with new data that they don't really understand but it makes sense, and checking it against a form of understanding they are confident in - their sense of relation to the person.
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So it's almost February. How was your January ?
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Average/bad.
Can't wait for February though. People, uni, Isha. Six months of doing nothing is bad. You go crazy.
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I am currently suffering life without my macbook. I think the hard drive has died again. It's going in to the Apple store later today to find out for sure. *sigh* I think I must have got a lemon, because this'll be at least my third suicidal hard drive, and it's not like I abuse the thing. Fortunately it seems the Apple tech support people are beginning to think the same (that it's overall somehow defective), as I heard at least two of them mention something about taking this to "higher levels" and "more comprehensive replacement" if it is indeed another hard drive failure. So, who knows, maybe I'll end up with a whole new computer. But, regardless, I'm still going through withdrawals.
Happily my brother has an iMac, so I can get my fixes (and super necessary work done) when he's not using it. And, I made a time machine backup right before it started giving me problems, so at least I'll have most of my data in one piece. And, yet another plus, now I have more of a reason to focus on other non-computer-related things that need doing, like cleaning and organizing. Silver linings, silver linings...
Anyway, thanks for listening(/reading). I needed someone to express myself to, and this thread seemed a reasonable place.
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Good luck with that, Minde.
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It was apparently a memory stick not the hard drive that was causing the kernel panic. I think they were just going to give me a replacement for that part, but when I asked the guy helping me if that still fell under the hardware category (referring to what the tech support people had said before about all the problems I've had, not just with hard drives), he went to the back to talk with his manager. When he came back a minute later, he paraphrased what the manager said, "I'm getting tired just listening to the list of things she's had to fix, much less having to actually bring it in for all that. Give her a new one."
I could get into the really technical details, but basically they're giving me a brand new computer that's one level up from what I have now for free and letting me pay the difference for any extras, like more memory and three more years of extended warranty. I seriously could not have hoped for a better result, barring winning the lottery or something. Apple gets some major points from me for this (though it's not like they really needed them - I already really like their products and service).
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
~good deal~
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You should put *shades* between those two lines. That's how I imagined you saying it in my head.
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Yeah so, this ESE I work with is really, really jittery, and kind of speaks like a bird chirps. What do suggestions do you have for getting her to calm down some?
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All the time, or just more recently?
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She is jittery in terms of her speech. I think more so when she's talking in public or to important people, a sort of performance anxiety thing, or concerned that she's not able to make someone happy or perhaps too nervous about making a good impression, or being competent.
She's been like this as long as I've known her, almost a year now.
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Fight Club
- beta.
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If she's like that all the time then the chances of "fixing" her are a lot lower and perhaps not advisable. And even if she could be "fixed", it'd probably be a long-term thing, not quickly or easily done.
However, if she seems to not like being like that (IOW, open to change) then one option would be to try to figure out what the underlying reason is for her nervousness and try to address that.
For example, if she's giving a presentation, maybe talk with her ahead of time to do a run through of it. You'd have to focus on not doing the talking, though, and just ask unobtrusive guiding questions. It's like running a comb through hair, with you as the comb and her doing the combing, allowing her thoughts to get pre-smoothed and in order. The key would be to let her be at her talk comfort level but not let her thoughts get away from where they need to be. Eh, I don't know if that makes sense or not. I'd say pretend to be me talking with you, but you might end up focussing on the wrong things so don't do that.
The point is, if her thoughts and emotions can become smoother and more ordered so will her speech and mannerisms. Since duals are good at providing balance (which would probably help her), perhaps you can pretend to be an INTj, or even an INFj.
If she's nervous out of a sense of inadequacy, find ways to affirm her. I personally would say the best way is to do that indirectly, since too much verbal affirmation might seem either fake/unbelievable or become white noise.
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good stuff, esp the comb analogy.
I've appreciated it when you've helped me to comb my thoughts, that's for sure.
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Charlie from Two and a Half Men strikes me as some sort of delta ST... maybe 9w8?
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What is with the middles of months and being the peak of sucking? It also doesn't help that I'm running on coffee deliberately as an act of random and petty indulgence for the hell of it, making me tired and emotional.
Don't know, but the other guy seems EII. I haven't watched that many episodes really. I bet you got disappointed and lost some interest in that show when the kid grew up... ().
A few EIIs are pushing Bach on me lately (the classical composer).
I'd like to see people become hustlers of classical music.
"Hey man, you want some Beethoven? this is good shit, man..."
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I like the classics, but they can be distracting. I don't understand how people can study with such complex melodic patterns in the background.
I wonder if that whole "it makes you smarter / it's good to study with" thing is a bit ethnocentric; does classical music from other parts of the world? Or does it just sort of stir up feelings of Ivy League schools and British Elites and European Grandeur, etc.
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My former MacBook (RIP):
The new replacement MacBook Pro:
Because sometimes I like illustrating my stories.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
For the price of the MacBook Pro, you can get an HP or a Toshiba that will perform 3 times better, in almost every aspect. And have more features, like blue-ray drive for instance.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Not counting the extra memory, hard drive space, and extended warranty that I got for it, this MacBook Pro was free for me. Apple gave it to me in return for my old MacBook which had been having chronic hardware problems.
But, regardless of the excellent cost of this one (practically free!), I like Macs and it's really no use arguing with me.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
(I wouldn't advise arguing with Minde about Macs, myself)But, regardless of the excellent cost of this one (practically free!), I like Macs and it's really no use arguing with me.
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dude i got some fresh chopin in my trunk
meet me at the burger king parking lot in an hour if you're in
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