VI my dad

[Galen]

Not many great pictures of him, so we'll have to make due




direct linking the last one for large filesize, also shirtless
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PICT0128.jpg

[xkj220]

Fe ego.

[Galen]

I could believe ENFj.

[The Exception]

Got a description of your father? How is your relationship with him?

[Galen]

Got a description of your father? How is your relationship with him?

Oh boy do I have a description:

1. From my perspective, he seems to have weird mood swings: one second he's neutral/happy, then if he's aggravated a flit of anger shoots across his face and his voice turns harsh, and ten seconds later he's forgotten all about it. This is probably what turns me off the most from him, because I feel so overwhelmed to do everything the exact way he wants something to be done.

2. He loves to have company over, often inviting his friends to dinner and music-playing without informing the rest of the family beforehand.

3. His life's philosophy is "eating is the most personal thing anyone can do," and loves to celebrate with a meal; even though he often expresses concern about money, he will be very willing to splurge on good food.

4. My mom, and IXFp (probably N) used to argue with him a lot when I was a kid, often resulting in him crying and leaving the house for a while. They've since worked things out though, but I still see a bit of tension.

5. He loves to be in nature and goes hiking very regularly. When I was a kid all of our vacations were to campsites and national parks like Yosemite and Death Valley. My mom and I have since lost interest in such activities, but he and my brother still go fairly often.

6. To me, he also seems too touchy-feely for a father to be, not afraid to show his affection with a hug or a sappy compliment. This tends to bug the crap out of me, I tend to say "don't touch me" over and over in my head when he does something like that.

7. When in conversation, I often find that I have to strain myself in order to follow what he's saying. He often talks about people I've never met in a fashion that leads me to believe that he thinks I know those people intimately. He also seems very business-oriented, something I can't really relate to. When discussing matters of business he's very helpful and insightful, but at other times I find him selfish in conversation.

8. Often times he will ask me questions about personal preference such as "do you like x" or "are you prone to eating x" (more commonly the latter question). The trouble with this is that 'x' tends to be the same things over and over again, like mushrooms or tomatoes. As such, I get the impression that he doesn't particularly care enough about me to remember personal aspects about me. Combine this with point 6 and I come to a cynical result that the overt-sentimentality is just an act he puts on to pretend that he cares about me when in fact he doesn't care about me as the whole person that I am.


So yes, I do not hold my father in very high opinion.

[07490]

what type do you think you are?

[Galen]

what type do you think you are?

For a while I've considered myself to be EII, although I fit in with a lot of my alpha acquaintances pretty well. From people on here I've gotten (in order of likeliness) ILI, IEI, ILE, and LSI, and one of my friends thinks I'm LII. Regardless of that, I had an idea that my dad was LSE, which would make me definitely not EII.

EDIT: Then again, I don't believe myself to have met a true LSE so I can't say for sure.

[Galen]

double-post for

9. He sleeps naked. That in and of itself isn't type related, but he just really enjoys nudity. I've seen his penis more than any son should ever see his father fully clothed. I've caught him sitting in the dining room with no lights on, watching the Democratic National Convention whilst completely in the nude. And he had the gaul, the audacity to say 'hi' to me, as if there was no issue at all. The following night I saw him doing the dishes sans clothing at 10:30 at night. I told my mom about these episodes, to which she responded that she's tried to get him to wear clothes when he goes to sleep, but apparently he became very indignent and 'crabby' when approached about the subject. As such, nobody confronts him about it anymore.

[Krig the Viking]

I could see your dad being LSE, based on what you've said, Arctures. Clearly Si-valuing, anyway.

3. His life's philosophy is "eating is the most personal thing anyone can do," and loves to celebrate with a meal; even though he often expresses concern about money, he will be very willing to splurge on good food.

5. He loves to be in nature and goes hiking very regularly. When I was a kid all of our vacations were to campsites and national parks like Yosemite and Death Valley. My mom and I have since lost interest in such activities, but he and my brother still go fairly often.

6. To me, he also seems too touchy-feely for a father to be, not afraid to show his affection with a hug or a sappy compliment. This tends to bug the crap out of me, I tend to say "don't touch me" over and over in my head when he does something like that.

Those things point toward Si-valuing to me.

6. To me, he also seems too touchy-feely for a father to be, not afraid to show his affection with a hug or a sappy compliment. This tends to bug the crap out of me, I tend to say "don't touch me" over and over in my head when he does something like that.

8. Often times he will ask me questions about personal preference such as "do you like x" or "are you prone to eating x" (more commonly the latter question). The trouble with this is that 'x' tends to be the same things over and over again, like mushrooms or tomatoes. As such, I get the impression that he doesn't particularly care enough about me to remember personal aspects about me. Combine this with point 6 and I come to a cynical result that the overt-sentimentality is just an act he puts on to pretend that he cares about me when in fact he doesn't care about me as the whole person that I am.

The fact that you feel his "over-sentimentality" is just an act could correlate well with LSE's Role-Fe. He feels an obligation to display emotion and sentiment, even though doesn't necessarily want to.

7. When in conversation, I often find that I have to strain myself in order to follow what he's saying. He often talks about people I've never met in a fashion that leads me to believe that he thinks I know those people intimately. He also seems very business-oriented, something I can't really relate to. When discussing matters of business he's very helpful and insightful, but at other times I find him selfish in conversation.

The business-oriented manner is a stereotypically Te thing. And talking about strangers as if you know them could indicate very weak Fi -- he's not very aware of relationships in general. LSEs have 1-dimensional Fi.

Based on your description, I would say that LSE is a pretty good bet.

9. He sleeps naked. That in and of itself isn't type related, but he just really enjoys nudity. I've seen his penis more than any son should ever see his father fully clothed. I've caught him sitting in the dining room with no lights on, watching the Democratic National Convention whilst completely in the nude. And he had the gaul, the audacity to say 'hi' to me, as if there was no issue at all. The following night I saw him doing the dishes sans clothing at 10:30 at night. I told my mom about these episodes, to which she responded that she's tried to get him to wear clothes when he goes to sleep, but apparently he became very indignent and 'crabby' when approached about the subject. As such, nobody confronts him about it anymore.

Hahaha, that's hilarious!

How old are you, Arctures? You sound like a teenager who's still living at home.

[jason_m]

Oh boy do I have a description:

1. From my perspective, he seems to have weird mood swings: one second he's neutral/happy, then if he's aggravated a flit of anger shoots across his face and his voice turns harsh, and ten seconds later he's forgotten all about it. This is probably what turns me off the most from him, because I feel so overwhelmed to do everything the exact way he wants something to be done.

2. He loves to have company over, often inviting his friends to dinner and music-playing without informing the rest of the family beforehand.

3. His life's philosophy is "eating is the most personal thing anyone can do," and loves to celebrate with a meal; even though he often expresses concern about money, he will be very willing to splurge on good food.

4. My mom, and IXFp (probably N) used to argue with him a lot when I was a kid, often resulting in him crying and leaving the house for a while. They've since worked things out though, but I still see a bit of tension.

5. He loves to be in nature and goes hiking very regularly. When I was a kid all of our vacations were to campsites and national parks like Yosemite and Death Valley. My mom and I have since lost interest in such activities, but he and my brother still go fairly often.

6. To me, he also seems too touchy-feely for a father to be, not afraid to show his affection with a hug or a sappy compliment. This tends to bug the crap out of me, I tend to say "don't touch me" over and over in my head when he does something like that.

7. When in conversation, I often find that I have to strain myself in order to follow what he's saying. He often talks about people I've never met in a fashion that leads me to believe that he thinks I know those people intimately. He also seems very business-oriented, something I can't really relate to. When discussing matters of business he's very helpful and insightful, but at other times I find him selfish in conversation.
8. Often times he will ask me questions about personal preference such as "do you like x" or "are you prone to eating x" (more commonly the latter question). The trouble with this is that 'x' tends to be the same things over and over again, like mushrooms or tomatoes. As such, I get the impression that he doesn't particularly care enough about me to remember personal aspects about me. Combine this with point 6 and I come to a cynical result that the overt-sentimentality is just an act he puts on to pretend that he cares about me when in fact he doesn't care about me as the whole person that I am.


So yes, I do not hold my father in very high opinion.

Ethical + Si-valuing = Delta NF or Alpha SF (but, probably the latter, if his emphasis on Si is strong). Let me ask you this: is he often of high-spirits, trying to lighten the mood or are his emotions more deep and sentimental?

EDIT: I now think Delta NF, because of the business-oriented approach (green), but I think it would still be helpful if you could answer my question (if possible).

Jason

[Krig the Viking]

Ethical + Si-valuing = Delta NF or Alpha SF (but, probably the latter, if his emphasis on Si is strong). Let me ask you this: is he often of high-spirits, trying to lighten the mood or are his emotions more deep and sentimental?

EDIT: I now think Delta NF, because of the business-oriented approach (green), but I think it would still be helpful if you could answer my question (if possible).

Jason

You make some good points. Knowing Arctures' type would really help, as well.

Arctures: what are some of the things you like about your dad (if any). That might help identify some valued functions in common, if there are any.

[Slacker]

ROFL.

He sounds pretty cool to me. Strong Si, or at least strongly values Si.

I'm going with ESE.

Also, what does his shirt say in that top photo?

[Galen]

How old are you, Arctures? You sound like a teenager who's still living at home.

Pretty close, I was home from college for the summer until monday. I am 20 years of age, will be 21 in January.

Arctures: what are some of the things you like about your dad (if any). That might help identify some valued functions in common, if there are any.

er well uhh hmm let me see
I guess I can appreciate his insight into the business world once in a while, when the air is serious and I'm discussing my future. But he tends to take his controlling business attitude way too far. For example:

10. When preparing to move down to Santa Barbara for college, he offered to help me look through a bunch of boxes upstairs for cooking supplies. I took the help, knowing I would need as much of it as I could. Now, we have a lot of boxes, lots of them consisting of my mom's books (although she likes to claim that dad hoards most of the stuff, which may very well be true). We went through about five boxes when he got angry about something regarding organization, and suddenly the project turned into an "organize everything" one. I find this to be a pattern of his, where even when someone else is trying to get a task done, like storage or soldering something or hammering out a contract, he takes it upon himself to jump in and do it because he believes that nobody else can "do it correctly".

Let me ask you this: is he often of high-spirits, trying to lighten the mood or are his emotions more deep and sentimental?

I would say definitely more sentimental about his feelings. He'll throw in a bad joke every once in a while, but he gravitates to a more subdued nature when discussing his feelings about things.

You make some good points. Knowing Arctures' type would really help, as well.

As previously mentioned, this topic is under great debate. If he is in fact LSE, then my conception of myself being EII is in big jeopardy.

Also, what does his shirt say in that top photo?

"186,000 miles per Second.
It's not just a good thing, it's the law."

I'll admit that one's kinda clever.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I agree with redbaron.

ESFj. Touchy feely for a man, an INFp made him cry and feel insecure. Loves having people over, soooo ESFj you know?

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

9. He sleeps naked. That in and of itself isn't type related, but he just really enjoys nudity. I've seen his penis more than any son should ever see his father fully clothed. I've caught him sitting in the dining room with no lights on, watching the Democratic National Convention whilst completely in the nude. And he had the gaul, the audacity to say 'hi' to me, as if there was no issue at all. The following night I saw him doing the dishes sans clothing at 10:30 at night. I told my mom about these episodes, to which she responded that she's tried to get him to wear clothes when he goes to sleep, but apparently he became very indignent and 'crabby' when approached about the subject. As such, nobody confronts him about it anymore.

Oh wow. LMAO. Man, do you really want to share this stuff to strangers online about him? I'm just saying lol.

[Galen]

Oh wow. LMAO. Man, do you really want to share this stuff to strangers online about him? I'm just saying lol.

Well it's not as if I'm sharing embarrassing information about myself. And I doubt anybody on this forum will ever meet him, so I see this as a safe place to disclose that kind of info (fingers crossed D:). The main point of that story was about him getting pissy when confronted about it though; it's also a great excuse to tell a story.

ESE does seem like a fitting choice I suppose, and if I am in fact EII then saying we have a mirage relationship seems pretty accurate to me.

[olduser]

haha your dad is hilarious. however, bad for you. i don't know what type. i don't think ESE as ESE's are the sort who will remember lots of shit about you and keep up with your daily dares. I would guess ENFp or ENTp

[jason_m]

I don't think ESE, because of his apparent mode of emoting, but I could be wrong. This would be the biggest clue: it's clear that he values Si, but is he good at using it? Is he very talented at cooking, art, music, etc. (i.e., anything involving the senses)?

Jason