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Intuitive-logical-ekstravert
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
wow...hard to say. you have a lot of into there that seems to go in one direction, but then you go off in another direction. so i'm not sure. what type do you think you are? how old are you?
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
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we got another live one people!
welcome, btw, to this addictive place.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 07:57 PM.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
hurray!
The end is nigh
ENTp really?
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 07:58 PM.
Well you're def E7 and EXTp.
The end is nigh
You're definitely Alpha. Which Alpha type, I'm not quite sure, but I'd definitely lean toward ENTp. You do sort of remind me of an ISFp I knew as well, but in my experience they usually don't have the patience to post something like this.
ENTp>ISFp>INTj (I only put INTj because of slight evidence of Se PoLR, probably just Se role though, and there was more evidence of Fi PoLR.)
I agree with archon, probably E7, my guess is sx/sp, you sound impassioned. I felt a strong presence of Si and Ne in what you said (physical stuff, nature, etc for Si, general writing style and temperament seem more Ne,) so I'm conflicted about which subtype you might be, though I'd lean more toward Ne despite the heavy Si.
"I am very kind and I show my appreciation for people by doing stuff for them and/or helping them out. I can be very supportive. I feel a deep connection with nature and all sorts of animals. Not that gushy feely connection of people who just love cute animals such as bunnies and kittens but freaks out if they see a beetle. I genuinely have a deep love and respect for all animals to the point where I won’t squash spiders but carry them outside instead, they are after all just being their spidery selves. I have done this since I early childhood."
I show my appreciation in the same way. I used to carry spiders outside a lot, I don't have anything against them, but now I sometimes kill them what I feel lazy. I kill ants without much reservation, but that's because I see the hive as the life-form and the ants as extensions of it, so I'm not really hurting the hive. SX Egram might qualify this deeper connection.
"All trough life I have been told that I am “a brute”, meaning that I am too rough physically, I don’t sit down in a chair I drop myself into it, I walk heavily, I break stuff and I can be generally rather clumsy."
I've never been referred to as a brute, but that description describes my parents dismay at my abuse of furniture and and T-rexy walking.
"I have never felt very feminine or girly" me neither...
Arctures: delta just produces boring people
Arctures: but that's how we like it
vero: who needs a real person
vero: That's why I date an SLI
dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si
Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes
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Si is still a valued function, so it's not like you don't have it. Your writing just seems very stylistically Ne, and I'd expect more Ti-ish things if you were a Ti sub.
The energy level of your writing remind me of myself when I throw out a giant narcissistic block, as well another another 7-ENTp I know. I tested as an E5 and an INTj, if you have referenced tests at all.
Arctures: delta just produces boring people
Arctures: but that's how we like it
vero: who needs a real person
vero: That's why I date an SLI
dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si
Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes
"I have real issues with being told what to do. At the same time I have a very strong work ethic, I can’t do poor work, and I am a sucker for praise and admiration. I want to be great at what I do and I tend to overextend myself. I
I can be very charming and sell you on pretty much anything if I want to. I start a lot of projects but can be poor on follow through."
Se nonvalued (function 3 or 4) and clear signs of Ep temperament and Fe. You seem to value Si, so Si PoLR (ENTj) would be quite surprising as would Fe role.
The overemotional displays and dislike of physical intimacy with your parents could be the Fi PoLR. It's like having trouble judging boundaries and psychological distance. I am squarely about physical contact when I am unsure of the definition of my relationship. So if I get a hug from a girl, and I don't know what the deal is, I don't want to go all into it and make her think I'm squishing her tits and grinding her. Basically you don't know where others boundaries are. Your connection to nature seems very Si to me. Perhaps with the the emotional displays you're really unsure of how you should react; what would be appropriate.
Pretty much everything about you sounds ENTp. While I'm not a wild one, the so/sx and sx/so ENTp's can be.
Besides, glam doesn't have a spaceship as her avatar, are you really going to trust her?
Arctures: delta just produces boring people
Arctures: but that's how we like it
vero: who needs a real person
vero: That's why I date an SLI
dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si
Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes
ESTp/SLE seems very likely
I have to commend you, this was an amazingly well written, detailed, self description
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
I think some ST. NT's usually don't have their shit as together as you seem to have.
lol ohhhhh man.
one day.
The end is nigh
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 08:01 PM.
After you explained about the "touching" part I can see ENTp>ESTp, now.
That was one of the reasons I thought Si seeking sounded unlikely, since I thought it meant you didn't like to be coddled, but since you explained that it's because it causes physical discomfort it made a lot of sense
Anywho, welcome to the forum
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 08:01 PM.
You look like more of an INTj than an ENTp in those photos. My photos don't usually scream out ENTp either, I look pretty dim. Your writing seems way more ENTp. Don't talk extroversion literally, social extroversion is most certainly a skill. In socionics, it just means that you view the world through an extroverted function (Ne.) This threw me off as well, because I felt pretty certain the I connected with Ne, and Ne was my leading function, but I wasn't an extrovert by the normal definition. Also the Ep temperament, with it's energy fluctuations, sporadic interests, excitedly starting and not finishing, fit me pretty well.
I though the spaceship thing might be a guiding light. All ENTp's love spaceships, and we kill the ones who don't.
Arctures: delta just produces boring people
Arctures: but that's how we like it
vero: who needs a real person
vero: That's why I date an SLI
dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si
Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 08:02 PM.
You remind me of Joy a bit in your pictures, who self-types LIE.
Some information that might help you decide:
* http://www.socionics.us/works/semantics.shtml
(try also this one: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...overted_ethics)
The IM elements ("functions" from MBTI). This is what should be given #1 priority when trying to find a type. Not quadra values, not temperaments-- etc.
* You can also try these tests that work very well:
http://valaas.site90.net/socionics_test.html
http://www.socionic.qsh.eu/Test.aspx
* The descriptions present at this site are short, but IMO, pretty good. The VI pictures they contain are useful as well.
http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/index.html
* Another VI gallery:
ENTp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=31
ISFp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=32
ESFj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=33
INTj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=34
ENFj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=35
ISTj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=36
ESTp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=37
INFp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=38
ESFp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=39
INTp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=40
ENTj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=30
ISFj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=42
ESTj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=43
INFj http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=44
ENFp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=45
ISTp http://socioinfo.ru/index.php?option...ask=view&id=46
Let us know of your findings :wink:
I don't know what these people are smoking typing you as an Ej gamma NT. Your writing screams alpha NT, which means your either ILE or LII. The way you describe yourself as an alien tool is highly indicative of Ne, where Ni types like LIE's (if you want to use that notation) tend to be very grounded in the world. That sort of creative language and metaphor is quite atypical for them; they tend to be very direct (ILI's less so than LIE's from what I've seen.)
Your temperament sounds very Ep (ie ENTp aka ILE.) I'm a student, and if I'm interested in something I can usually learn it extremely quickly. On the other hand, if I'm bored with it, I'll pretty much disregard to the greatest degree possible without killing my grades.
I sort of take up different interests, and get to what I would describe as a good level of competency, and then I get bored and change to something else. For instance I was a big PC gamer a few years ago, but I would rarely stick to a single game for more than a few months, once I was one of the valuable people, I would be done and change to something else. I also periodically get hip to the computer-tech scene, figure out what the best computer I can build for the money is, and then ignore the tech scene for quite a while until most of the parts have changed and I have to relearn what's valuable and how things perform again. I've also taught myself how to build bicycle wheels (not mastered, but acceptable I guess.) The overall patern for me, I would say, is that once I have been through the learning curve, and practicing of something stops being much of an exercise in improvement, and more just a task, I lose interest. A lot of my focus tends to be on finding creative ways to assemble different objects, so games where you have to conceptualize and create, or building things out of components (computers, bicycle wheels) really appeal to me. Basically once the creative part is done, I don't care about the follow-through much.
I'm working on getting a physics degree, and then grad school, so with a bit of luck, my work won't be boring, but I think most mundane jobs would drive me nuts. Shit it took me like a month and a half to move my electric toothbrush 10 feet from my bedroom to my bathroom.
As for LII vs ILE again, you should feel pretty good about either description, because the two types are quite similar. The temperament is the determining factor, and you come off irrational. LII's tend to be sort of, structured and rigid, also very theoretical and removed. Things like "my way or the highway baby" generally go against what I'd expect from LII, it's a little too zany, and clearly filled with sarcasm. But the two types just swap the order of the functions contained in each block, so they are going to have very similar attributes. The LIE that people keep bringing up on the other hand, has the opposite functions, and is completely different. The my way or the highway thing would again be weird kind of weird coming from an LIE, like implied subtext and sarcasm aren't how they speak.
I looked at your pictures again, and I think you match decently enough with ILE, you kind of remind me of Aušra Augustinavičiūtė, the woman who created socionics (unfortunately all the pictures of her suck):
http://www.socionics.us/celebrities/4/augusta_2.jpg
http://www.socioniko.net/admin/aushra.jpg
She's a Ti-ILE, and I'm thinking that your emphasis on Si stuff, and that I kind of got an INTj vibe from your picture, it's more likely that you're the Ti-ILE (Ti/Si most valued.)
I don't know joy, but the list I use has her as ESFj (Alpha, like you.) Alphas have spoken well of her, so my guess is her self-type is wrong. Also I can't see how anyone thinks your Ej from what you've said, you're classic Ep (shifting interests, easily bored, and I'd guess your energy levels and moods fluctuate)
Arctures: delta just produces boring people
Arctures: but that's how we like it
vero: who needs a real person
vero: That's why I date an SLI
dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si
Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes
energystar you do look more LII in your photos. but your self description seems more EP temperament.
i believe that you are at an age where you can self type pretty effortlessly, and the fact that your husband would pick out the socionics ILE description says a lot, since he knews you a lot better and in many more contexts than anyone on line. there's not that much difference in MBTI and socionics type descriptions for the type of ILE, anyway.
having said that, you do seem like a Ti subtype, since i don't pick up on all that much Ne in your posts. it is not uncommon for a person to lean on their creative function a lot more as you age. esp with Ne, since it's application sometimes drives a lot of people insane....you kind of get reinforced to leaning on your creative in some environments.
glamarama: give your evidence for LIE then.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
You definitely sound LIE. Alpha NT is ridiculous suggestion. I'm kind of perplexed, Te ego is obvious.
Hey, ENERGYSTAR. Welcome to the 16types, where everything is obvious to everyone because we each have the one true socionics or whatever. It's a crap shoot, so I hope you are prepared for getting told you are ridiculous and an idiot for deciding to go with whatever type you decide makes the most sense.
I lean ENTp pretty strongly. You have a sense of rush in your writing that reminds me a lot of my own. INTjs seem more contemplative or careful or something.
Anyways, enjoy the forums as best you can, and KEEP IT REAL, GRRRRRRLLL
JRiddy
—————King of Socionics—————
Ne-ENTp 7w8 sx/so
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Last edited by energystar; 03-01-2010 at 08:02 PM.
No, a lot of intuitive logicals don't have interest in math or science, plenty of ethical types do. It's not type related.
I think LIE makes fairly good sense. You've demonstrated themes of the LIE personality in your self-description.
SEI doesn't make much sense to me. I would say ExTp for you, and also that you are probably enneagram 3.
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