wondering what type you people think she is
wondering what type you people think she is
Last edited by silke; 04-08-2016 at 11:36 PM. Reason: updated video links
ENFp ??
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
i love her. she reminds me of deven green, who is equally hilarious.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
I think it's ENTp.
She's notorious for insulting minority groups as a form of joke. Fi PoLR to the max.ENFp
Last edited by krieger; 03-28-2009 at 11:29 PM.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
There's also the fact that the two main "friends" of the fictional version of herself are ISFps in the Sarah Silverman Program.
She isn't sensitive, fragile or emotional in any real way. The world is just full of playthings to her. If she can get some deranged sense of entertainment out of it, she'll abuse it. T not F.
Last edited by krieger; 03-29-2009 at 12:22 AM.
I saw her typed as EIE here.
i guess the "Ne" written across her forehead wasn't obvious enough an indication for these people.
In the Sarah Silverman Program, which is obviously autobiographical and somewhat true to what she is like in real life, she portrays herself as having the stereotypical Ne-ish habit of running to an oppurtunity, discarding it moments after taking an interest in it and running to the next. The whole show is about such oppurtunities and the laconical indifference with which she discards the activities and people involved after having faked interest in them. It's stereotypically ENTp.
Originally Posted by Socioniko.net: ENTpOriginally Posted by Jung on Ne
Last edited by krieger; 03-28-2009 at 11:15 PM.
I've seen Jimmy Kimmel typed SLE or ESE, and activity probably is a better guess for their relationship than business. Kimmel had a show with Ben Stein (probably Gamma NT) where they had lots of on-screen animosity - not sure if it was fake animosity or based on their real relationship.
Last edited by xerx; 03-28-2009 at 11:43 PM.
For the record, I'm basing most of my typing on what I've seen of her on the Sarah Silverman Program.
i typed silverman as IEI some time ago. i don't have any good reasons why that's any better than rick's typing of EIE, nor do i object at all to the latter, but i don't know why rick thinks EIE is more appropriate.
under no circumstances IEE; her brand of humor is provocative, emotionally colorful (she doesn't at all shy away from expressive caricature for laughs), and widely directed towards conveying social awkwardness and absurdity. basically a typically beta "fart jokes" sense of humor.
Bumping this thread. ILE? IEE? Something completely different?
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
The similarities lie in the delivery, not the content. Ellen's career aimed at the middle of the road and Silverman's at the adult audience. I'm glad you have also noticed the Delta's ST crassness because I think they are kind of known for it.
Play them at the same time.
...anything other than entp is wrong.
Compare Ellen's and Silverman's Fe free delivery to Russel's Fe heavy stand-up. (science).
Or even Daniel Tosh's Beta edginess that is aimed at making fun of other people.
There is tons of self reflection from Ellen and Silverman that the Beta's seem to lack. Notice how their jokes are mostly aimed at themselves and Russel's and Daniel's at other people? Coincidence?
ENTp, ENFj, ENFp.
I always found her really awkward and her jokes completely unfunny. There's just no wit there, she makes an obvious statement then looks at the audience like you should just laugh because she said something.
I think ILE
IEE
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
For the record I don't like Ellen either.
EP temperament. Merry. Seems more Beta than Alpha SLE > ILE.
Admittedly I don't know a whole lot of SLE women, so I could be way off-base here. But she does remind me of some SLE guys. Plus the ILE women I do know are totally dissimilar to her.
That's because she is using her role function in order to be "witty." It works surprisingly often for SLE.I always found her really awkward and her jokes completely unfunny. There's just no wit there, she makes an obvious statement then looks at the audience like you should just laugh because she said something.
IEE-Fi sp/sx
yes, this
That could be the differences of their instinct variants. Sp/sx social-last(ignoring) crudish crossing-the-line personal-value-inverting comedy of Sarah Silverman vs. So/sp social-first(mindful) preserve-the-middle-line dry-and-balanced personal-imprint-muting delivery style of Ellen. The raw and socially coarse delivery of social-lasts is easily mistaken for Fi/Fe polrs as well as Se valuing, even though 1/3rd of deltans fall under these stackings.
Last edited by silke; 07-11-2014 at 06:08 AM.
How unfortunate that many peoples' first exposure to Socionics is, apparently, via the Socionix website.
I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone or go to war over it, but the essence of my message is: if we start focusing on what we're actually seeing and hearing from people and the IM elements they're using rather than the type a site is telling us is correct (incorrectly, for the most part,) then this system will not only start to work for a majority of people here (for the first time since sailing across the Atlantic,) but it will be improved upon...
I never recall seeing more brain power at this forum than currently - and wouldn't it be something putting it to good use instead of spinning our wheels over disinformation..?
Before we can do that though, we must begin discerning the difference (as a group) between basic Socionics concepts... Fe vs. Fi, for example.
Again, I'm not writing this to be rude but because it saddens me deeply reading posts by clearly intelligent people, knowing they got some bad info at some point.
@JuJu
hmm... what is your typing of Silverman? which IM elements do you see play out in her behaviour?
I would say IEE, but I'm not sure
Entp-Ti or SLI
Ellen Fi-IEE and Silverman Ne-IEE.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Not very much going through the details. It seems to be bit hard for her. I think that indicates Ne base. At least it seems to be the case for me. As they come out it seems bit comical because everything is twisted through Ne. There are multiple times when I formulated an answer that came out as a metaphor which sounded very different from concrete perspective.
IEE. Reminds me a little bit about my niece. We certainly look at the world through the same lens.
It is seems to me that Fi PoLR and low shock intuition tolerance is sometimes mixed up. I have seen an EII laughing at my pretty shocking stuff when Ti component is toned down.
Last edited by The Reality Denialist; 10-26-2015 at 06:12 PM.
Wasn't altogether convinced she was ENTp until I saw this video. Now Im not so certain about typing her ENFp.
AF is right, Ne in ego does twist personalities up somewhat, the Ne-s all blend together because of it. I think ultimately, Sarah is no different from other ENTp comedians such as Jane Lynch, from Glee, and Chelsea Perreti, from Brooklyn 99.
I confused her with someone else. I'll have look at interviews
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think IEE just because i see Delta values and don't see Fe really. Ne seems like a given at this point.
Yeah, IEE.