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    @kingslayer - this may seem familiar to you from our conversation in the chat box

    Fi interprets, analyzes, helps you understand why some human beings are out of the expected box of rational behavior
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    @kingslayer - this may seem familiar to you from our conversation in the chat box

    Fi interprets, analyzes, helps you understand why some human beings are out of the expected box of rational behavior
    For this to be meaningful, one has to ask: "but how does it work?"

    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...fi-and-fe.html
    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...ork-floor.html

    Now 'interpret' and 'analyze' are not good words to describe what Fi does, as these words imply conscious thinking processes to most people. But Fi does 'interpret' and 'analyze', but it does so at an emotional level, probably in deeper regions of the brain, not in the cortex.
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    For this to be meaningful, one has to ask: "but how does it work?"

    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...fi-and-fe.html
    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...ork-floor.html

    Now 'interpret' and 'analyze' are not good words to describe what Fi does, as these words imply conscious thinking processes to most people. But Fi does 'interpret' and 'analyze', but it does so at an emotional level, probably in deeper regions of the brain, not in the cortex.
    You should read my other post. You’ll love it
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    For this to be meaningful, one has to ask: "but how does it work?"

    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...fi-and-fe.html
    http://mavericksocionics.blogspot.co...ork-floor.html

    Now 'interpret' and 'analyze' are not good words to describe what Fi does, as these words imply conscious thinking processes to most people. But Fi does 'interpret' and 'analyze', but it does so at an emotional level, probably in deeper regions of the brain, not in the cortex.
    This
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1332715
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I think this is actually not an example of how Fi works, but of how Ne works. It is the intellectual understanding that EIIs and IEEs come up with after they have already passed value judgements. These are highly verbalized abstractions and generalizations of their experiences. An EII confronted in real life with someone like Trump will first and foremost feel disgust and resistance at the bodily/emotional level, instinctively (quite literally) sensing this is a 'bad' person. The intellectual understanding follows as a rationalization/intellectualization afterwards.

    See how your example the IEE keeps things simple and the EII goes full throttle with an explanation: that's creative Ne in action!
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    I think this is actually not an example of how Fi works, but of how Ne works. It is the intellectual understanding that EIIs and IEEs come up with after the have already passed value judgements. These are highly verbalized abstractions and generalizations of their experiences. An EII confronted in real life with someone like Trump will first and foremost feel disgust and resistance at the bodily/emotional level, instinctively (quite literally) sensing this is a 'bad' person. The intellectual understanding follows as a rationalization/intellectualization afterwards.
    I have passed off Trump actions as equating to an attention seeking person... already made the judgements before proving the example
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I have passed off Trump actions as equating to an attention seeking person... already made the judgements before proving the example
    Yes, that's what I said: you make the judgement before providing the example. The problem is, the example you are giving, explains how creative Ne works, it does not explain how Fi works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Yes, that's what I said: you make the judgement before providing the example. The problem is, the example you are giving, explains how creative Ne works, it does not explain how Fi works.
    Fi works in conjunction with the Ne.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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