Football Players (Soccer players)

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I'm very tired so not really focused but de bruyne seems more like an IxFx type to me, maybe with a dominant or creative subtype. His ex girlfriend cheated on him with a teammate and he still decided to continue playing with that guy. He seems very passive overall. Not like a coldblooded logical type.

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I take back a couple of ESI typings that I've made here. watched more interviews and one thing that I noticed is that soccer players really aren't that interesting to listen to. I made these typings long ago, so I'm unsure about them. I'm convinced now that Zinédine Zidane and Lionel Messi are IEI, though

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Revisiting this thread after many years. Member 1981slater did a great job and typed correctly many players, but made some mistakes. I corrected almost all of them and I'm correcting a few more below:

Mourinho, who I believed was LIE, I'm starting to question it. He is too grumbling, too intense, too material, too conservative, his defensive, orthodox style is extremely contrasting to high-risk, full-emcompassing-of-possibilities LIE style such as that from Cruyff and Guardiola. I believe Mourinho is probably LSE or an aggressive subtype of SLI. I'm still unsure, but I realized he is probably Sensory. As for someone's hypothesis for another typing, Mou has all elements of your typical neurotic Te Ego: rigid, cold, ironic, critical, authoritative, etc. Now, he has a tendency to be very grumbling and whining, which is typical of Delta STs, and not very particular of LIEs, who are described as positive-minded optimists who take negative things from the positive side. (When Guardiola loses, he always uses that as motivation, and says how "difficult" it is to win, etc, never in a self-defeating manner. He believes in future prospects, while Mourinho gets stuck in the past and present struggles - this could be a sign of weak intuition, along with his known lack of adaptation to modern tactics and coaching and him being stuck on his methods and style that worked great in the past - but not nearly as great in the last 10 years).

Regarding Neymar, as another member mentioned, just watch any interview from him. He has a lot of difficulty to articulate thoughts, he never gives opinions on anything (something that is very criticized in his own country Brazil), showing that his perception of reality and his Logic are quite weak. He lives mostly enjoying little pleasures of life (comfort, nerdy videogames, women, and his friends - quite Alpha quadra). He is very emotional, sensitive, and says he wants to retire young because of 1) the criticism (Introverts are also often the most sensitive to media criticism. Extraverts have bigger Egos and can handle them more confidently) and 2) because he wants long vacations, he hates work (Te PoLR?). He says he wants to play in the MLS, a league that has like 5 months of off-season. Very Si thing. He wants things easy and soft, without tensions, grinding and pressure. SLE? Never. Neymar is an arrogant subtype of SEI. (Not all SEIs are humble softies, even though it's the tendency). Neymar also doesn't have that particular physical aggression and strenght of Se. He is extremely skinny and fragile physically, always jumping making lots of drama (Fe) and getting injured because of his weak bones. Se Base? Nope. An interesting coincidence is Marco Reus, another Si Base (SLI), is always getting injured as well, very fragile. Se according to Jung in Psychological Types is the function associated with physical vitality. One could compare Neymar to Ronaldinho (SEE), but the extreme drama (Fe), the physical fragility (weak Se), and the penchant for nerdiness (Ne) puts him in the SEI sphere, even though SEI and SEE can behave in similar fashion. After all they're very similar, dichotomy-function-wise.

*Disclaimer: people in Socionics classify as Se Ego all those who behave in assertive, confrontational fashion, but that is not always the case. There are a few Si Egos and even Ne Base types who can act tough, appearing similar to Se Egos. This will happen often with people from latin cultures, who have a tendency to more emotional and intense behavior)

Some new corrections:

Pelé SEE
Kaká EII
Ibrahimovic LSI >
Batistuta SLI >
Di María ESI >
Aubameyang ESI
Mascherano LSI
Antonio Conte LSI

Latter I'll give some brand typings for young players and others that weren't typed in this thread. By the way, these typing lists made by these other recent members were totally off, maybe like 5% of accuracy, something very very bad. You guys should re-visit VI, and study more about the theory. 1981slater's typings, as a comparison, were way superior.

[InterPrizeWes]

I don’t know if any amount of faith, wisdom, Bunny, or magic give me a 2006 World Cup trophy, even though I did grab many of them in the aftermath. Perhaps it’s for the better, but if only we could also add 2006…

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I mean, Andrea Pirlo is a very interesting guy, but Zidane won Euro 2000 with phantom express roulette arsenal penetrating and zapping all resistance.

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Some great intuitive midfielders:

Pirlo - EII - INFj



Kaká - EII - INFj

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New young stars:

Erling Haaland - LSI - ISTj



Kevin De Bruyne - EII - INFj

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Kylian Mbappé - ESI - ISFj




Vinicius Jr - ESI - ISFj



Kai Havertz - EIE - ENFj



Paulo Dybala - EIE - ENFj




Ngolo Kanté - SEE - ESFp



Son - EII - INFj



Harry Kane - EII - INFj >



Gavi - ESI - ISFj

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Mohamed Salah - ESE - ESFj



Christian Eriksen - SEI - ISFp



Marcus Rashford - ESI - ISFj



Jordan Henderson - IEE - ENFp

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Intuitives in football are mostly in the midfield sector. This happens probably because intuitives have inferior athleticism compared to their sensory counterparts, which makes it difficult to compete at the highest level in most positions. However, in the midfield, intuitives can find a competitive advantage, thanks to a great "reading" of the game: making perfectly calculated passes while projecting future possible outcomes of those passes - a valuable skill which compensates for their lack of athleticism. See in De Bruyne, Pirlo, Deco, Kroos, Henderson.

Van Djik - LSI - ISTj



Mané - SEE - ESFp



Alisson - IEE - ENFp



Eduardo Camavinga - SEE - ESFp



Rodrygo - ESI - ISFj



Ansu Fati - ESI - ISFj



Federico Valverde - LSI - ISTj



Diego - Bundesliga Best Player 2007 - IEE - ENFp



John Dahl Tomasson - Danish Player of the Year 2002; 2004 - LSI - ISTj



Gianfranco Zola - Chelsea legend - ILE - ENTp

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Rui Costa - SEE - ESFp



Francesco Totti - LSI - ISTj



Javier Zanetti - SLI - ISTp



Fabio Cannavarro - LSI - ISTj



David Beckham - LSI - ISTj



Didier Drogba - SEE - ESFp



Van Nistelrooy - SLE - ESTp



Alessandro Del Piero - SLI - ISTp



Roy Makaay - ESI - ISFj



Steven Gerrard - ESI - ISFj



Frank Lampard - ESI - ISFj



Frank Ribery - SLI - ISTp



Arjen Robben - SLI - ISTp



Ryan Giggs - SLI - ISTp



Damien Duff - LSE - ESTj

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Patrick Vieira - SEE - ESFp



Thierry Henry - ESI - ISFj



Dennis Bergkamp - LSI - ISTj



Kun Aguero - ESE - ESFj



David Silva - ESI - ISFj



Antonio Cassano - ESE - ESFj



Roy Keane - SLI - ISTp



Carlo Ancelotti - IEE - ENFp



Sir Alex Ferguson - LSI - ISTj



Mauricio Pochettino - IEE - ENFp



Thomas Tuchel - SLI - ISTp



Jurgen Klopp - ILE - ENTp >



Massimiliano Allegri - SLI - ISTp



Erik Ten Hag - LSI - ISTj



Hansi Flick - LSE - ESTj (Logical subtype)



José Mourinho - LSE - ESTj (Sensory subtype)

[Delilah]

"I'm sorry he didn't get to play, but no one knows what will happen," Zidane said.
"If I think a player doesn't fit in the team, I have to do what I think works best.
"No one can change what Bale has done for the team, but as a coach I have to live in the present."

Zinedine Zidane said this today and my immediate thought was, "Is there a 16Types thread for footballers and has anyone typed him as SLI yet?"

Odd thing, i had a typing for Zidane since forever ago, so here goes: how about EXFp for him? Unsure if ESFp or ENFp, but some version of Fi creative Fe demonstrative seems to make most sense imo.

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I spend most of my youth playing soccer. I genuinely think the majority of soccer players that become famous are IEI, which includes the majority of players mentioned here