IEIs/INFps and susceptibility to religious cults

[Muddy]

I generally find people of this type to be ok, except when it comes to this.


There is one person I know who is a Jehovah's Witness and she is pretty much unable to separate her own thoughts and views from those that she was indoctrinated into by her parents and religion. Her religion pretty much dictates all aspects of her life and she refuses to listen to any evidence that contradicts her beliefs. I generally don't care what people choose believe, but her excessive bible quoting and refusal to do any activities not approved by her religion irritates me.

Is this a typical trait of IEIs? If so, what is that best way to deal with them when the go in full fanaticism mode?

[Persephone]

Obscurantism and self righteousness are not necessarily type related. My aunt has drown into a cult lately and I type her Se lead. The best way is to leave fanatics alone with their fanatism.

[Olimpia]

I am not susceptible to religious cults at all. I am not even susceptible to more "regular" religious practices.

Having said that, I know of an LIE-Ni Sx/So individual who used to be in a cult, and an IEI-Fe woman who just recently started to distance herself from one.

It seems to be largely a matter of where you grew up, with what kinds of people around, whether you are more susceptible to a belief in God in general, and whether you crave being part of a close-knit community. Those are the main factors, I think. I don't see it being particularly related with IEI. Even so, ego or "just" valuing types (I'd say HA + 6w7 is more susceptible, actually, ime) with that particular kind of background may be more susceptible to it... But I am not too certain of that.

Most IEIs I have known were rather "spiritual" and into more New Age or Wiccan practices (the former typically being Sx/Sp and the latter Sp/Sx), but not cult members. And some IEIs were simply atheist or agnostic like myself.

P.S: @ OP, I get the impression the person you are talking about may actually be SEI instead. Just a hunch.

[Muddy]

P.S: @ OP, I get the impression the person you are talking about may actually be SEI instead. Just a hunch.

Its possible. I was wondering if this was more leading Ni with Te polr or both weak Ni and Te blocked together.

[summerprincess]

I think Delta NFs are probably more likely to get culty than IEI. Personally I always look at things from a multitude of perspectives (did not used to as a child but as I have grown this has matured) so for example I read stuff about many different religions and if I see something I think looks sus or "fake" will try to fact-check it and make an educated opinion. I feel like people in cults lack this critical thinking (smtimes by choice.) One place where I have less critical thinking is politics but even then my mind is becoming more open to possibilities. So yeah, IEI & EIE --> mystical, magical thinking, open mindedness. Not so much cults and locking yourself down in one frame of mind. My EIE mom is very Catholic but she has her own love of mysticism and a lot of skepticism about the church.

[Pookie]

I really don't think so. Weak Ni tends to have the reputation for falling for crap like that. Ni HA are attracted to people who connect dots and can fall into conspiracy theory nonsense if misled(misinformed). I think that's quite similar, outsourcing the thinking to people who reveal the truth to them. And Ni PolR is the most likely to go along with what they were raised around, without really questioning it.

But then again, IEI's can be absolute trainwrecks mentally. The whole so open minded their brain falls out thing.

[Aylen]

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by anonymous_person2063 January 07, 2010

[Muddy]

Hmmm yeah, after I think about it does seem like ESE and SEI are probably more prone to this then IEI. I could see an LSI/SLE perhaps occasionally getting into them, as a means of controlling others and setting down rules. NFs might get into occasionally as well if they think the religion as a whole is beneficial towards society.

[inaLim]

My EII sister came very close to getting pulled into some kind of christian cult group by her SLI friend.

[AWellArmedCat]

If it's even type related at all (and for the record I don't think it is - cults use an array of highly effective brainwashing tactics to get and keep members) I imagine IEIs would be somewhat less likely to get drawn into cults than average, not more so. It could be my enneagram 4 talking, but I don't tend to think of IEIs as really being "followers." Because of 4D Ni + Creative Fe we might be more likely to start a cult than average though lol (though that's probably more likely gonna be EIEs)

[Northstar]

IEI are skeptical of things outside of their own worldview and need logical persuasion to make changes to it, so no. C-D types are most likely to join cults, with maybe the exception of ILE.

[Braingel]

An IEI 6, maybe. IEI 4’s definitely not as much, unless maybe they are the cult starter. EIE is more likely.

[Number 9 large]

Is this a typical trait of IEIs? If so, what is that best way to deal with them when the go in full fanaticism mode?

no, my dad is LSE and he is the same. its just how religious people cling to their beliefs no matter what.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Not really at all. 4D Ni ego allows people to easily see through charlatan cult-leader douchebags tbh. This goes up there to me with 'ESEs don't like to be touched.' Is it Opposite Month or something?

Yeah I'm too busy trying to protect ESEs from falling for religious/cult scams myself falling for them myself.

IEIs do have weaker logical functions (stronger Fe/Fi/Ni/Ne but weaker Se/Si/Te/Ti) - so I think that often translates to appearing more gullible than we really are or something. And Te polr I think often makes you 'stuck' in a place longer than you should be in it - but IEI is too busy exposing the cult for what it is than falling for anything they are doing and being in it longer just gives them even more information to use against the people and free the masses lol.

[Rusal]

Something tells me IEIs might fall momentarily for a cult if the perfected image or aspiration it projects resonates with a Ni based reverie. This’ll happen as long as the ‘vision’ of the cult is distant enough for the person to entertain it in their head and contact with people of the organization is reduced to the minimum. It’ll die out when and if they move onto a different fantasy. Cyclothymia. What they might have is a great deal of deference for religious tradition if not for anything else then for what other people might have against it. IEIs trust that people have been more or less the same 2,000 years ago and now, so they give some sort of credit to religion vs. what a Ti-lead might think they've figured out. An unhealthy one might fall in a cult a) desperation b) Ni and Ti mob. trying to dig deeper. But even then, unlikely it would happen.