Is there "the most gamma alpha" or "the most beta delta" for example?

[717495]

I mean, is that idea even possible? Or are alphas just alphas and a certain type wouldn't have a tendency to act like another quadra. I think it could be quite possible and could happen with a few types, but I can't put my finger on the explanation because all the functions positions are mirrored and there's no reference point. What do you think? Explain why not, or fill out some answers on this form and explain why you think this type is like that:

Most Beta Alpha:
Most Gamma Alpha:
Most Delta Alpha:
Most Alpha Beta:
Most Gamma Beta:
Most Delta Beta:
Most Alpha Gamma:
Most Beta Gamma:
Most Delta Gamma:
Most Alpha Delta:
Most Beta Delta:
Most Gamma Delta:

[1981slater]

most gamma-->beta: FDG

[Gilly]

I call most Alpha Beta

FDG is Gamma but he is probably the most Beta Gamma, so we have some crossover, heh.

[Khola aka Bee]

I call most Alpha Beta

FDG is Gamma but he is probably the most Beta Gamma, so we have some crossover, heh.

So that makes me most Beta Alpha?

Certified 4w3 XEI-Fe fence-sitter.

[Tom]

Binky is definitely the most alpha gamma.

UDP is Alpha, period.

[Gilly]

o.o, LSE? Interesting...I will think on this.

[Gilly]

I actually retract my previous claim; I am the most Delta Beta.

[Binky]

I actually retract my previous claim; I am the most Delta Beta.

No, starfall, redbaron, glam-0, and numbers all come before you. And probably others.

[Binky]

I am the most Alpha Gamma.

[717495]

I'm just referring to types. I couldn't give less a fuck about individuals.

[Warlord]

I'm just referring to types. I couldn't give less a fuck about individuals.

Yeah people resemble more the neighboring quadra that has their dominant function valued.

[Gilly]

No, starfall, redbaron, glam-0, and numbers all come before you. And probably others.

Ok numbers I will give you. Redbaron perhaps, but I think thats mostly because shes older. Not glam; she is more alpha. Starfall is basically IEI concentrate.

[Gilly]

You cant always get what you want

[Cyrano]

I mean, is that idea even possible? Or are alphas just alphas and a certain type wouldn't have a tendency to act like another quadra. I think it could be quite possible and could happen with a few types, but I can't put my finger on the explanation because all the functions positions are mirrored and there's no reference point. What do you think? Explain why not, or fill out some answers on this form and explain why you think this type is like that:

Most Beta Alpha:
Most Gamma Alpha:
Most Delta Alpha:
Most Alpha Beta:
Most Gamma Beta:
Most Delta Beta:
Most Alpha Gamma:
Most Beta Gamma:
Most Delta Gamma:
Most Alpha Delta:
Most Beta Delta:
Most Gamma Delta:

I'm Delta Delta.

[Xenith]

I think I might be pretty delta-ish for a beta, having been raised around deltas. I think this means I have used my super-ego functions a lot.

[chemical]

Based on http://www.socionics.us/theory/quadras.shtml
I have to say that it can only be degree of fit, not 100% fit to a quadra, except for some people. In reality people are a strange, giant combination of these pairings.
One has to go past tendency and into inherent valuation to even begin to isolate the final type.

As far as tendencies go, I think the intertype relations already get at this quite well, as these tend to point to the different attitudes people have about the different IE depending on their own IE.

The main thing to keep in mind with "the most X of the Y" is that this sort of thing probably happens when a type has to deal with a certain perspective it doesn't like to, and thus replaces one information element involved in that perspective with a preferable one.

So you could get a ESI who cannot deal with Ne/Ti who adopts a compromise, say given their least favorite here is Ne, they become more willing to entertain the Se/Ti point of view. It is less ethics-oriented, more logic-oriented.
This could bring about a relatively beta kind of delta.

This could also happen with a LII who finds the Se point of view unbearable and offsets it naturally with Ne, thus making allowance for the Fi-Ne point of view even if it isn't what they want to really focus on.

I don't think making a stable characterization will necessarily work though, namely making a stable statement that this type is truly the most beta of the delta's or such.

A general phenomenon though overall is that I can see with respect to one of the superego functions, seeking relief in a less difficult point of view, as well as with respect to one of the superid functions, being able to appreciate a viewpoint that is slightly different. This latter is the basis of the semi-duality idea for instance.

[chemical]

You could perhaps look at the DCNH system for this question actually, but the issue is it's unclear from an official standpoint to what extent you can just strengthen IE and arrive at the respective DCNH subtypes. You might need to strengthen them in specific ways (like not just strengthen Si/Ni for harmonizing, but do so towards aims that seem harmonizing-oriented).

There's also all the EM type business of tcaud which is unclear how much was derived in conjunction with Gulenko (who cares who derived what, if it adds and makes sense it's fair game).

I think much as with the original Jungian types, 4 functions being somewhat rankable in order of preference, you can have order of preference among the 4 quadras, but I'm not sure that is determined by your official type - it might just depend on an individual.

[717495]

though everyone might not agree on the extent, might not your POLR (and the POLR you Dual-seek, in a sense -- also note what is required to keep Conflictors diametrically opposite) sour relationships with other types who have or Dual-seek your base?

Yes, of course the base function isn't necessarily the most valued. If the creative function is the most valued, it becomes the subtype, not the base. For one's strong tendency for their base wouldn't materialize a strong value for it, just as one's strong tendency for the Id functions wouldn't materialize a strong value for them.