Explain your PoLR with examples thread

[1981slater]

My Point of Least Resistance: Introverted Feeling

We are having fun. Everybody is laughing. I'd even say we are happy. Then it comes: too many different backgrounds, too many different personalities. I crack a joke and I unintentionally offend someone. I didn't want to be mean, but...who's gonna believe me? Being politically correct is so exhausting...there is nothing I can do to fix things now...I have lost another friend...forever...I'm sorry

[1981slater]

I hope you're not saying Fi = politically correct. Or is this a joke?

I'm serious. is much more than that...but it's my polr after all.

[1981slater]

They sound like shitty friends if upholding political correctness was more important to them than your relationship.

Friends and *potential* friends

[Gilly]

Im all set to go out, I can feel that today is going to be a good day, im on time for work, everything is in place, and im ready to take on the world; Im even wearing my favorite shirt today...except theres a smudge on it. Did I wear this yesterday? Better change shirts...but what else goes with these pants? Fuck it, i'll just throw something on...and that messes up my ponytail? Into the bathroom, get hands a little wet, smooth it out...and, dammit, i got water on my pants...oh well, to late to change now, but GOD thats annoying ...kind of feeling irked, because now i might be a little late, so im rushing out the door, but i parked my bike awkwardly because i was tired last night, and i have to position myself to get it out of this cramped ass apartment and FUCK i stubbed my toe on the door, and now im pissed off, in pain, mismatched, and late for fucking work.

[DirectorAbbie]

So this is a discussion on polr? Okay, mine's . The concept of time is the easiest way to make me stressful. I hate being timed, unless I know I have more than enough time to finish the task. I have a flexible plan for about two weeks in advance, and a rigid plan for about three days in advance. If something messes that up, my can't function and my kicks in. I like change, but only when it's reversible. I don't like aging because I can never be seven again.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I romantically dream that I can accomplish something. Then when I actually do the task I'm fucking at a loss for how little I know. People tell me interesting detailed facts and stuff, but they just go over my head. If there's no meaning in it for me, I can't really process the information well. Even something as simple as 'what street is this?' Who cares what street it is! Am I in love or not, is my vibrational escrow or whatever gayness, is that lined up? Are we emotionally connecting in a positive way? That's the only thing that matters. I have to plan every little thing out to the last detail if I want to succeed at something. Accomplishing things is so difficult, even basic stuff that really is no big deal. I do like to be told to do somethings (within reason) as I feel like I have a purpose now.

[Trevor]

For example: I'm driving and I barely pay attention on traffic. Not that I don't want to, I simply can not, and don't give a shit. I'm all cool, relaxed, ready to fall asleep.

[Warlord]

My Fe PoLR: I lack vibrational escrow gayness

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Hahahaha.

[Mediator Kam]

Why does everything need to be perfect? Why is materialism so rampant in our society? Why can't swings be the national toy? Because they aren't efficient enough at causing giggles? Please, spare me such exacting words, and allow me to flow in peace.

[duality is cringe]

With Fe as my vulnerable function, you'll find it hard to find out how I'm doing or what I'm thinking of (especially emotionally), whether you look at my face or ask me. I have no want for sharing my feelings, and will only shun you if you try to force them out of me if I don't trust you and you don't share yours and trust me. I will seldom show or even feel excitement in public, partially due to social insecurity, so others will think I don't care about what is happening around me, even if I do. My natural and most-worn face expression has time and again made family and friends ask me, "are you mad about something?".

A concrete example was on Saint Patrick's Day this year. I played with the local pipeband on stage, which turned out to be quite good fun. My sister (no type opinion yet), who was watching, asked me right afterwards: "why weren't you smiling while you were up there playing? Everyone else was!" as if she was embarassed of me. I told her I'll have any face expression I want, but it annoyed me the rest of the night to think about my inability.

Another example is when I was asked to dance with two girls in a dance club, but couldn't at all feel good about it and probably wasn't smiling either, so I stopped and left the scene.

I feel just that: vulnerable. I hate it and would like to develop it. Learning about Socionics has so far helped me identify the problem quite well. I don't think I could attempt to explain it a year ago.

Very good post and description of devalued - vulnerable. I won't go into descriptive paragraphs of specific encounters, not now at least, but I will note my different reactions to different manifestations of .

/ demonstrations just cause me to freeze up like a brick wall. I appreciate the intended overture of friendliness, no doubt informing such behavior, but I'm unable to respond in a way that is satisfying to the ego. Instead, I'll start looking for the nearest exit out of that conversation or physical space. My lack of comfort with receiving this element often makes me feel socially retarded (not that I am) in the context of neither appreciating nor knowing how to react to such "positive" aspects of social interaction, which most others appear to enjoy on some level. I'll also begin to worry that my lack of reponsiveness may be misconstrued as hostility.

/ demonstrations often feel inappropiate and invasive, like the other person has no right to attempt to "manipulate" me in this way. Unless it's in the form of a televised speech by Ronald Reagan or somebody, the more "intensely" it manifests (particularly in person) and the more reaction it appears to demand, then the more "negative" it comes off and I feel totally "defenseless" against such an overstepping of boundaries. If it happens to take place within the context of a group of people, it's something I feel can be "seen right through" and perhaps potentially "dangerous" if it continues for an extended period of time.

[717495]

With Fe as my vulnerable function, you'll find it hard to find out how I'm doing or what I'm thinking of (especially emotionally), whether you look at my face or ask me. I have no want for sharing my feelings, and will only shun you if you try to force them out of me if I don't trust you and you don't share yours and trust me. I will seldom show or even feel excitement in public, partially due to social insecurity, so others will think I don't care about what is happening around me, even if I do. My natural and most-worn face expression has time and again made family and friends ask me, "are you mad about something?".

A concrete example was on Saint Patrick's Day this year. I played with the local pipeband on stage, which turned out to be quite good fun. My sister (no type opinion yet), who was watching, asked me right afterwards: "why weren't you smiling while you were up there playing? Everyone else was!" as if she was embarassed of me. I told her I'll have any face expression I want, but it annoyed me the rest of the night to think about my inability.

Another example is when I was asked to dance with two girls in a dance club, but couldn't at all feel good about it and probably wasn't smiling either, so I stopped and left the scene.

I feel just that: vulnerable. I hate it and would like to develop it. Learning about Socionics has so far helped me identify the problem quite well. I don't think I could attempt to explain it a year ago.

Yay. I don't have to express myself now.

[marooned]

Im all set to go out, I can feel that today is going to be a good day, im on time for work, everything is in place, and im ready to take on the world; Im even wearing my favorite shirt today...except theres a smudge on it. Did I wear this yesterday? Better change shirts...but what else goes with these pants? Fuck it, i'll just throw something on...and that messes up my ponytail? Into the bathroom, get hands a little wet, smooth it out...and, dammit, i got water on my pants...oh well, to late to change now, but GOD thats annoying ...kind of feeling irked, because now i might be a little late, so im rushing out the door, but i parked my bike awkwardly because i was tired last night, and i have to position myself to get it out of this cramped ass apartment and FUCK i stubbed my toe on the door, and now im pissed off, in pain, mismatched, and late for fucking work.

This is not a critical statement. But I was wondering why this is PoLR.

I would write about my own PoLR but I don't have one anymore. :tongue:

[Gilly]

This is not a critical statement. But I was wondering why this is PoLR.

I am easily frustrated by small physical details; I usually don't focus on stuff like that, but when I notice, it really irks me, especially when it's something to do with my physical appearance (which I am very self-conscious about), and a lot of the time I end up screwing myself up worse than I started out because I take it too far: trying to clean a little smudge on a shirt, fixing my ponytail and , etc. Also I am pretty clumsy, especially when I get frustrated, and so little things like this tend to spiral out of control, as I tried to demonstrate, and I end up wasting time and getting pissed off trying to fix trivial details. And, like I said, it's usually regarding my appearance.

[jughead]

Wikisocion has some examples of each types polr, how it feels, what it looks like etc. Is there a more complete list, and if not we should post our own descriptions of each one.

Current wikisocion examples.
Some examples:

* A type with Fe PoLR does not see the point of activities revolving around excessive displays of emotion or behavior that does not reach a concrete or tangible outcome. They would rather keep conversations serious and to the point, for he/she is overwhelmed by such emotional expression, making it quite difficult to express themselves. In social interactions they will make a serious effort to reduce their level of emotive expressiveness such as being too joyful or sad, believing that showing these signs will make them vulnerable to be influenced by others. They don't hold quite a high standard for how people as a group feel about something (even if outnumbered by many when making a personal decision), and instead value situations where they can speak their own subjective opinions and feelings freely.

* A type with Ne PoLR has a difficult time understanding ideas that seem new or novel, especially when it has no tangible effect on their lives. Leaving little to chance, they are able to plan out their lives for years ahead of time. This results in difficulties handling unexpected problems in their lives that put a halt on their usual pursuits, and they tend to fear all the possible "what-if's" when those problems prevent them from seeing a clear future. When unsure about something, these types can either avoid making any changes at all or making too quick and reckless of a decision, either of which resulting in missed opportunities.

* A type with Si PoLR has little patience for sitting back and focusing on how they can physically better themselves in the moment, especially if they are involved in what they view as a very important matter. They would much rather try to act on their long-term priorities instead of their physical comfort, resulting in problems such as an inability to be aware or care about present realities, failure to realize the physical or mental strains they are placing on themselves, and being generally unable to relax and take the focus off of their long-term pursuits.

* A type with Te PoLR tends to reject facts given from a source which they are personally unfamiliar with, firmly believing they can make their own decisions that are solely based on their own perspective and reasoning about it. They will tend to become defensive when questioned about their rationale or efficiency, pointing out that there is no such thing as objective "fact". Also, these types experience a significant level of stress in tending to day-to-day must do's and responsibilities in life (like routine maintenance or working productively), manifesting itself as a general laziness or hyper-diligence.

EDIT:I don't think this would go under the wikisocion restoration thread beacuse this type of description didn't exist beforehand, although one could have taken each types polr description and thrown it on her. However these descriptions are more specific and different than the ones from each type and apply to both types with this polr.

[redbaron]

A type with Te PoLR tends to reject facts given from a source which they are personally unfamiliar with, firmly believing they can make their own decisions that are solely based on their own perspective and reasoning about it. They will tend to become defensive when questioned about their rationale or efficiency, pointing out that there is no such thing as objective "fact". Also, these types experience a significant level of stress in tending to day-to-day must do's and responsibilities in life (like routine maintenance or working productively), manifesting itself as a general laziness or hyper-diligence.

kind of embarrassing how accurate this is.

[Creepy-female]

Where are the other ones?

[jughead]

thats what i was asking for.....these are all from this article here
Functions - Wikisocion
the ones listed under the element descriptions are not as concise nor as well worded.

[xerx]

A type with Te PoLR tends to reject facts given from a source which they are personally unfamiliar with, firmly believing they can make their own decisions that are solely based on their own perspective and reasoning about it. They will tend to become defensive when questioned about their rationale or efficiency, pointing out that there is no such thing as objective "fact". Also, these types experience a significant level of stress in tending to day-to-day must do's and responsibilities in life (like routine maintenance or working productively), manifesting itself as a general laziness or hyper-diligence.

I mostly agree with this one, except IME they're not lazy about stuff that matters to them. Some work very hard on their creative pursuits - they're not dilettantes. Some also work hard if they feel it's a social obligation (related to their image; or not), which depends on the person.

I like that the descriptions point out that a PoLR can swing in radically opposite directions. Either completely for (but without providing qualification) or completely against.

[anou]

I think your thread is a good idea, Jughead. I like your descriptions, because they complement the wikisocion articles in a way, by real life experiences.
It would be interesting to read polr descriptions of the other function elements, too...

[Morcheeba]

si polr really resonates with me, I have a hard time with the here and now, but I know what I will be doing 10 yrs. from now.

[crazedrat]

Pretty good descriptions.

[Beautiful sky]

si polr really resonates with me, I have a hard time with the here and now, but I know what I will be doing 10 yrs. from now.

Si polr as EIE...polr is in the 4th spot on model A. Si polar is not here and now.

[1981slater]

I asked Ashton:

describe the polr of LIEs

He replied:

Si PoLR = having an aneurysm listening to people monologue about chiffon curtains...and then slaying them for being so drearily boring

LOL

I want more examples, please

[1981slater]

Fi polr: as Barney Stinson would say "When I am sad, I stop being sad and be AWESOME instead."

[The Ineffable]

Fi polr: as Barney Stinson would say "When I am sad, I stop being sad and be AWESOME instead."

Example of my Fi-PoLR: that quote is bullshit. It is so subjective and void of content that one can't even know what should be done about it. Becoming uh... "awesome"? Oh yeah, it competes for the WTF of the day.

[Taknamay]

Well, not sure about this, but...

Often times, when I am walking from one place to another, someone will be in my way. If they are talking to someone or doing something, I end up taking a route completely different than the one I planned because I really don't want to bother them.

[Radio]

> Bus about to leave.

"should I get on or not should I get on or not should I get on or not FUCK"

> Bus left.

[April]

Well, not sure about this, but...

Often times, when I am walking from one place to another, someone will be in my way. If they are talking to someone or doing something, I end up taking a route completely different than the one I planned because I really don't want to bother them.

So does anyone know if mine actually describes Se PoLR?

My LII boyfriend has the same problem. Sometimes he won't pick up an item at the grocery store because somebody is standing in front of the item for too long.

I don't have this problem, though. I just say "excuse me" and go about my business.

[HERO]

Well, not sure about this, but...

Often times, when I am walking from one place to another, someone will be in my way. If they are talking to someone or doing something, I end up taking a route completely different than the one I planned because I really don't want to bother them.

I often do similar things. I guess I like to have my own space and (generally) don't like to take up other people's space or get too close to them, so (and I'm trying to change this 'cause even my Mom hates it) when I'm walking on the sidewalk for example, and other people are approaching or whatever, I would often start walking on the edge of the road closest to the sidewalk for a bit.

I usually do similar kinds of things at grocery stores, etc. If there are (a lot of) people in a certain area, I go/walk somewhere else. If anything, I think it's related more to being Intuitive (and/or Introverted?).

[IEI]

Well, not sure about this, but...

Often times, when I am walking from one place to another, someone will be in my way. If they are talking to someone or doing something, I end up taking a route completely different than the one I planned because I really don't want to bother them.

Awww. That's so nice.

[Simon Ssmall]

Fi polr: as Barney Stinson would say "When I am sad, I stop being sad and be AWESOME instead."

Example of my Fi-PoLR: that quote is bullshit. It is so subjective and void of content that one can't even know what should be done about it. Becoming uh... "awesome"? Oh yeah, it competes for the WTF of the day.

How on earth a quote like that is void of content. Do you need steps on how to become awesome? Sadness is internal state of mind (and so is awesomeness) that you can shift.

[1981slater]

How on earth a quote like that is void of content. Do you need steps on how to become awesome? Sadness is internal state of mind (and so is awesomeness) that you can shift.

INVENTOR (Ne-ILE) example: 1981slater

Give the impression that they’re flying in the clouds, may appear childish/naïve. A socially adept conversationalist; read much and are inquisitive, willingly discuss new information with associates and are interested in their opinion. Their seemingly shy demeanor combines with coolness and obstinacy when they begin to defend their point of view. They like to discuss but rarely ever end these disputes in conflict. Often smile at associates without need of an occasion. Use an identical smile when they speak about both, ridiculous and serious, subject matter. Attempt being kind to all and do not take personal offense to remarks. In employment they are patient and, despite forgetfulness, tend to finish work which interests them. Gestures and speech seem either slowed down or accelerated. Pose with ease, appear absent-minded, gait and movements seem uncertain/weak-willed.

SELECTOR (Ti-ILE) example: The Ineffable

The logical subtype tries to project the impression of a serious person. Can be sharp and, from time to time, even inconsiderate. They are self-assured and speak quickly, usually with a categorical tone. Are unduly categorical in their judgments and tend to impose their opinion on others. Sometimes appears energetic and self-confident; are impatient and cannot always wait for a speaker to finish before interrupting. Often take great new interests and try to find these a practical embodiment; will actively and vigorously defend their interests but after they flare up and offend someone they will consciously make note and try to correct their position. Very ambitious and prone to take offense to mere trifles, however, after a while will again return to an affable and benevolent state. Behaviors are unpredictable and full of contrast. Appear tenacious, gait and gestures seem confident but are poorly coordinated. Pose without restraint, capable of quickly closing a distance, may embrace or kiss the interlocutor.

[The Ineffable]

How on earth a quote like that is void of content. Do you need steps on how to become awesome? Sadness is internal state of mind (and so is awesomeness) that you can shift.

I understand what you mean, but sadness has a reason, while getting "awesome" just out of the void sounds to me like fooling yourself, some sort of forced mantra. I mean okay, I do great things and I'm awesome, but when I'm sad - usually because I have a bad or unsuccessful day - then can I suddenly become great just like that, without considering what I'm doing out there, in the real world? Why then am I sad in the first place?

[Leader]

Fi polr: as Barney Stinson would say "When I am sad, I stop being sad and be AWESOME instead."

I can agree with this too.

[Galen]

Ti PoLR: I'm still stuck on world 3 of Spacechem.

[force my hand]

Guess The POLR:

-You've managed to babble non-stop for the last 10 minutes and still have yet to say something worth listening to.

-I'm going to vehemently argue with you about how much I don't want to argue

-What do you mean my dress pants are too short? The guy at the store said they had excellent tailoring!

-Excuse me... psyche! Get the fuck out of my way, LOL.

[Morcheeba]

Guess The POLR:

-You've managed to babble non-stop for the last 10 minutes and still have yet to say something worth listening to.

-I'm going to vehemently argue with you about how much I don't want to argue

-What do you mean my dress pants are too short? The guy at the store said they had excellent tailoring!

-Excuse me... psyche! Get the fuck out of my way, LOL.

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[1981slater]

Guess The POLR:

-You've managed to babble non-stop for the last 10 minutes and still have yet to say something worth listening to.

-I'm going to vehemently argue with you about how much I don't want to argue

-What do you mean my dress pants are too short? The guy at the store said they had excellent tailoring!

-Excuse me... psyche! Get the fuck out of my way, LOL.

Fe or Fi
Ti
Ti
Ne?????

[Leader]

My Fi-Polr..something like:

*Agee recieves gift from person A*

Agee: "Eehhh...um, yeah whatever..." *dry cough*

Agee Thinking: Hehehe, aww thats sweet!

*Agee doesn't receive gift from person B*

Agee: "......Oh..okay..well its the thought that counts." *Staleface*

Agee Thinking: Oh..okay, its like that? You don't like me?! You CHEAP BATCH!!!