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One would expect there to already be a thread about this, yet I searched rigolets and found nothing.
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heres my take :
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader; ENFj
Empereor Palpatine; ENFj
Luke SKywalker; INTp
Leia Skywalker; ENFp
Yoda; INTj
Mace Windu; ENFj
Padmé; INFp
Obi Won Kanobi; ENTp
C3PO; ESFj
Lando; INFj
Viceroy; ESFp
Jengo Fett; ESFp
Han Solo; Unkown
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aren't they alpha instead ?? They are so hilarious together. C3 looks more Fe to me. R2 is intellectual, adventurous, kind of rebellious, and does not care for emotionsC3PO: EII
R2D2: ??? or SEE
I would say
C3PO SEI : extremely low intuition, puts feelings in the forefront and worries for comfort and security, doesn't know how to go with the flow
R2D2 LII : very good timing and intuition of situations, logical type
Anakin : beta type, SLE maybe. Tends to be physically involved and use his hands before his brain
Padme EIE : rationnal beta NF who tries to teach Anakin to think more before doing things
Luke IEI : introvert irrational NF, has a hard time keeping emotions in check
Leia EII : rationnal NF, kind of control freak with low Fe
Han SLI : well... He's a ST, he's irrational, and I can't picture him being a beta.
Yoda : Yoda
the others : I don't know, maybe chewbacca is ESE ??
But you know... it was a long time ago, in a far, far galaxy...
Mmm I can relate to R2D2.
I dislike the fact that Wall-E reminds me of an E.T./artoo hybrid.
R2-D2: LII-Ti
C-3PO: R2's ESE-Fe gay lover
Luke: IEE-Fi
Leia: LIE-Ni
Han: SEE-Se
Chewie: ESI-Fi
Obi-Wan: EII-Ne
Yoda: EII-Ne
Qui-Gon: IEE-Ne
Mace Windu: ESI-Se
Anakin: SEI-Si
Padmé: IEE-Fi
Palpatine: LIE-Ni
Darth Maul: LSI-Se
Count Dooku: LIE-Ni
Darth Vader: LSI-Se
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
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My guesses:
Luke: SEI Probably not an Se seeking type. Quiet, shy, good-natured, encouraging, and tends mostly to stay out of people's way. Has a semi-rigorous system of personal values that he prioritizes (demonstrative Fi). Some NF (esp. EII) is also a good possibility, but a major theme throughout the films is that he seems to need Ne egos (like Obi Wan and Yoda) to convince him of his great potential, otherwise he's pragmatic and down to Earth.
R2D2: ILE Quite the rambunctious little fellow, always poking his nose where it doesn't belong and getting into trouble. Puts himself in dangerous situations without a second's thought, usually to satisfy his curiosity. Expert with computer systems.
C3PO: ILI Not sure about the typing, but his standard routine is criticizing R2s "experimental" decisions and acting like a foil for him.
Leia: LSE
Han: SLI Si can be bad ass too! I don't see him taking much initiative to form permanent bonds with people, but forms relationships after the fact. So it's a better typing than SEE IMO.
Lando Calrisian: Fi creative
I don't see the point in commenting on the rest of them because there's been a lot written already.
With C3PO, do you see an ILI being a clucking, overbearing mother hen?
Perhaps. My own guess would be a caricature of an ESE. Similarly perhaps with Kryten from Red Dwarf.
Hm. You could be right.
I had previously guessed that Luke might be IEE, but I find your argument for SEI compelling. SEI is now in the lead in my mind; I shall have to investigate further.
I agree with Han being SLI, though with a fairly low degree of certainty. R2-D2 being ILE is unexpectedly obvious in hindsight. I'll have to think about Leia being LSE, though. She's hard to pin down. It's an intriguing possibility though.
I have no idea about Threepio.
Quaero Veritas.
Darth Vader would be a good guy if you just forgive him and love him as much as possible. But then there would be no story I suppose.
yea star wars as a whole is more about vader than luke, when you factor in the first three episodes.
First one --> childhood, coming of age story
Second one --> teen angst, love story
Third one --> once again emo/teen angst, tragedy
Fourth one --> beginning of the hero cycle for luke
Fifth one --> typical middle of trilogy (dark one)
Sixth one --> typical finale of trilogy, also resolves ep 1-3 plotlines
lol I hate to get all scholarly about it, but the form is kind of like, the first hero that is presented is vader, and he is followed, but he falls, the second hero that is presented is luke, and he is followed, but he succedes, and also redeems vader, the fallen hero. The idea is that while great ambitions may fall, their is redemption in the new younger generation, and in a way that generation reaches back and heals the failures of the older generation, mix that with the mythological/spiritual symbolism, and you got some major themes. I don't know if george lucas was but he studied mythology in depth and he has a couple of interviews talking about it, he wrote star wars and then later learned it followed basic mythology archetypes and forms. The hero cycle, the wise old man (obi wan), etc...
I loved how there was a sort of flip in my thinking about IV,V,and IV after seeing III. I agree the story really was about Vader in the end, and how he does in the end fullfill the prophecy about him bringing balance to the force by choosing to go to the light side after falling to the dark.
Han and Leia strike me as an SEE-LIE activity pair. Chewbacca seems to be Han's ESI mirror. Luke, I'd type as some sort of Delta NF.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
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Luke: ISFp
Obi-Wan: INFp
Yoda: INTj
Darth Vader: ISTp
Emperor: INTp
Princess Leia: INFp
Lando: ESTp
C3PO: INFj
R2D2: ESFp
Han Solo: ISTp?
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Luke: INFp
Obi-Wan: INTj (Compared to Qui-Gon Jinn, otherwise, INFj is an option as well.)
Qui-Gon Jinn: INFj
Count Dooku: ISTj
Darth Maul: ISTp (hard to type, it's just a guess)
Yoda: INTj
Boba/Jango Fett: ISTp
Darth Vader: ISTj
Anakin: ENFj
Emperor: ENTj
Princess Leia: ENFp?
Lando: ESTp
C3PO: INFj
R2D2: ???
Han Solo: ISTp
Mace Windu: ESTj
Padme Amidala: INFp
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
yes, this, anyway I think obi wan more INFj than INTj, comparing to Yoda who is really more INTj. For princess leia I hesitate beetween IEI, IEE(-Fi) or EII... I dont remember darth maul saying something into the show, so typing is hard.Luke: INFp
Obi-Wan: INTj (Compared to Qui-Gon Jinn, otherwise, INFj is an option as well.)
Qui-Gon Jinn: INFj
Count Dooku: ISTj
Darth Maul: ISTp (hard to type, it's just a guess)
Yoda: INTj
Boba/Jango Fett: ISTp
Darth Vader: ISTj
Anakin: ENFj
Emperor: ENTj
Princess Leia: ENFp?
Lando: ESTp
C3PO: INFj
R2D2: ???
Han Solo: ISTp
Mace Windu: ESTj
Padme Amidala: INFp
C3PO: INFj >> lol
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
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Yeah, you could be right about this one. It's weird, he is one of the main characters and appears in every movie, but he's still hard to type. The constant development of his character might actually be the reason, maybe he changes too much throughout the series. However, in "Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace" I thought you could see the contrast between Obi-wan as a thinker and Qui-Gon as a feeling type.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Actually I would say that Qui Gonn seem ESE: he is archetypally Alpha, functioning within the boundaries of the Delta "system" but pushing to expand them without a drastic schism and having no problems disobeying directly, and I think EJ temperament works very well, especially considering Obi Wan IJ.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I was really let down when I opened this thread and read the OP.
I had entirely different expectations.
I thought this thread was exactly its opposite, I thought we were going to be assigned star wars personality types and was very enthused and ready.
How unrealistic of me.
Luke Skywalker: SEI-Fe 9w8 so/sx
Obi-Wan Kenobi: LII-Ne 6w5 so/sx
Qui-Gon Jinn: ESE-Fe 8w7 sx/so
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader: SEE-Se 8w7 sx/sp
Padme Amidala: IEI-Fe 3w4 sx/so
Emperor Palpatine: EIE-Ni 8w9 sp/so
Princess Leia: LSE-Te 1w9 so/sp
Han Solo: SEE-Se 7w8 sp/sx
Chewbacca: ESI-Se 6w5 sp/sx
C3PO: EII-Ne 1w2 so/sp
R2D2: Alpha Irrational
Yoda: SLI-Si 9w1 so/sp
Mace Windu: LSE-Te 8w7 so/sx
JarJar Binks: IEE-Ne 7w6 so/sx
Jaba the Hutt: ILI-Te 5w6 sp/so
Lando Calrissian: ESE-Si 3w2 sp/so
Personally I think these types are fairly consistent throughout the story.
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But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Well he seems generally sort of IJ, he's kind of always in the background and seems reliable. I don't think he can really be typed but I guess ESI just kind of makes sense with Solo as SEE.
I agree that he seems very internally conflicted, but I think that is more a result of sx/so stacking and living in an obviously trying time rather than introversion. I think he is obviously ethical and extroverted compared to Obi Wan: he takes the initiative, suggesting new "projects" and always being the first to put his personal spin on things; classic Alpha Extrovert, and he is obviously guided by his sense of personal ethics which is unconnected to the Republic or anyone around him, which smacks of Democratic ethics. IMO he is too daring, too much of a risk taker and a hot-shot to be Se PoLR at all; he is always improvising, changing plans mid-swing and coming up with something new on the fly, which is characteristic of strong Se; contrast to Obi-Wan, who appreciates this characteristic in the calculating Qui-Gon who is always on a mission and does the things he does for a very specific reason, but is totally unnerved by it in Anakin who seems to take more of a thrill from, and just naturally live in, that state of unbridled improvisation and "don't-give-a-fuck"ness.Regarding Qui-Gon Jinn: I think he seems too withdrawn and contemplative to be extrovert, and he's only following his own moral system.
On a related note, I think that Anakin and Obi-Wan as conflictors makes a lot of sense of why Anakin turns out the way he does. He loves Obi Wan and they are extremely good friends, but they represent to each other the kind of force in the universe that is responsible for things going wrong the way they are: to Obi-Wan, Anakin is reckless and ambitious, the kind of person without discipline or restraint, only looking out for his own good and taking what he wants; to Anakin, Obi-Wan is a bit of a drone, having independent thoughts and feelings but too afraid to act on them, blindly following the system and not thinking enough about what can be done to really start changing the way things are. Perhaps it was subconsciously his tense, demure, over-cautious mentor that drove him to take such radical actions and seek out the psychological contrast that ultimately leads to his siding with Palpatine.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
^ Those are good explanation. Qui-Gon really seems very proactive which matches better with extroversion. Also regarding Obi-Wan as INTj it makes sense. But don't you think Anakin and Vader get different types? Technically, they're the same person, but they seem to be very different.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Ith the best IMO.
Luke = kamangir
Obi-Wan = krae
Yoda = tcaud
Darth Vader = DeAnte
Emperor = k0rpsey
Princess Leia = glamourama
Lando = smccosker (Or that JWC3 dude)
C3P0 = Subterranean (Galen as C3P0's naughty alterego)
R2D2 = woofwoofl (wanted it to be me but felt weird to plug myself)
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Truth be told I really only ever identified with the Tusken Raiders.
C3PO = Uniden
Salacious Crumb = siuntal
Jarjar Binks = WA
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Howling, shooting, half-intelligent pack animals?
Well, my favourite characters are Jango/Boba Fett and Obi-Wan. The Fetts are interesting because they're intelligent individualists who always have a trick up their sleeves. Jango's people are a nation of mercenaries which is also pretty cool. Obi-Wan is not a flawless person, but he tries really hard to do the right thing. He is a Jedi VIP but is still humble enough not to be corrupted by his power. In the 2nd and 3rd episode you clearly see the huge differences between Anakin and Obi-Wan in which he proves the strength of his character in several situations. Anakin, on the other handside, is the character I disliked from the beginning because of his inflated ego.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer