My Basic Views on Socionics

[aestrivex]

Temperament is a direct consequence of the E/I and J/P dichotomies which, togeather with the dichotomies of Club, are conventionally referred to as the Jungian Foundation.

Dichotomies - Wikisocion

temperament is a direct consequence of lifestyle as a result of leading function.

[Logos]

temperament is a direct consequence of lifestyle as a result of leading function.

Yes.

[Ezra]

well they could be explained (outside of the model) and still weaken Intertype relations.

Fair enough, but I was mainly talking about their being explained within the context of socionics.

I think Jason knows what he's talking about too well to post here.

Don't say that! We need more people like Jason to make this forum worth posting on.

They are accepted, but, ideally, some attempt should be made to explain them at some point, using either aspects of socionics itself, or external theories. In my view, it has to be accepted that socionics is not a perfect system of intertype relations - it only represents a general pattern that can often be applied, but will not always hold.

Okay, perhaps it does have scientific potential after all.

Socionix.

How is it any less substantiated than classical socionics?

[JuJu]

How is it any less substantiated than classical socionics?

Because they don't yet have a working model of inter-type relations, (the most important aspect of socionics.)

[Ezra]

(the most important aspect of socionics.)

In your opinion. In Augusta's opinion. Classical socionics dictates that it is an important aspect. Ashton, clearly, does not. This does not make it unsubstantiated.

[Creepy-male]

"But then it's just MBTI!" - JRiddy.

[Ezra]

No it isn't. MBTI works on a dichotomical basis; socionics pays the functions more due.