Mean Darkie!Originally Posted by Darkside
Mean Darkie!
Come on Joy, what would the world be like if every great thinker uhhhhh....sheltered and never expressed their great ideas?! Imagine, just imagine, to be the ONE person who figured out JOY'S type. The elusive...all changing Joy was discovered!! lol
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MAIZ ADMIT THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH JOY!!
YOU WANT TO TAKE HER FROM ME! ADMIT IT BITCH!
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Oops. Sorry. Mean Me!no, you're mean, for thinking darkie is mean.Mean Darkie!
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lots of people of lots of types feel that way
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then why the fuck are they so into the military?
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yeah, they are still a part of the system though... they may decide to enter the military of their own accord, but they're still willing to do it.
ISFps can usually only be productive when working for themselves. In all other cases it is rare for them to work hard. ISFps always try to keep well away from bosses and other authoritative figures.
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[/quote]It's freedom, it promises MORE freedom. The military is about "protecting freedom." It's about killing off those that are TRYING to SUBMIT us to THEIR views. It's freedom fighting. It's saying, fuck you, DIE, those trying to IMPOSE themselves. Just more food for thought. Trying to understand those "submissive minded" ESTj's. lol
ISFps can usually only be productive when working for themselves. In all other cases it is rare for them to work hard. ISFps always try to keep well away from bosses and other authoritative figures.
it's not about submission AT ALL... it's about conformity!!!
Alternative mainstream shit. You're conforming to the alternative view. Blah.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
FDG, you have to believe SOMETHING. It's not like you can be completely inert.
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ESTjs are soooo conformist in that they love to do what society in general says is good. They're such failures at everything and are only alive to shoot arabs for me and to come fix my cable.
You're right, but I hate "quotations" that sound like slogans.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
ESTjs aren't the conforming type, but often they seem to expect everyone else to conform to their standards (not the other way around). This could be a type-related perception on my part, but that's how I see it.
Whatever. I recommend everyone take knives and aim for their carotid arteries as soon as possible.
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The bottom line is that there is no way that INFps are my conflicting partners. I adore them too much. And this thread is NOT about ESTjs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The conflictors of INFjs are ESTps.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
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Yep, there's no question I'm an ISFp.
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If Joy's ISFP then I'm an... ExFJ.
Excellent question.wow. so why do you think you believed that you were your dual for so long?
I was raised in household of introverts. There are 5 of us, every single one an introvert. The family member that I am closest to is my sister, who is an ISFp. I was given a lot of responsibility as a kid, one of my primary responsibilities being to care for my siblings. My parents were both raised by alcoholics, so neither had any concept at all of what a "normal" home is like. They were very loving and commited, but prolly gave me too much of the wrong kinds of responsibility. I had to teach my sister how to handle her weaknesses, especially in dealing with my brother who was too aggressive and my parents who were WAY WAY too strict. Basically, what I'm saying is that growing up, my environment required much use of functions other than my first two. Obviously using certain functions for the first 18 years of someone's life will make them fairly good at it AND confuse their sense of who they are.
I think that when both an introvert function and extroverted function (like Ni and Ne) both test high, it can mean that those are your 3rd and 5th functions.
Anyways... I spent three days with an ENTp and a few hours around his ENTp brother, and it's become quite obvious that I am not an ENTp. I'm too bouncy, and I'm always telling stories, and I'm much better in social interactions than most peolpe are, much less ENTps. "The Mediator" totally makes sense. Also, I've realized exactly how much my Si was repressed by taking ADD medication. Naturally my Si is VERY strong... on ADD meds it's just about non existent.I may have to take them again though.
Excellent question.
I was raised in household of introverts. There are 5 of us, every single one an introvert. The family member that I am closest to is my sister, who is an ISFp. I was given a lot of responsibility as a kid, one of my primary responsibilities being to care for my siblings. My parents were both raised by alcoholics, so neither had any concept at all of what a "normal" home is like. They were very loving and commited, but prolly gave me too much of the wrong kinds of responsibility. I had to teach my sister how to handle her weaknesses, especially in dealing with my brother who was too aggressive and my parents who were WAY WAY too strict. Basically, what I'm saying is that growing up, my environment required much use of functions other than my first two. Obviously using certain functions for the first 18 years of someone's life will make them fairly good at it AND confuse their sense of who they are.
I think that when both an introvert function and extroverted function (like Ni and Ne) both test high, it can mean that those are your 3rd and 5th functions.
Anyways... I spent three days with an ENTp and a few hours around his ENTp brother, and it's become quite obvious that I am not an ENTp. I'm too bouncy, and I'm always telling stories, and I'm much better in social interactions than most peolpe are, much less ENTps. "The Mediator" totally makes sense. Also, I've realized exactly how much my Si was repressed by taking ADD medication. Naturally my Si is VERY strong... on ADD meds it's just about non existent.
the brother is constantly telling stories.....or didn't you notice? lmao
and watching them together, the brother seems way more extroverted
but i dont really think about this shit when im around them so what do i know
maybe we arnt even talking about the same things!!! but i think we are!!!
im generally a good mediator too...when i read that that is when i was like.."hmmm?" then everyone was like "NO" so i was like "GEEZ FINE"
yeah, but it doesn't seem like the same way I do it... what do you think? Do I really seem like the same type at them?
Yes. It's the subtype difference.and watching them together, the brother seems way more extroverted
His brother is my ID?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
they're both ENTps
I'm glad you found your type Joy. You are actually one of the people that are on here I don't think I could type whatsoever so I can see the difficulties you must have.
Whatever your type, your nice to me so I like you
Polly
ENTP
internet typing is a sham anyways
Agreed, I think the functions are more building blocks for personality anyway. People are more than just functions on a socionics chart and socionics does not have all the answers for intertype relations.
It's just a tool.
The only benefit I think to really knowing your type is that it might help you explain to others (but lord..don't do it in socionics terms) what your weaknesses and strengths are. But the older I get the more my strenghts seem to stand out and my weaknesses are more overlooked.
Polly
ENTP
I think that understanding your functions can help you to accept yourself for who you are.
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