Temperaments: IJ appreciation thread

[Joy]

So where to "normalizing" and "harmonizing" fit into model A?

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Krig the Viking]

It doesn't change or alter Model A, in my understanding (but I haven't gotten around to looking at it in any detail yet, so if I'm totally wrong I won't know it until I do) - I think it's more like the way an E-type can change the way a socionics type appears. So, for instance, if an LIE was an N subtype - they would appear much more "IJ" ish, more Ti/Fi, rather than characteristicly EJ. A C subtype IJ would appear lighter, and less rigid - probably someone like Carla would fit that. And so on.

DCNH is really just another level of division on top of the standard binary rational/irrational subtype model. To put it simply, the rational subtype gets divided into Extraverted-Rational Subtype, or "Dominant", and Introverted-Rational Subtype, or "Normalizing". Similarly, the irrational subtype gets divided into Extraverted-Irrational Subtype, or "Creative", and Introverted-Irrational Subtype, or "Harmonizing".

For those who aren't interested in DCNH, when you see "Dominant" or "Normalizing", just read "rational subtype", and when you see "Creative" or "Harmonizing", just read "irrational subtype".

A C subtype IJ would appear lighter, and less rigid - probably someone like Carla would fit that. And so on.

No, not in real life. I'm probably not a "C subtype" example.

I don't know you very well, Carla, but you do strike me as some kind of rational subtype.

I'm Creative subtype. I do appear rigid sometimes, especially in hostile or unfamiliar environments, but in friendly environments I quickly become light-hearted and rather silly. Silly to the point of being annoying to my younger siblings. So I would say the points about IJ in this thread apply to me, but less so than to other IJs.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I was mostly kidding. BUT from my perception, that is what IJ energy is like to me, so I don't really like it.... it just seems really tense and makes me feel uncomfortable. IP & IJ interactions tend to be VERY awkward, sometimes even more so than IP and EJ. I guess to be fair, it takes a lot of 'balls' or courage on my part (or the ij parts) to get over the initial awkwardness, and if we can do that- things are OK, but it just doesn't seem to be worth it, when the communication between other ips and eps just goes a lot more smoothly.

And I find EJ to be very unnecessarily pushy and get me to do things that I don't want to do and have no desire to do. Just leave me alone!!!

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

In case I hurt anybody's feelings, IPs are:

*Lazy
*Hypocritical
*Just sits there
*Too static, 'fag-like' energy
*Weak, wimpy
*No drive
*Too deep (be a river, not a lake)

[Brilliand]

*Too static, 'fag-like' energy

B-b-b-but they're Dynamic!

[Trevor]

It's not just about you and your dad BnD. There are lot more people out there.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Psychologically and internally we are, but we don't really show it- unless through writing or plays/acting or something.

[ArchonAlarion]

In case I hurt anybody's feelings, IPs are:

*Too static, 'fag-like' energy

No freaking clue what this means, but lmaoo

[electric sheep]

In case I hurt anybody's feelings, IPs are:

Why don't you try building people up instead of tearing everyone down? You stated your dislike of Ijs on the Ij appreciation thread, try finding something to appreciate about them.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Okay, okay, okay. I will build people up. ;p (this reminds me of Miley Cyrus or the disney episode where the stuck up preppy fag learns how to be nice and encouraging to the LOSERS.)