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    Yes, I am. I believe that being logical has to do with consistency, to have a consistently applied reasoning for your decisions (one that has been thought out). If your explanations involve logical fallacies, like circular reasoning or ad hominem, then you are not being logical (or perhaps not truthful).

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    Logic: 1 a (1) : a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration : the science of the formal principles of reasoning (2) : a branch or variety of logic <modal logic> <Boolean logic> (3) : a branch of semiotic; especially : syntactics (4) : the formal principles of a branch of knowledge b (1) : a particular mode of reasoning viewed as valid or faulty (2) : relevance, propriety c : interrelation or sequence of facts or events when seen as inevitable or predictable d : the arrangement of circuit elements (as in a computer) needed for computation; also : the circuits themselves


    Logic is something that transcends type.

    T egos will come across as more structural, systematic, analytic, etc but that has more to do with the nature of external judging elements. I don't believe any type has a propensity to actually be more logical, but T types will often cling to the idea that they are so because of the parallels they find between their thought process and "logic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Logic: 1 a (1) : a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration : the science of the formal principles of reasoning (2) : a branch or variety of logic <modal logic> <Boolean logic> (3) : a branch of semiotic; especially : syntactics (4) : the formal principles of a branch of knowledge b (1) : a particular mode of reasoning viewed as valid or faulty (2) : relevance, propriety c : interrelation or sequence of facts or events when seen as inevitable or predictable d : the arrangement of circuit elements (as in a computer) needed for computation; also : the circuits themselves


    Logic is something that transcends type.

    T egos will come across as more structural, systematic, analytic, etc but that has more to do with the nature of external judging elements. I don't believe any type has a propensity to actually be more logical, but T types will often cling to the idea that they are so because of the parallels they find between their thought process and "logic".
    I don't think the use of "logic" as it is traditionally known is type related... however..

    log·i·cal (lj-kl)
    adj.
    1. Of, relating to, in accordance with, or of the nature of logic.
    2. Based on earlier or otherwise known statements, events, or conditions; reasonable: Rain was a logical expectation, given the time of year.
    3. Reasoning or capable of reasoning in a clear and consistent manner.



    I do think the nature of what is meant by a "logical person" will tend to be logical types. By logical, I don't mean someone who uses traditional "logic" necessarily, but someone who prefers the use of systematic judgments.
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    The forceful and abstract communication of logical types may have colored our understanding of what logic is like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    The forceful and abstract communication of logical types may have colored our understanding of what logic is like.
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    well I often hear people throw around the word in way that is not relevant to its intended use, especially when describing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    well I often hear people throw around the word in way that is not relevant to its intended use, especially when describing people.
    I agree, people don't use it for it's intended use.

    @ "colored our understanding"

    You'd think that "logical" means having to do with "logic", but it doesn't necessarily mean that. Or maybe it does in a non-traditional sense since we all use logic, just not formalized logic.
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    Are you a logical person?

    What are you, an asshole?

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    there's one guy i used to kind of know .. and i call him a logical person .. it just sits with me for him.

    but me, myself, i don't really consider to be logical.

    i often kind of go on impulses not reasoned out logic.

    then i do patterns, and i don't reason out the patterns, it's just the way things are.. i don't really "back up" my actions logically - i just do them ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    I don't think the use of logic as it is traditionally known is type related... however..

    log·i·cal (lj-kl)
    adj.
    1. Of, relating to, in accordance with, or of the nature of logic.
    2. Based on earlier or otherwise known statements, events, or conditions; reasonable: Rain was a logical expectation, given the time of year.
    3. Reasoning or capable of reasoning in a clear and consistent manner.



    I do think the nature of what is meant by a "logical person" will tend to be logical types. By logical, I don't mean someone who uses logic necessarily, but someone who prefers the use of systematic judgments.
    see i do number 2, but i don't consider it "logic".

    whereas 3 i do. i do'nt even know what the fuck #1 is meant to mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huitzilopochtli View Post
    Yes, I am. I believe that being logical has to do with consistency, to have a consistently applied reasoning for your decisions (one that has been thought out). If your explanations involve logical fallacies, like circular reasoning or ad hominem, then you are not being logical (or perhaps not truthful).
    I think you're confusing functional autism with logical reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRiddy View Post
    I think you're confusing functional autism with logical reasoning.
    Excuse me? I think you have mistaken your for .

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    I'd call myself pragmatic rather than logical. Logic is something that presumes a perfect understanding of things, which is something I am sceptical of. So instead one reasons from the standpoint of what one can do with the time and resources alotted to oneself using the skills and materials one is familiar with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    I'd call myself pragmatic rather than logical. Logic is something that presumes a perfect understanding of things, which is something I am sceptical of. So instead one reasons from the standpoint of what one can do with the time and resources alotted to oneself using the skills and materials one is familiar with.
    I think you summed it up perfectly
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    Quote Originally Posted by energystar View Post
    I will give it a go - this is how I see logic and the lack of it.

    I have this friend who can't stay in a hotelroom above the third floor. The reason for this is that she is afraid there might be a fire, and in that case the elevators won't be safe to use and thus she is more likely to die in an eventual fire.

    She claims that this is a logical decision whereas I think it is not.
    My argument to her is that statistically there is much less chance of her encountering a hotel fire than say a fatal car crash or plane crash. And since she drives a car to and from work every single day and take flights several times a year she isn't being logcial, because the logical thing to do would be to first eliminate the things most likely to kill you.


    Even after me pointing this out she still argues that her choice is logical because a fire will lead to malfunctioning elevators - and I am amazed that she cannot recognize that she is simply rationalizing her long standing fear of fires.

    btw:
    I don't think being logical translates into always doing the logical thing, but I do think it means that you recognize the logical choice even if you decide to give in to other urges.
    Her reasoning is logical in that it makes sense and it is true. She just isn't being realistic.
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