Post your MBTI type and Socionics type

[RSV3]

INTJ/LII

[JuJu]

ENFP and ENFj

[Jarno]

The results of the poll show that the correlation is evident.

[Enters Laughing]

The results of the poll show that the correlation is evident.

Not really..11 of the 20 people (out of the total of 28) who said that they were the same on the Thinking/Feeling axis could have said they were different on one of the other three dichotomies...also, the difference/same subtotals don't add up to 28...which means in addition there are some people who are unsure if they score the same on a particular dichotomy.

[Expat]

The poll asks about correspondences in 4 dichotomies.

~75% of posters reported correspondence in at least one of those 4.

As far as the results go, statistically, there is no correlation whatsoever.

[Jarno]

~75% of posters reported correspondence in at least one of those 4.

As far as the results go, statistically, there is no correlation whatsoever.

Your assumption in incorrect. ~50% means no correlation.

There are multiple options possible.

So in this actual case it's even possible that ~75% of the posters reported correspondence to all of the 4 dichotomies.

I wonder what numbers you would like to see to call it a correlation.

[717495]

Plus, what about the people who are basing their typing off previous experiences with MBTI, who actually aren't typing themselves accurately?

Look at this:

Two of my friends:

INTJ : ESTp
INxP : ESTj

Yep.

That's what I'd like to call socionics at the end of the day.

[Enters Laughing]

well you're probably not going to infer a 1:1 correlation. but if there was "no correlation", wouldn't one see convergences around (or slightly below because of nonresponses) 50%? the poll accounts for both "correspondence" and "noncorrespondence".

If there was no correlation whatsoever, then you'd expect 100% of people to vote "difference" for each dichotomy, and 0% to vote "same".

If everybody identified in both systems with three out of four dichotomies, you'd get on average 75% of people voting "same" for each dichotomy, while having no apparent 1:1 correlation between the two systems (i.e. people having the 'same' type in both).

The average for people voting "same" is about 77%...and this does not take into account people who voted for neither "difference" or "same" for a particular dichotomy.

[Trevor]

If there was no correlation whatsoever, then you'd expect 100% of people to vote "difference" for each dichotomy, and 0% to vote "same".

That would be negative correlation. That is different from "no correlation".

[Enters Laughing]

That would be negative correlation. That is different from "no correlation".

I don't believe you can have negative correlation in this case. You could if you were comparing two linear variables such as weight and height, but not if you were asking if there was a correlation between two systems (a 'yes' or 'no' answer)...in which case, it would go from a correlation of 0 to 100%.

[BlackCat]

INFP : ILI

[electric sheep]

I was first INTP back when I was a teenager, but after a few years I started scoring higher on both F and J. It's kinda weird I'm not really sure what I am anymore.

[DirectorAbbie]

ISTJ - ESTj

[jimbo]

I remember reading about myers briggs once and reading that in that system it is the extroverted function that determines the J/P. I didn't really think they had functions in that way. But anyways what I read was interesting.

For example an INFP in socionics has an extroverted judjing function. Thus in myers briggs this is suppsed to correlate to INFJ. ENFJ in socionics is ENFJ in myers briggs as it has an extroverted judging function also. ENFP (socionics) correlates to ENFP (myers briggs) because of the introverted judging function, so INFJ correlates to INFP.

So when changing from socionics to myers briggs all introverts change the P to a J or vice versa. All extroverts stay the same.

Could well be a load of nonsense but interesting none the less.

[Jarno]

I remember reading about myers briggs once and reading that in that system it is the extroverted function that determines the J/P. I didn't really think they had functions in that way. But anyways what I read was interesting.

For example an INFP in socionics has an extroverted judjing function. Thus in myers briggs this is suppsed to correlate to INFJ. ENFJ in socionics is ENFJ in myers briggs as it has an extroverted judging function also. ENFP (socionics) correlates to ENFP (myers briggs) because of the introverted judging function, so INFJ correlates to INFP.

So when changing from socionics to myers briggs all introverts change the P to a J or vice versa. All extroverts stay the same.

Could well be a load of nonsense but interesting none the less.

switching j/p is an old myth.

MBTI starts out using the right type descriptions, for example the mbti 'ISTP' and the socionics 'ISTp' are both called 'the mechanic' or 'master of tools'.
So there is clearly a 1 on 1 correlation.

But MBTI goes wrong when it tries to apply functions to the different types. Since they have this crazy reasoning for finding the leading type of introverts, and next to that they only have 4 functions in total. So it's best to ignore mbti functions completely since they only confuse things and they aren't used that much anyways. While the mbti descriptions are sufficiently accurate and the mbti dichotomies only differ slightly in their definitions with socionics ones.

[greed]

MBTI ENTP, often testing also as ENFP. I also very often test as a J. So I bounce around between four types.

I don't like MBTI tests

Definite Socionics ENTp, though.

[Doppelgänger]

MBTI: IxTP
Socionics: IxTj

The ISTP and SLI descriptions fit me best though, I think.

[Expat]

In MBTI I test as INTJ most of the time.

[xerx]

MBTT - INTP
Socionics - ILE > ILI > IEE > IEI