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[Minde]

Ugh, I lost 5 pounds over the holidays. I'm verging on unhealthy if I go much lower. I thought all the holiday foods and treats were supposed to fatten people up?

I need to find practical ways of incorporating more food into my life and routines.

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[Beautiful sky]

Ugh, I lost 5 pounds over the holidays. I'm verging on unhealthy if I go much lower. I thought all the holiday foods and treats were supposed to fatten people up?

I need to find practical ways of incorporating more food into my life and routines.



*waves*

I'm sorry, I don't give out sympathy to people who realize something about themselves and don't fix the problem, rationally and consciously. Obviously whatever you've got going on is in the subconscious.

You see, I've always had the problem of not being able to gain weight, which I've wanted to, but I actually ate (a lot) to try to gain weight and then when I couldn't, that's when I realized that it wasn't worth trying because my metabolism was very high and there was nothing unhealthy about me. So, I stopped and resumed a healthy diet, because I'm a positivist type and don't get down on myself for silly things, and resumed a healthy diet. That is rational thinking.

And, bottom line, EII don't do sympathy. That's in the terrain of

[Radio]

I'm sorry, I don't give out sympathy to people who realize something about themselves and don't fix the problem, rationally and consciously. Obviously whatever you've got going on is in the subconscious.

You see, I've always had the problem of not being able to gain weight, which I've wanted to, but I actually ate (a lot) to try to gain weight and then when I couldn't, that's when I realized that it wasn't worth trying because my metabolism was very high and there was nothing unhealthy about me. So, I stopped and resumed a healthy diet, because I'm a positivist type and don't get down on myself for silly things, and resumed a healthy diet. That is rational thinking.

And, bottom line, EII don't do sympathy. That's in the terrain of

how about you act like a decent human being and stop using your type as an excuse for being a jerk

[Beautiful sky]

I sit quietly on the couch, thinking, and abstracting feelings from the many visions and situations I encounter, as my boyfriend chatters away, speaking about all kinds of things, work, his relationship with his family, movies, his connections on facebook. I listen to a man who has thoughts that are on his lips, who opens up to me about how he feels about people. I listen and I make out those trends, those situations which shift his emotions to the extremes, where the tone of his voice becomes so passionate, emotional. I read him and interpret these things, these chatters. I say a few things to him, in the fashion of, "honey, you need to be content with yourself as to not bring or expect to bring others in the same expectations of yourself and what you hold for people." He's a perfectionist LSE, who expects that others will take as much care with him as he does with them once he's decided to do things for them. "So, you think this is a problem I have of myself," he says, I say "yes" and explain why. He says, "because I understand it doesn't mean I like it or that it's right." I understand. He feels that sometimes I can justify any problem away with empathizing with the other side; he once told me that if faced with someone with a gun in their hand, I would probably say, "well, it may have been because he/she was having a tough day." Instead of just seeing it like the general society sees the person, as a lunatic who needs to be locked away.

I say things to him which quiet the external emotional reactions, things which present the other side of thought, thought that is repressed when feeling process evaluates an external situation. He calms down. He's fire sometimes. I have begun to realize what it means to be me in our dual pair and how much this lovely chatter helps him and me. I sit there and I listen to a man who articulates words so impeccably, carefully, clearly, with well thought out intentions and this extravert helps me find words to express myself where before they were thought and feelings in the inner world and existed in emotion where expression was bleak and meager. This chatter that seems to fill the void.

I've lived with my boyfriend for 5 months now and I've never felt better, never felt more like it is ok to be me to sit here on the couch and reflect, sulk in my world and now, that this quiet introvert can find words that make it easier for her to express her emotions and not think of her own emotions because she has no choice but to listen and figure out the chatter of an extraverted man.


He says it's his job to be the extravert, to chatter and he takes up that light and wouldn't want me to be any other way.

[Beautiful sky]

Radio. What defines a "decent human being in that context?" Someone who just pours out sympathy or just ignores it if they don't have something "nice" to say? You think that is everyday common sense? You think it's emotionally ok for someone to mope at you that they are being unhealthy just to solicit sympathy? Do you think that is emotionally healthy for other people to hear? Is it not being a "jerk" thing in intentionally soliciting sympathy? Why is that ok and not saying what you want and feel not ok?


I highly suggest you think before you speak.

[Beautiful sky]

"I've lost 5 lbs" -external fact
-emotional expression brought on by external situation; and an emotional expression by that fact

=Fe

She recognizes a situation and conveys emotion to it and it's something I ignore and I strive to calm down or stamp out.

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Fe

[Radio]

Radio. What defines a "decent human being in that context?" Someone who just pours out sympathy or just ignores it if they don't have something "nice" to say?

Those would be two out of many acceptable things you could have done in this situation, yes.

You think it's emotionally ok for someone to mope at you that they are being unhealthy just to solicit sympathy?

You are making a lot of assumptions about Minde here.

Do you think that is emotionally healthy for other people to hear?

Sure. Again, you are assuming there was any seriousness involved.

Is it not being a "jerk" thing in intentionally soliciting sympathy? Why is that ok and not saying what you want and feel not ok?

You can say what you want, in the right context, in a manner that is befitting for the situation.

I highly suggest you think before you speak.

I highly suggest you act less like an annoying spam-bot and more like an actual person.

[Beautiful sky]

Actually people create actual words, so I guess I must be an actual person. I don't type you EII.

[Korpsy Knievel]

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[Absurd]

Actually people create actual words, so I guess I must be an actual person. I don't type you EII.

Go back to gamma you emo.

[Beautiful sky]

what?

[Korpsy Knievel]

what?

Just taking a few measurements. Go ahead and post the next installment of your memoir. I'll tabulate your score a little more quietly.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Ugh, I lost 5 pounds over the holidays. I'm verging on unhealthy if I go much lower. I thought all the holiday foods and treats were supposed to fatten people up?

I need to find practical ways of incorporating more food into my life and routines.

Do you have a doctor or nutritionist you could talk to? There's always the internet as well, but that's not always quite so credible.

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My computer came in! My CPU, really. It's a nice little creature; it boots up quickly, runs quietly, and has given me little trouble so far. Unfortunately, the graphics card sucks, so I can't play LotRO on it. I can play my less taxing games, though, and the sound card seems decent. My mother gave me a 17" monitor, which is pretty decent, even if fairly old. I do regret the lack of nice speakers (the ones in my monitor aren't too bad) but I generally use headphones anyway.

This has also been my first week of classes, but I'll reflect on that another time. It's nice to be back out on my own.

[Minde]

how about you act like a decent human being and stop using your type as an excuse for being a jerk

Thanks, Radio, for standing up for me. Maritsa doesn't like me, and she snatches at whatever opportunity she can to make digs at me. I've disagreed with her and refused to do as she demands, therefore she feels the dislike and as a result doesn't believe I could be her "identical." In her world, identicals must always think and feel alike, in unison, always supporting each other no matter what. Well, EII identicals. Apparently she doesn't consistently apply that standard to other types.

Anyway, her behavior here is par for the course. It's too bad she's so absorbed in her personal vendetta to bother with empathy and actually caring about others.

"I've lost 5 lbs" -external fact
-emotional expression brought on by external situation; and an emotional expression by that fact

=Fe

She recognizes a situation and conveys emotion to it and it's something I ignore and I strive to calm down or stamp out.

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Fe

Funny, I remember these posts from awhile back:

I'm always supporting a lost cause, it seems.

I meant about 1. not supporting extraverts in blocking people 2. by not wearing dyed cotton 3. by promoting forgiveness 4. championing coal free environmental technologies. It goes on.

No one seems to support me...

Let's see... Fact followed by emotional expression. Seeking of sympathy, followed by signs of gratitude when others did provide sympathy.


For the record, I wasn't actually seeking sympathy. It was an expression of my internal feelings because I felt this was a safe enough place for such expression. It was a moment of emotional downness, which has passed. If anything, I'd welcome practical suggestions for how to reach my goal.

Do you have a doctor or nutritionist you could talk to? There's always the internet as well, but that's not always quite so credible.

I think I know more or less what I need to do, it's more a matter of incorporating it into my routines so it actually gets done. I'm overly busy with work and sometimes need help with "grounding" myself I guess. But maybe that's where a nutritionist might come in helpful, you're right.

My computer came in! My CPU, really. It's a nice little creature; it boots up quickly, runs quietly, and has given me little trouble so far. Unfortunately, the graphics card sucks, so I can't play LotRO on it. I can play my less taxing games, though, and the sound card seems decent. My mother gave me a 17" monitor, which is pretty decent, even if fairly old. I do regret the lack of nice speakers (the ones in my monitor aren't too bad) but I generally use headphones anyway.

This has also been my first week of classes, but I'll reflect on that another time. It's nice to be back out on my own.

Congrats on the new CPU. I'm using a pair of speakers my mother got at a thrift store for like $10 or something. They're actually pretty good!

[Absurd]

Hah. Even though it was linked before I didn't bother to read it. Now I did bother.

I really like the "his connections on facebook" line.

Ah yes, he is passionate and emo.

Don't make me date you.

[glam]

aww guys c'mon, she is just talking about something that makes her happy.

[Absurd]

aww guys c'mon, she is just talking about something that makes her happy.

Oh, okay.

[Beautiful sky]

Thanks Glam

It does make me happy to see that a man, by his words, can and has the potential to raise me out of my internal world just by what he does, which is talk.

[Beautiful sky]

You're creepy. I want someone to invent a function where you can't read my posts. H, please do that. I don't want Minde to EVER read my posts. It's so creepy to me that she keeps track of what I say and then she tailors or adapts herself to me.

Those are not facts, they are an expression of how I (the ego of me, the egocenter, the introvert) sees others. It's not a fact because people do support me dispite how I see them. You present information that is quantifiable ("5 lbs). My information is NOT therefore it isn't a FACT. You're just strange and very creepy. Where did you pull those posts out of? my log or your collection of my posts?

[Minde]

You're creepy.

Is this what they call an ad hominem?

I want someone to invent a function where you can't read my posts. H, please do that. I don't want Minde to EVER read my posts. It's so creepy to me that she keeps track of what I say and then she tailors or adapts herself to me.

How exactly do you think I am tailoring or adapting myself to you? Please answer this question.

Those are not facts, they are an expression of how I (the ego of me, the egocenter, the introvert) sees others. It's not a fact because people do support me dispite how I see them. You present information that is quantifiable ("5 lbs). My information is NOT therefore it isn't a FACT.

Good point. Silly me, why would EIIs ever use facts...

You're just strange and very creepy. Where did you pull those posts out of? my log or your collection of my posts?

I use this thing called "memory." It's pretty handy. I think I've seen you use one before, too, though perhaps a bit selectively at times. Most people seem to do that, too, at various times, so don't feel too bad. The selective memory, I mean. What you should feel bad about, though, is your attempts at persecuting me. You appear to me to lack feelings of kindness and consideration. You appear to only want to hurt me and push me down into disrepute, elevating yourself and proving how "right" you are. That's not very nice at all, not very loving or helpful or empathetic.

And, yes, I use the word "empathy" on purpose. You claim it, but I only see it occasionally. For example, here in this situation. Your first response to me was of attack, and you certainly do/did not understand and share in my feelings. I know this because you claimed to know my feelings but were wrong.

I hope that you can get past your negativity toward me (again) and that we can stop being so antagonistic. If it helps at all, please realize that you will not change my mind about my type. I know who and what I am.


My guess would be that what I say here will only anger you further and you'll just dig yourself deeper into your hole of resentment and dislike. I have hopes to the contrary, though. I think you'd be happier in the long run if you could find more ways of accepting other people and their differences, allowing for disagreement and not clinging to a need for control of others. It's hard to like me, from your perspective, I know. Believe it or not I can put myself into your shoes fairly often and can understand where you come from. That's part of why I maintain that you're EII.

But we are different. We are each individuals, unique, with our own special offerings to the world. And that's ok.

[Beautiful sky]

I will never post in this thread again. You are a lousy liar for calling it a Memory; like a person can possibly remember verbatim the posts (several) without reference. You ARE A LIAR AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

[Minde]

I will never post in this thread again. You are a lousy liar for calling it a Memory; like a person can possibly remember verbatim the posts (several) without reference. You ARE A LIAR AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

Who said anything about remembering verbatim?

You're making things up. And purposely trying to push my buttons. Where is your empathy now, hm? Where is your kindness? Where is your compassion? Where is your "let's look at it from their perspective" attitude? You're just being nasty now. And irrational.

Please calm down and think positively.

[Beautiful sky]

Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I'm always supporting a lost cause, it seems.
Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I meant about 1. not supporting extraverts in blocking people 2. by not wearing dyed cotton 3. by promoting forgiveness 4. championing coal free environmental technologies. It goes on.

No one seems to support me...

Where do the above posts come from?

[Beautiful sky]

Don't read my posts, you sick, twisted, individual.

[Minde]

Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I'm always supporting a lost cause, it seems.
Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I meant about 1. not supporting extraverts in blocking people 2. by not wearing dyed cotton 3. by promoting forgiveness 4. championing coal free environmental technologies. It goes on.

No one seems to support me...

Where do the above posts come from?

Lol, you replied. Shows how much we can trust your word....

To see where a quote comes from, I've discovered that clicking the little arrow icon next to the name of the quoted leads to the original post. Or you could flip a few pages back in the thread, if you want to do it the hard way.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I'm always supporting a lost cause, it seems.
Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I meant about 1. not supporting extraverts in blocking people 2. by not wearing dyed cotton 3. by promoting forgiveness 4. championing coal free environmental technologies. It goes on.

No one seems to support me...

Where do the above posts come from?

rofl this is hilarious...

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post803248
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post803254

[Minde]

Don't read my posts, you sick, twisted, individual.

Ah, look, more "empathy" and "kindness" and "compassion."

I say - you first. Stop reading mine. You've quoted me to make points far more often than I have. I actually would have a bit of catching up with you in that department.

[Beautiful sky]

I don't like you. I don't have to give any of those things to you because I disgust of you. Got that Fi judgment?

Fi-Feelings of like and dislike.

[Minde]

I don't like you. I don't have to give any of those things to you because I disgust of you. Got that Fi judgment?

Fi-Feelings of like and dislike.

Yep, I most certainly got it and understand. That's what I meant when I said you'd probably react this way, but that I hoped for your sake that you would let the dislike and anger and hatred go. It really will only end up hurting you, not me.

I don't especially like you, either. You've been very unkind. And you're often quite selfish. And unreasonable and irrational and harmful to others. But I see good in you, too. You are a human being who deserves second chances and the benefit of the doubt every so often.

[Beautiful sky]

I neither want nor do I need anything from you. Roll those things and stick them where your sun doesn't shine. Keepsake.

[Minde]

I neither want nor do I need anything from you. Roll those things and stick them where your sun doesn't shine. Keepsake.

What things?

[Absurd]

What things?

I think she means this:

Dating and Mating Coaching - $200 Internet dating;
$5000 personalized match search.

http://www.lifepowercoaching.blogspot.com/

[Korpsy Knievel]

Martisa, what do you charge for your services as an exorcist or a psychopomp?

[Pa3s]

Wow, Maritsa got totally owned in a battle of ethical types.

On a serious note, this thread let me lose the last bit of respect I had for Maritsa. I'm glad that Minde and most the other people who are bullied by her don't take it seriously because she's an awful person indeed.

I will never post in this thread again.

If only.

[Creepy-bg]

Maritsa, this is a public forum. We have no interest in, and aren't going to, stop Minde from reading and responding to your posts if that's what she wants to do. I see nothing out of line or strange in her responses to you.

As always, you are free to put her on ignore if what she says bothers you or creeps you out.

[Beautiful sky]

I'm taking that back and I'll post where ever I want but from now on I'm going to use "the popular Maritsa word of the month" just to see how malleable and adaptive Minde gets because I feel like she's glomming on to me, I don't know why. I say I'm empathetic and all of a suddenly Minde's become the user and practicer of empathy. Just so sorry she can't be herself, if she knows what herself is even. And, no I don't feel like this is happening because she claims to be the same type as me, I think this is happening because she feels like she has to fit in with this crowd. I don't have to fit in anywhere.

Word of the month Minde is going to be sulk. I'm using that everywhere so that you can copy it and use it too.

Let's all sulk in this moment everyone.

Sulk is going to be the EII word of the month.

[Kim]

You responded to Minde's post about her weight loss and provided unsolicited commentary. Why can't you just ignore her?

[Beautiful sky]

I'm just going to be me in a more blatantly obviously sulky way.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

You've gone back before and pulled quotes from Minde's posts to support your typing of her. How is that in any way different and therefore less creepy than what she's doing to you?