Oh, fuck OFF.
Cuz he's my dual and we once had a dream bromance.
[Serious answer for Serious Name:] I don't know. I love scrubs and find Zach Braff to be an interesting guy. The idea for the avatars came spontaneously. And no, I'm not gay.
Oh, fuck OFF.
Cuz he's my dual and we once had a dream bromance.
[Serious answer for Serious Name:] I don't know. I love scrubs and find Zach Braff to be an interesting guy. The idea for the avatars came spontaneously. And no, I'm not gay.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
For the record, my question marks are predominantly people I don't have a specific vibe from, not necessarily that I don't pay attention to you.
1981slater - ?
aixelsid/Hostage_Child - ?
Allie - N
aka-kitsune - ?
ArchonAlarion/Jake - Q
Ashton - N
Baby - N
Banana Pancakes/diljs - Q
Binky - ?
Bionicgoat - Q
Brilliand - Q
BulletsAndDoves - N
calenwen - O
Carla - Q
Cheesy - ?
ChibiKeba - ?
Christy B - N
confused84 - ?
coolguy89 - O
cpig/cogsci - O
cracka - Q
crazedrat - ?>O>N
Cyclops - N/O
DeAnte - N
Diana - O/N
dinki - ?
Director Abbie - N/O
discojoe - ?
dolphin - N/Q
ephemeros - ?
Errant - Q/N
esper - N
eunice - N
Expat - O
Ezra - N
FDG - O
forcemyhand - ?
Garmonbozia - O
Gilly - N
glamourama - N
Gulanzon - Q
heath - Q/N
Herzy - N
iAnnAu - N
ifmd95 - Q
implied - N
Isha/Salawa/a million other aliases - N
Jarno - O
jason_m - Q
jessica129 - N
jewels - N
Jimbean - N
Joy - ?
JRiddy - Q
jxrtes - Q
Kamajama/Kamangir - Q
kensi - N
Khamelion - O
Khola/bee - Q
Kim - N/O
Kioshi - N
krae - N
Kristiina - N
labcoat - ?
leckysupport - ?
liveandletlive/muffler/Danielle - O
Logos - Q
Loki - N
machintruc - N
meatburger - N
mercutio - N/O
mikemex - N/O
Minde - N
misutii - N
Ms. Kensington - Q
munenori2 - Q
MysticSonic - Q
niffweed17 - O
Numbers/07490 - N
onetreehilluver - N
Pinball Wizard!/Luis/LokiVanguard or whatever - N
ragnar - ?
reckoner - ?
redbaron - N
reyn_til_runa - O
Rick - N
Ritella - N
rⅿⅽnew - N
RSV3 - Q
Rubicon/Jem - Q
ScarlettLux - N
scrith - ?
Sereno - ?
Serious Name - Q
sigma - ?
Sirena - N
Smilingeyes - N
somavision - ?
songofsappho - N
Ssmall - N
Starfall - N
Steve - Q
Stormy - ?
strrrng/Nick - N
Subterranean - N/Q
tereg - N
The Greeter - ?
thehotelambush - Q
tiny_dancer - N
Tom - N
tuturututu - Q
UDP - N
Warlord - O/N
Winterpark - N
ZTCrawcrustle - O
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Nice Fi PoLR disclaimer, Vero
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I kind of went with Diana's system... mine is done by how easily/naturally I've felt while interacting with them or how I've felt about their freekouts (this isn't about agreeing with their freekouts, it's a matter of understanding why they'd freakout on what they're freaking out about)
1981slater - N
aixelsid/Hostage_Child - ?
Allie - N
aka-kitsune - ?
ArchonAlarion/Jake - N
Ashton - N
Baby - N
Banana Pancakes/diljs - Q
Binky - ?
Bionicgoat - O
Brilliand - Q
BulletsAndDoves - N
calenwen - ?
Carla - Q
Cheesy - ?
ChibiKeba - Q
Christy B - Q
confused84 - ?
coolguy89 - ?
cpig/cogsci - Q
cracka - Q
crazedrat - N
Cyclops - ?
DeAnte - ?
Diana - N
dinki - ?
Director Abbie - O
discojoe - O
dolphin - N
ephemeros - N
Errant - N
esper - N
eunice - N
Expat - O
Ezra - N
FDG - Q
forcemyhand - Q
Garmonbozia - N
Gilly - N
glamourama - Q
Gulanzon - N
heath - Q
Herzy - N
iAnnAu - Q
ifmd95 - ?
implied - N
Isha/Salawa/a million other aliases - N
Jarno - O
jason_m - ?
jessica129 - N
jewels - ?
Jimbean - N
Joy - O
JRiddy - Q
jxrtes - Q
Kamajama/Kamangir - N
kensi - ?
Khamelion - O
Khola/bee - Q
Kim - N
Kioshi - ?
krae - N
Kristiina - N
labcoat - Q
leckysupport - N
liveandletlive/muffler/Danielle - N
Logos - Q
Loki - N
machintruc - N
meatburger - N
mercutio - N
mikemex - O
Minde - N
misutii - ?
mn0good/Vero - Q <3
Ms. Kensington - Q
munenori2 - Q
MysticSonic - Q
niffweed17 - O
Numbers/07490 - N
onetreehilluver - ?
Pinball Wizard!/Luis/LokiVanguard or whatever - Q
ragnar - ?
reckoner - ?
redbaron - N
reyn_til_runa - N
Rick - Q
Ritella - Q
rⅿⅽnew - O
RSV3 - ?
Rubicon/Jem - Q
ScarlettLux - N
scrith - ?
Sereno - ?
Serious Name - ?
sigma - ?
Sirena - N
Smilingeyes - N
somavision - ?
songofsappho - ?
Ssmall - ?
Starfall - N
Steve - Q
Stormy - ?
strrrng/Nick - N
Subterranean - Q
tereg - Q
The Greeter - ?
thehotelambush - Q
tiny_dancer - ?
Tom - N
tuturututu - ?
UDP - N
Warlord - N
Winterpark - N
ZTCrawcrustle - ?
Last edited by bg; 04-14-2009 at 05:50 AM.
Awww, I got a <3
<3 for you too
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
Honestly the most amusing things about these lists is looking at the people that no one seems to want in their quadra.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
I am not on anyone's list.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Slacker Mom - N>Q
Slacker Mom - Q
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Slacker Mom: O
(take no offense, you seem like a good person)
Slacker-Mom - N
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
I'm going to take this as:
Without thinking about socionics AT ALL, and NOT based on whether you agree on things or not, but rather whom you find enjoyable/annoying:
-Who do you enjoy/have no qualms about (Q)?
-Who do you sometimes find upsetting, but may or may not enjoy the manner of at other times (N)?
-Who rubs you the wrong way (O)?
-No idea/not enough interaction (?)?
Even if you end up in "O", I may still enjoy your presence, and if you get "Q" I might still disagree with you. This is about manner of posting, etc. for me.
1981slater - Q
aixelsid/Hostage_Child - Q
Allie - N/Q
aka-kitsune - ?
ArchonAlarion/Jake - N
Ashton - N/Q
Baby - ?
Banana Pancakes/diljs - Q
Binky - N/Q
Bionicgoat - Q/N
Brilliand - N
BulletsAndDoves - ?
calenwen - N/Q
Carla - N/O
Cheesy - ?
ChibiKeba - ?
Christy B - N/?
confused84 - N/?
coolguy89 - N/?
cpig/cogsci - N/Q
cracka - N/Q
crazedrat - N
Cyclops - N/O
DeAnte - ?
Diana - N
dinki - ?
Director Abbie - ?/N
discojoe - N
dolphin - Q/N
ephemeros - O/N
Errant - ?
esper - ?
eunice - ?
Expat - N
Ezra - Q
FDG - N
forcemyhand - ?
Garmonbozia - ?
Gilly - N
glamourama - N/Q
Gulanzon - N/Q
heath - ?
Herzy - Q (is it totally inappropriate that regardless to the fact that this is an unbiased response, if it was O I would have said Q anyway?)
iAnnAu - N/Q
ifmd95 - ?
implied - N
Isha/Salawa/a million other aliases - N
Jarno - ?
jason_m - ?
jessica129 - N
jewels - ?
Jimbean - N/O
Joy - N
JRiddy - Q/N
jxrtes - N/?
Kamajama/Kamangir - N
kensi - ?
Khamelion - ?
Khola/bee - N
Kim - ?
Kioshi - ?
krae - N/Q
Kristiina - ?
labcoat - ?/N
leckysupport - ?
liveandletlive/muffler/Danielle - ?
Logos - N
Loki - N/Q
machintruc - N
meatburger - ?
mercutio - N
mikemex - ?
Minde - O
misutii - ?
mn0good/Vero - N
Ms. Kensington - N
munenori2 - N/Q
MysticSonic - N
niffweed17 - O/N
Numbers/07490 - N/Q
onetreehilluver - ?
Pinball Wizard!/Luis/LokiVanguard or whatever - Q/?
ragnar - ?
reckoner - ?
redbaron - N
reyn_til_runa - ?
Rick - N
Ritella - N
rⅿⅽnew - N
RSV3 - ?
Rubicon/Jem - ?/N
ScarlettLux - N/Q
scrith - ?
Sereno - ?
Serious Name - Serious Answer/?
sigma - ?
Sirena - Q
Slacker Mom- N/?
Smilingeyes - O/Q... Yep. N doesn't seem to fit.
somavision - ?
songofsappho - ?
Ssmall - N
Starfall - N
Steve - Q/N
Stormy - ?
strrrng/Nick - Q/N
Subterranean - O/N
tereg - N
The Greeter - ?
thehotelambush - ?
tiny_dancer - ?
tuturututu - N
UDP - O
Warlord - N
Winterpark - Q
ZTCrawcrustle - N/O
After doing that, I feel like it was sort of difficult and not in any way enjoyable; I also used more "no idea" responses than I thought I would have to. Bleh.
Last edited by Tom; 04-18-2009 at 10:34 PM.
Wond'ring aloud, How we feel today. Last night sipped the sunset, My hand in her hair. We are our own saviours, As we start both our hearts, Beating life Into each other. ~Ian Anderson
Coming in a few days. I have some basic graphs ready right now.
Still looking for advice on multivariate analysis in general and cluster analysis in particular. Especially how to use R, which seems to be the appropriate software tool.
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
Key:
Q - They are likely in your Quadra.
O - They are likely in your Opposing quadra.
N - They are likely in one of your Neighboring quadras.
? - You don't know?
1981slater - N
aixelsid/Hostage_Child - N
Allie - N
aka-kitsune - Q
ArchonAlarion/Jake - N/Q
Ashton - ?
Baby - Q
Banana Pancakes/diljs - ?
Binky - ?
Bionicgoat - N
Brilliand - N
BulletsAndDoves - Q
calenwen - N
Carla - N
Cheesy - ?
ChibiKeba - ?
Christy B - ?
confused84 - ?
coolguy89 - ?
cpig/cogsci - ?
cracka - N
crazedrat - N
Cyclops - O
DeAnte - Q>O (no comment: )
Diana - N
dinki - Q
Director Abbie - O/N
discojoe - N
dolphin - N
ephemeros - ?
Errant - O
esper - Q
eunice -?
Expat - N
Ezra - Q
FDG - ?
forcemyhand - ?
Garmonbozia - ?
Gilly - Q
glamourama - Q
Gulanzon - N
heath - ?
Herzy - Q
iAnnAu - O
ifmd95 - N
implied - N/O
Isha/Salawa/a million other aliases - O/N
Jarno - N
jason_m - ?
jessica129 - O
jewels - O/N
Jimbean - Q
Joy - N
JRiddy - N
jxrtes - N
Kamajama/Kamangir - N
kensi - N
Khamelion - N
Khola/bee - N
Kim - ?
Kioshi - ?
krae - ?
Kristiina - Q
labcoat - ?
leckysupport - O
liveandletlive/muffler/Danielle - ?
Logos - N
Loki - Q
machintruc - N/Q
meatburger - O/Q
mercutio - Q
mikemex - N/O
Minde - O
misutii - Q
mn0good/Vero - N
Ms. Kensington - N
munenori2 - N
MysticSonic - ?
niffweed17 - N
Numbers/07490 - Q
onetreehilluver - ?
Pinball Wizard!/Luis/LokiVanguard or whatever - N
ragnar - ?
reckoner - ?
redbaron - Q
reyn_til_runa - ?
Rick - O/N
Ritella - Q/N
rⅿⅽnew - N/O
RSV3 - N
Rubicon/Jem - N
ScarlettLux - Q
scrith - ?
Sereno - O/N
Serious Name - ?
sigma - Q
Slacker Mom - O/N
Smilingeyes - O
somavision - ?
songofsappho - N
Ssmall - O/Q
Starfall - Q
Steve - N
Stormy - ?
strrrng/Nick - Q
Subterranean - N
tereg - N
The Greeter - ?
thehotelambush - ?
tiny_dancer - N/Q
Tom - Q
tuturututu - ?
UDP - O
Warlord - N
Winterpark - O
ZTCrawcrustle - ?
LOL thanks!
OK so I'll just list people I feel like I "get". But I will probably have left people off - there are a lot of newer people and a lot of people have changed names, so I have a hard time keeping up. Plus I had a period of inactivity so I've lost track of who is who.
Anyway. This isn't based on what quadra I think people are because I'd probably just stick people in whatever quadra they say they're in because I don't think about other people's types that much.
Bionicgoat
BulletsAndDoves
Carla - ? (if this is who I think it is)
cracka
Expat
Ezra
heath
implied
Isha/Salawa/a million other aliases
jewels
Kim
meatburger
Pinball Wizard!/Luis/LokiVanguard or whatever
Rick
Ritella
Ssmall
Subterranean
tereg
Winterpark
There are lots of people I like who aren't here but it would be because though I like them, either we don't always communicate well or I don't always understand their motivations or something like that. Or maybe I just haven't communicated with them enough to know.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Ok. I've been struggling to learn the software tools and the proper techniques, this seems to be what I dare expose to forumite scrutiny so far: A PCA biplot of 24 variables (forumite responses) in 119 observations (forumites responders expressed perceptions about):
For the time being, I ignored niffweed's response because it needs a special conversion to the standard reply format.
Basic explanation to the graph:
Each blue arrow (axis) represents a person's perceptions, there are 24 of them, each representing a forumite's answer to the survey.
Each point (green number) represents how a forumite is perceived among the 24 who answered. Being located far along a respondent's axis indicates closeness, a location close to the origin or beyond it in the minus direction means either that the responder haven't really noticed you or think you're in a distant quadra, or both.
For simplicity of perusal, I replaced names with numbers in the graph. The codes are as follows :
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- ArchonAlarion=0; BananaPancakes=1; Bionicgoat=2; BulletsAndDoves=3;
- Carla=4; DeAnte=5; Diana=6; Ezra=7; FDG=8; Isha=9;
- Jimbean=10; Kim=11; MimosaPudica=12;
- mn0good=13;munenori2=14;Sirena=15;
- Smilingeyes=16; TheGreeter=17;Tom=18;
- tuturututu=19;Warlord=20;Winterpark=21;
- ragnar=22;SlackerMom=23;
---------------------------------------------------------------
These are the respondents used. The rest:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
- 1981slater=24; aixelsid=25; akakitsune=26; Allie=27;
- Ashton=28; Baby=29; Binky=30; Brilliand=31;
- calenwen=32;Cheesy=33; ChibiKeba=34;ChristyB=35;
- confused84=36;coolguy89=37;cpig=38;cracka=39;
- crazedrat=40;Cyclops=41;dinki=42; DirectorAbbie=43;
- discojoe=44; dolphin=45; ephemeros=46; Errant=47; esper=48;
- eunice=49; Expat=50; forcemyhand=51; forgetmenot=52;
- Garmonbozia=53;Gilly=54; glamourama=55; Gulanzon=56;
- heath=57; Herzy=58;iAnnAu=59;ifmd95=60; implied=61;
- Jarno=62;jason_m=63; jessica129=64;jewels=65;
- Joy=66;JRiddy=67; jxrtes=68;Kamajama=69;
- kensi=70;Khamelion=71;Khola=72; Kioshi=73;
- krae=74;Kristiina=75; labcoat=76;leckysupport=77;
- liveandletlive=78; Logos=79;Loki=80;machintruc=81;
- meatburger=82;mercutio=83;mikemex=84; Minde=85;
- misutii=86;MsKensington=87; MysticSonic=88;niffweed17=89;
- Numbers=90;onetreehilluver=91;PinballWizard=92;rec koner=93;
- redbaron=94;reyn_til_runa=95;Rick=96; Ritella=97;
- rmcnew=98;RSV3=99; Rubicon=100;ScarlettLux=101;
- scrith=102; Sereno=103;SeriousName=104;sigma=105;
- somavision=106;songofsappho=107;Ssmall=108; Starfall=109;
- Steve=110;Stormy=111; strrrng=112;Subterranean=113;
- tereg=114; thehotelambush=115; tiny_dancer=116; UDP=117;
- ZTCrawcrustle=118;
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Some examples of how to interpret the graph:
1. Perceptions about Expat (no 50) is located far along in the plus direction of the Warlord axis. This may indicate that Warlord perceives a large level of quadra closeness to and is familiar with Expat.
2. Perceptions about MysticSonic(no 88) is located far in the opposite direction along the Warlord-like perception axis. This may indicate that Warlord perceives a large quadra distance and/or haven't really noticed the person.
3. munenori2s perception-axis point in almost the exact opposite direction to Warlords. His/Her perceptions about Expat and MysticSonic are the reverse of Warlord's.
I've almost certainly made bad mistakes. Please PM me if you find errors or inconsistencies either in method or data. Or if you want boring technical and mathematical details. Or even better, send me fan mail.
Last edited by ragnar; 05-01-2009 at 04:12 PM. Reason: presentation style, fixing muddled expressions
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
On the record: I must congratulate ragnar on his/her job. It's really interesting.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Wow, man. I'm impressed!
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
I like how my data point is roughly halfway between the general Alpha and Delta people's axes.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
i can't find my data point.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
I think given the type of analysis done, it could be assumed that the likelihood of two people being in the same quadra increases as their data points are closer together.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
Some interesting observations of the data:
Mercutio is halfway between the Gamma and Beta axes
Mimosa Pudica appears to be along the Gamma axis
Gulanzon and Kamajama are right next to each other (and it makes a lot of sense), both along the Alpha axis.
Starfall appears to be along the Alpha axis
Subterranean appears to be along the Alpha axis
mcnew appears to be along the Alpha axis
Errant appears to be along the Delta axis
UDP is clearly along the Delta side and not the Beta side
implied is between the Delta and Gamma axes
Smilingeyes is between Delta and Gamma, but appears to be more along the Gamma axis.
Ashton appears to be along the Gamma axis
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
It's all bullshit.