John Von Neumann

[FDG]

What do you guys think for him?

My guess is ENTj. Later I'll give some thoughts about.





quotes:

You wake me up early in the morning to tell me that I'm right? Please wait until I'm wrong.

When we talk mathematics, we may be discussing a secondary language built on the primary language of the nervous system.

If one has really technically penetrated a subject, things that previously seemed in complete contrast, might be purely mathematical transformations of each other.

Young man, in mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I think that it is a relatively good approximation to truth — which is much too complicated to allow anything but approximations — that mathematical ideas originate in empirics. But, once they are conceived, the subject begins to live a peculiar life of its own and is … governed by almost entirely aesthetical motivations. In other words, at a great distance from its empirical source, or after much "abstract" inbreeding, a mathematical subject is in danger of degeneration. Whenever this stage is reached the only remedy seems to me to be the rejuvenating return to the source: the reinjection of more or less directly empirical ideas.

You should call it entropy, for two reasons. In the first place your uncertainty function has been used in statistical mechanics under that name, so it already has a name. In the second place, and more important, no one really knows what entropy really is, so in a debate you will always have the advantage.

Any one who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin. For, as has been pointed out several times, there is no such thing as a random number — there are only methods to produce random numbers, and a strict arithmetic procedure of course is not such a method.

There probably is a God. Many things are easier to explain if there is than if there isn't.

About Von Neumann: "Von Neumann had an absolute paranoia about the Russians and favored a first nuclear strike. Einstein referred to him as a Denktier, a think animal." - Jeremy Bernstein.
"He was a really remarkable man. He listened to me talk about this rather obscure subject and in ten minutes he knew more about it than I did. He was extremely quick." - David Blackwell

[mimisor]

Well I don't know who he was/ is

Considering V.I. alone - ISFp, just because looks like one, but it could be wrong otherwise

[tcaudilllg]

Definitely an ENT. Maybe a J.... Not sure. But maybe.

[hellothere]

reviving this thread, based on something i read on wikipedia lol:

Although von Neumann invariably wore a conservative grey flannel business suit, he enjoyed throwing large parties at his home in Princeton, occasionally twice a week.[19] He was known to even play tennis wearing his business suit. Despite being a notoriously bad driver, he nonetheless enjoyed driving (frequently while reading a book) - occasioning numerous arrests as well as accidents. He once reported one of his car accidents in this way: "I was proceeding down the road. The trees on the right were passing me in orderly fashion at 60 miles per hour. Suddenly one of them stepped in my path."[20] (The von Neumanns would return to Princeton at the beginning of each academic year with a new car.)
A committed hedonist, von Neumann liked to eat and drink heavily; his wife, Klara, said that he could count everything except calories. He enjoyed yiddish and "off-color" humor (especially limericks) and could make very insensitive jokes (for example: "bodily violence is a displeasure done with the intention of giving pleasure").[citation needed].

[1981slater]

Well, I've recently read a little bit about his life and he sounds Ti-ENTp: blunt, impatient, loved games and to act weird in parties, etc
On his intertype relations: apparently, he thought Einstein was slow and boring, although they had a good-but-distant relationship. Einstein was an idealist and Von Neumann was into war planning, for instance. ILE vs ILI? ILE vs LII?
Richard Feynman and JvN were good friends. JvN, apparently, had a hard time when relaxing and RF advised him not to take things seriously at all. Two ILEs? ILE and LIE? LIE and ILE? LIE and LIE?

[FDG]

I thought they were LIE and LIE with different enneagram types? While Einstein might have been an ILE and his "slowness" was related to process-result?

[1981slater]

I thought they were LIE and LIE with different enneagram types? While Einstein might have been an ILE and his "slowness" was related to process-result?

Yes. One of the differences is that Feynman slept with many women and Von Neumann got married twice and had a boring family-life. So Feynman Ne-LIE and Von Neumann Te-LIE or Te-LIE is a possible way out.
I hate slowness, I feel like an LIE this evening!

...and Feynman's sense of humour made people lol, whereas Von Neumann's was difficult to get by "normal people"

[Beautiful sky]

I think Einstein was Ti-ENTp as well, but probably a 9w1.

I do as well.

[Quote Unquote]

John von Neumann definitely hadn't the high-strung energy that EJ types have, I really disagree with the ENTj typing, it doesn't sound sound to me...

His VI indicates toward LII rather than ILE. He seems rather a controled and humble IJ than an inherent wacko like most EP types are (especially the intuitive types). He shows some kind of humbleness of personality on his pictures, what seems incompatible with EP and EJ types. He always looks contrained and clearly not assertive. In my opinion, he obviously seems to have a PoLR... He is totally feeble in matter of assertiveness.

[silke]

LSI soc-9w1

[khcs]

John Von Neumann - INFP - Yesenin

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