Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
I don't at all like being called lazy, and don't really consider myself lazy where it matters. II had a lot of arguments with my ESE grandmother who thought I was horribly lazy. I can understand where she got it, because when I'm home i don't do anything, but I was going to school, I was looking for a job. I was doing everything I needed to be doing. I just am not physically running around.
I'm taking 19 units this semester, and I wish I could find a job, but I can't, I've been trying for nearly a year. I have a 3-3.5 gpa. Looking at it this way I don't think anyone would call me lazy. I'm getting plenty done. I feel like I could do more(why I want a job). But since I don't have anything worth while to do, I spend a lot of time doing nothing usually on my computer. My ESE gma criticized me like none other. My argument was that just because she spent 12 hours a day in the garden and cleaning house doesn't mean she's more productive than I am.
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That has been my experience with ExTjs aswell, though it wouldn't surprise me if an ENTj said that in all of the activity their main goal is to constantly simplify the work so they can get even more things done.Originally Posted by octopuslove
Doing something without consideration of whether or not it can be completed is something LSEs do, not LIEs. Everything thing else though is a good example of leading Te.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
lol.
The end is nigh
hmmmmm to me, octopuslove is on to something.
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those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Obviously a LIE that considers time with his girlfried as "wasted" is not healthy, is probably brainwashed by some american ideal of all-consuming work. She will likely leave him soon, and he'll go through some sort of midlife crisis where he'd feel like all the work he's done so far was time wasted. Typical behavior of type-A personality disorder coupled with some sort of OCD, a person I'd stay away with even if he's my identical.
But I do feel guilty if I don't work at least a little bit every day, to be honest. Thankfully I can do it from the computer, thus even when I'm on vacation I can dedicate 1h-1h30 to working. I have 2 part-time jobs and I go to college but I mean...doing stuff is easy? It's just stuff, easy to figure out, you wake up and start doing some work, in 2 hours you've finished, fine. I mean, climbing mountains with bad weather condition is complicated...not writing some stuff on the computer. College classes are a bit harder, because you have to figure out the likes and dislikes of the professor, what he wants you to write on the exam, his thinking style, so on.
There has to be a balance, though: anything done to the excess becomes an unhealthy obsession.
Some people have called me lazy because I am a relaxed person in my activites, and I can stand a lot of work, at all times of the day, without any need of complaining. Ex. my flatmates used to complain all the time about working and studying, I never complained and always felt energetic at the end of the day, what they concluded was that I just didn't do anything all day long. Which is fine, for me...it's not like I think I'm better because I do stuff, it's just the way my biochemistry works, I need to be doing something almost all the time.
As far as people correcting LIE's logic: it's not like we (or anybody, for the matter) always feel like double-checking for logical consistency every work we utter. We're extraverts and sometimes speak just for its sake. Octopuslove, I detect some lack of objectivity in some of your commentary on here, some slight derogatory attitude towards this particular LIE you're talking about, if I were you I would avoid trying to infer any generalities from this specific case you're involved in.
Last edited by FDG; 09-13-2009 at 07:49 PM.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Nah, I don't think a recursive argument can work here. Since balance is the opposite of excess, they are the negation of each other, thus it's impossible for one to become the other without losing the true meaning of the sentence. I think this an example of what Wittgenstein was trying to convey when he considered most problems of philosophy as mere matters of wrong usage of language.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
octopuslove your avatar makes me have sexual feelings.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...