I think she's an ESE, not LSI like some people say. Seeing strong Si/Fe values and EJ temperament.
Catherine Zeta-Jones
I think she's an ESE, not LSI like some people say. Seeing strong Si/Fe values and EJ temperament.
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I hate her.
She's super hot.
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Oh yeah. Well besides the actual values and temperament, she seems to strongly fit the stereotypical profile of ESE.Originally Posted by FDG
Having now watched the video, the first thing I have to say is OMG she's obnoxious. The second is that I wonder what you see in here that screams ESE?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
The way she was doing the fake accents - a bit showy-offy and too sure of herself. Ugh. Like nails on a chalkboard. It isn't her fault. Creative Se does that to me. It looks like arrogance to me. It's just confidence and I remind myself of that around people like that IRL, and I remind myself that I probably seem wishy-washy and flakey to them. I used to think all people saw LSIs the way I see them - as arrogant and obnoxious - and I complained about one who had that same way to her, and had a group of people defend her to me. So I know it's just me and how I respond to her.
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You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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EIE probably. She turns me on, but I find her kind of annoying personality-wise.
I agree, judging solely from that video, EIE seems most likely. She has some of the emotional mannerisms and voice modulations similar to ESE, but she is much more restrained and less "bubbly". Her story about her cooking disaster and her reported complete inability to cook make me think Super-Ego Si, plus the somewhat oblivious way she waved the golf club around makes me think Intuition of some kind.
Plus, she reminds me of a FeNi woman I know in RL, but that's hardly conclusive evidence as none of you know her.
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i still think lsi, with eie being another possibility.
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She reminds me of Richard Dreyfus. Another LSI.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
What makes you guys say LSI over EIE? I'm curious.
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She reminds me of many ESEs I know, especially in the way she speaks about her life course and recent events. Most of the quotes I found seem very typical of an ESE who would be an actress, a very rich sense of Si and Ne valuing in a lot of them (Ne themes over Ni themes). I don't see any Se creative. Not sure where you're seeing that, but you are instead seeing Fe. That video for instance has Fe coming from her, and many hints of Si in her speech and mannerisms, and no real hints of Ni, which would be more obvious in rational betas. Fe would be more of an expressed talent for ESEs and less refined for LSIs. Take for instance Diane Lane or Lauren Bacall for some actresses who I think are LSI, who really have that approach to this lifestyle, and who are more fluent in their use of Ni and Ti. She also VIs like an ESE, which I think is important.
I'm going with LSI, she reminds me of a few LSI women my LSI dad was friends with from work.
Not to mention that she generally plays a Beta ST in everything she's in, that I've seen at least
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Gawd she is so beautiful.
I heard she is a mega cunt in real life.
I get it though, people see people like this, powerful, self assured, and wealthy, as cunty. For all kinds of reasons. Maybe she is, maybe she isn;t, maybe its all in how you look at it.
She would not take no for an answer for her first acting gigs.
LSI-Se for sure. Her facial features look like other LSI-Se. She's really not all that emotional anyway, I love how she usually doesn't smile in photos (she looks quite unemotional in her photos).
Last edited by Disturbed; 03-10-2023 at 01:25 PM. Reason: i had mentally fluctuated about LSI subtypes
Yes, LSI.
ESE-Fe. Definitely ethical.
I'm not sure what type she is, other than she's not ESI and she's super hot.
I'm kind of leaning towards her being either LSI-Se or IEI-Fe today.
She's been married to Michael Douglas for 22 years ... went through a cancer scare, and now he's doing pretty ok for being 77. I say they are a dual pair.
Subtypes are something I have to distill (in my mind) for awhile.
So charming, makes me proud of my Welsh heritage
lol there’s a bit on Wikipedia quoting her as saying ‘I drink, I swear, I like sex’ sounds beta to me.
I love that they’re still together, despite the age gap and both having health problems
EIE/LSI duality envy…
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