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    Default ILIs-INTps what is your current job/occupation or major?

    Since I am quitting my job once again, I'm curious what kind of jobs and studies the ILI's on this forum do at this moment.

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    Hey Jarno, i'm not an INTp, but I wanted to say good luck with your new career.

    I know an INTp who is a science teacher, and another one who is the sole IT person for a small company. He is a quiet fellow, just maintains the software and hardware, he rarely has to meet with clients in his day job. In his spare time he does some self employed work doing web sites for people. He takes a fraction of the money companies would charge, but it is still a good earnings booster for him.

    I also know a retired INTp who used to run a big office in the financial sector.

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    Hey Jarno, i'm not an INTp, but I wanted to say good luck with your new career.

    I know an INTp who is a policeman.

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    INTp composer here. I write symphonic scores for movies and personal expression of my imagination. I'm pretty sure I can make a career out of it, because I've been told I am very talented by everyone I decide to brag out keys infront of, though I'm not reknown, quite young, and have yet to go to school. I have never tried to show off anything to anyone really. Every piece given away has been written for movies and I'm trying to stay anonymous for the time being because fame will surprise me too much.

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    Stop lying, it's okay if you work at a fast food restaurant.

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    I got this "diabolical mastermind"-thing going on, in my secret lair.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    im going to be a private investor. im not going to work, im going to play the stock market and get rich. i can't hold out a structured job because i hate every form of useful work.

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    i'm currently unemployed, but probably going to work at a stock trade company.

    I used to work in the insurance branch. But that sucked.

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    Maybe it's that I'm still young and immature, but this whole persona of INTp jobs, involving business and managing people, seems somewhat out of my area of expertise, and rather quite reality based. Then again I'm not underestimating my skills, I'm just not very "out-there" and business or job oriented. I've never been that interested, even though I used to create some of my own businesses as a child and interested in architecture and home-sale, with a personal mentality in mind, nothing so widespread. I've never pictured myself as the one behind the operation. I'm probably just being immature like always. Afraid of reality. I have to breech my walls and face reality.

    So given this comment and my concern, give me some history on your career resume, what got you into your career and so on. I'd like to hear what you have to say from a personal perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by betterthandead View Post
    Stop lying, it's okay if you work at a fast food restaurant.
    No I really am a composer. I guess I should be grateful for having a quite rare ear. I've worked at roundtable, but pathetically sucked at paying attention, doing chores, even talking with people. It's so physically demanding.

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    Default Possible careers/occupations for ILIs-INTps

    All should center around the basic combination of or trend-ful speculation + practical logic.

    Marketing Research Analysis
    Internal Auditor
    Accounting
    History
    Economy
    Stock broker/Private stock trader

    Any more specialized areas?

    EDIT:
    Philosophy
    Psychology
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    do what this guy did:


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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    I think with valued Fi, many go for a more artistic bent. Many I know are interested in music, writing, philosophy, and the like. It's really a matter of what interests the individual and then putting their ego IMs into action and so interpreting their interests in their own cognitive voice. Oh, and psychology is one where I see a lot. I really find them everywhere, but I guess I listed what I did because of common interests.
    Yea philosophy and psychology are easily the best pick when it comes to interests, but I think they also bring the most skepticism about the future when it comes to finances.

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    Right place at the right time..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    All should center around the basic combination of or trend-ful speculation + practical logic.

    Marketing Research Analysis
    Internal Auditor
    Accounting
    History
    Economy
    Stock broker/Private stock trader

    Any more specialized areas?

    EDIT:
    Philosophy
    Psychology
    When you say psychology do you mean more of the therapy, research, or application in the business world? (or something entirely else)
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    Right place at the right time..
    No way. He's been actively at it throughout his life. There was no magical oppurtunity or lucky moment. Just talent, effort and commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    No way. He's been actively at it throughout his life. There was no magical oppurtunity or lucky moment. Just talent, effort and commitment.
    Yep, he's the master, though he must inevatably have had some luck, cause there are more people as good as him, and when everything else is equal, luck is the determining factor.

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    The Socionist: Socionics and Careers

    I'll start off this topic with a question: Which of the following would provide the greatest assistance when making a career choice?

    a) a socionic type test
    b) the Myers-Briggs Type Inventory
    c) the Keirsey Temperament Sorter
    d) a career preference test

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Accounting
    All accountants that I know are ISTj.

    Because it's accurate work, which is what ISTj's excel at and maybe even like to do.
    Also the calculations is something they like.

    Some ILI"s are mathematicians I think. For the rest the list is correct.

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    I think part of it depends a whole lot on what you want from a career.

    There's a difference between just wanting to make a living and wanting a fulfilling career. I want the latter, and therefore my possible paths include

    -psychologist/therapist
    -artist
    -novelist

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    stevENTj,

    Not sure how far you came along in your research for systems engineer or where you are located but wanted to suggest Arinc as a source for information http://jobs.arinc.com for ILI career possibilities.

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    According to Reinin you want a career that fulfills the creative function, protects the polr, and satisfies the suggestive function. For ILIs that sounds like a career in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumer1an View Post
    According to Reinin you want a career that fulfills the creative function, protects the polr, and satisfies the suggestive function. For ILIs that sounds like a career in business.
    Use this handy guide to choose the correct career:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lise View Post
    stevENTj,

    Not sure how far you came along in your research for systems engineer or where you are located but wanted to suggest Arinc as a source for information http://jobs.arinc.com for ILI career possibilities.
    Thanks for the tip...

    I think a buddy or two of mine might have ended up at Arinc after the implosion at my last company. I had to take a few months off from my job hunt to tend to a very sick family member, but ended up getting something lined up in April and finally started in July. Didn't end up moving to systems, but took a really good job in my field based more on location than anything else. My commute is a whole 5 minutes now. Not too many people in the DC area can claim that. The savings in gas alone is gonna be a grand or two per year, not to mention quality of life improvements. Most of the other jobs I was looking at would have involved 45min to 1hr commutes each way. Some of those jobs might have been a bit cooler or sexier, but considering what I've been through with my sick family member I'd much rather be closer to home. The new job is awesome, a nice promotion, and a good 20-25% increase vs where I was before all things considered. Couldn't be happier, and really do need to count my blessings.
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    My best friend is an ILI and he's an embalmer. Recently got certified. Seems like the right kind of job for certain ILIs in that it's peaceful and it pays well.
    Probably ILI, or IE I/EIE/EII. PM me if you have ideas about my type! Ennagram 2w3 7w8 1w9.

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    SOCIONICS DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY! GOODNIGHT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    An ILI friend does amateur standup, and I've considered getting into both mortuary science and Aubrey Plaza.
    AT THE SAME TIME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    AT THE SAME TIME!
    redundancy whoosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by exitmusic View Post
    redundancy whoosh
    Through the magic of duality or some shit the implicit is actualized.

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    My book gives the following suggestions:

    ILI need to be in a career that allows them to develop, analyze and critique new ideas. That is why you like being here.
    A career that is challenging and deals with complex problems where they may try unconventional approaches and take risks to find the best solution.
    Where they can work independently to have quiet and private time to concentrate and complete their thinking process.
    Something that lets them set and maintain their won high standards (being a critical and analytical type).
    Work in a flexible and unstructured environment.
    other things if you want to email me I'll give you.

    Computer/Technology
    Are you good at this and do you have acquired skills in this department is my first question.

    Health Care/Technical
    Do you have interest in this, if yes, I have several options that you may study into.
    Pharmacy
    Physicians Assistant is a great option for an ILI, especially one who works in Endocrinology.

    Professional/Business
    If you have interest in banking, teller would be a great starting point for this. Go apply at a bank.
    There are other options that are universally comfortable for anyone in this department.

    Academic
    Take any field you love and go become a teacher in higher level
    Philosophy
    Psychology
    Quantum Physics

    Creative fields
    Designer of objects
    Artist
    Musician
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    My comments on this thread earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoutbox
    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:38 AM
    Invisible did you see my post in your thread?

    InvisibleJim Today 06:39 AM
    Time get out of bed and go to work... Life fail.

    InvisibleJim Today 06:39 AM
    I have a thread?

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:39 AM
    aww

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    What what

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    the one about careers

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:39 AM
    for ILI?

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:39 AM
    I thought it was yours

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    Oh, I though the suggestions were pretty uninspiring. I dont think I would leave the house to be a bank teller.

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:41 AM
    I asked a few questions that would allow me to analyze

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:41 AM
    and help me narrow options for you

    InvisibleJim Today 06:41 AM
    Im a petroleum engineer. I design the most economic way of depleting oil fields.

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:41 AM
    It's true that with ILI, often they are much more comfortable in "freedom" giving professions

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:42 AM
    oh

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:42 AM
    so you must have a degree in something?

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:42 AM
    What is it exactly?

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    I think the sentence above is optimum

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    Otherwise I would need 1000 words

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:43 AM
    lol

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:44 AM
    an engineer but is it a higher degree?

    Maritsa Darmandzhyan Today 06:44 AM
    like a PHD?

    InvisibleJim Today 06:45 AM
    Well my first degree was a masters in chemical engineering, im doing my second while I work which is a Masters in petroleum engineering
    To answer the OP, ILIs work best in careers where they need to draw practical empirical relationships to deliver some kind of product. Better if the empirical relationships involve dealing with uncertainty and creative solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    To answer the OP, ILIs work best in careers where they need to draw practical empirical relationships to deliver some kind of product. Better if the empirical relationships involve dealing with uncertainty and creative solutions.
    True, but human mind/body can be a "product" in development as well, which makes an ILI suited at Physician related careers as well.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    True, but human mind/body can be a "product" in development as well, which makes an ILI suited at Physician related careers as well.
    As type is most often appears to me to be a function of life philosophy, are these genetic or learned?

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    Many ILIs I know have rather boring and horrible office jobs. They seem to despise them, but somehow they remain attracted to their stability and relative ease. These are the typical environments where you can meet ESIs, aswell - even though the typical roles played by those two types will generally differe quite a bit.

    Some, who are happier, are either self-employed or work in academia.
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    I am a senior developer or team leader or something. I write software and I also tell the people in my team what's a good idea and what is not. I am OK with that job especially with the part where I discuss with people their ideas.

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    bbut, that wasn't in any of the e-books, wikis or blogs. whoosh is on me then, as usual. :disappears in shame:

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    Socionicist comes to mind.

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