Originally Posted by
jason_m
Okay, I think I have an idea as to what's going on here. It deals with the notion of subtype. As most everyone here knows, the ILE can be divided into logical and intuitive subtypes. What a lot of people don't know is that Gulenko's notions of subtype are different from Meged and Ovcharov's. For example, in the case of ILE, Meged and Ovcharov consider the intuitive subtype to be like an IEE and the logical subtype to be like an SLE. Gulenko, on the other hand, agrees with the intuitive subtype but considers the logical subtype to be like an LII.
The point is that the logical subtype of ILE under Gulenkos conception is a lot like an LII, and therefore, somewhat similar to both E5 and the MBTI notion of INTP, while the intuitive subtype is more similar to E7ish traits and IEEs. It seems to me that many on this forum seem to overlook the logical subtype of ILE, and assume that all ILEs are similar to the intuitive subtype. For example, when I first came here, no one considered me to be an ILE after I posted a video of myself. While I do consider myself to be an LII, I think that this is somewhat strange, given that I identify with a lot of ILE descriptions. The only reason I can think of for this, based on the people who have been typed as ILE, is that people here seem to associate the ILE with more E7ish or intuitive subtype qualities. Therefore, I would say that there are at least two subtypes of ILE: one that is closer to E5 and another that is closer to E7, and socionists should be aware of both of them.
(It's interesting to note as well that subtype seems to play a role in my interactions with people on this forum. For example, I identify with LII-Ne and ILE-Ti subtypes, I don't identify with ILE-Ne subtypes, and I sometimes try to avoid some LII-Ti subtypes, because some, although clear LIIs, seem closer to LSI than myself.)
Jason