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    I was recently watching Fox 5 News and came across the fact that people murder other people. I thought I should make you all aware.
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    If it would protect my child, absolutely, in an instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    If it would protect my child, absolutely, in an instant.
    That's cliche parent speak for saying, "I have urges to kill people and am looking for an excuse."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drommel View Post
    That's cliche parent speak for saying, "I have urges to kill people and am looking for an excuse."
    Yeah. It must be easy to set-up situations in which your child is being attacked by the particular person you'd like to kill.
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    Uh, no. I think in a random circumstance where it was either him or me and life depended on it, then yes..obviously... but I could never sit and contemplate murdering someone...if people here do, please lock yourself up. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Uh, no. I think in a random circumstance where it was either him or me and life depended on it, then yes..obviously... but I could never sit and contemplate murdering someone...if people here do, please lock yourself up. Thanks.
    ditto to this. i feel too lazy to contemplate such.
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    I actually think that some people function better when they take on murder as a recreational pastime. "Balances them out," so to speak. I think it's important that we let people do whatever keeps them sane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I live a secret life.
    LOL !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I live a secret life.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    God I'm such an idiot.
    You're right K4m. You are. @Kill4Me
    I'm just blind to this kind of shit. I don't see it. While it's blatantly obvious to everyone else.
    COnclusion.... fuck it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drommel View Post
    That's cliche parent speak for saying, "I have urges to kill people and am looking for an excuse."
    Bullshit.
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    If it wasn't for the existence of God I would have killed so many people you would not believe the thoughts I have had. Really incredibly violent thoughts, so many different ways, the flesh horribly distorted...so many former people just lying there, dead.
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    Does no one else find it questionable that most of the responses to the poll involve some variation of "yes, why not", while only one is a "probably not". There's no "No, never." or a "Only if I had to" or "To protect my loved ones"

    Is there something you're trying to tell us Ritella
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    Anybody would. No matter what you think, it's batshit easy for anybody to be pushed into violence in the right situation/push the right buttons long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Almost anyone is capable of killing if pushed far enough or placed into the right situation. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone if I thought they meant me or my family harm.
    Quote Originally Posted by truck View Post
    Anybody would. No matter what you think, it's batshit easy for anybody to be pushed into violence in the right situation/push the right buttons long enough.
    this.

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    When I first saw this thread, my answer was "no." But then, just as I was about to cast my vote, this commercial came on:

    I may have to rethink my initial response....

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    ahahaha. Maybe I should get that. I do really need something to clean my boat and my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    When I first saw this thread, my answer was "no." But then, just as I was about to cast my vote, this commercial came on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

    I may have to rethink my initial response....
    Um...I want to order this now.

    And to answer the original question, yes, I would ever kill someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    I was recently watching Fox 5 News and came across the fact that people murder other people. I thought I should make you all aware.
    No way! That is terrible.


    BTW..... Are you sure you are INFJ? They don't watch Fox news... only CNN. (* hands raised* Idk.. I don't make the rules.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    No way! That is terrible.


    BTW..... Are you sure you are INFJ? They don't watch Fox news... only CNN. (* hands raised* Idk.. I don't make the rules.)
    FOX 5 News is a different channel. It's the local FOX broadcast affiliate in NYC, not Fox News Channel. They do the 5 O Clock news like all affiliates elsewhere around the country - pretty much straight news, not too much bias, except a seeming bias towards only talking about who got raped, killed, etc like all other local news.

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    It's possible, if I have an accident with my car I cannot exclude that somebody will be killed.
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    murder is fun

    from another topic

    Quote Originally Posted by science as magic View Post
    you can kill the person AND fix the issue. besides killing is fun
    yes

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    Maybe a more interesting question would be: "Would you be able to kill someone outside self-defense?"
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    sometimes i have trouble controlling my impulses and ive been driven far enough by emotion enough times in the past to behave in ways counter to my values. so under extreme circumstances i seriously doubt it would be any different when it comes to murder. i think its extremely unlikely that the motivation, opportunity, etc. would ever line up exactly right for it to happen. i would need to be under a degree of pressure like i've never experienced before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Maybe a more interesting question would be: "Would you be able to kill someone outside self-defense?"
    it probably feels like self defense a lot of the time even when it isnt.
    ie. this person is fucking my lover/going to get me fired/holding onto money that i need therefore ruining my life
    not RATIONAL obviously, but people have irrational thoughts and feelings all the time.
    i think maybe you have to be a psychopath or something to kill without feeling some kind of pressure to do so. and i don't think that's true for most people who have killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    it probably feels like self defense a lot of the time even when it isnt.
    When you put it like this it confirms one of my most resolute beliefs: People are more stupid than evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    When you put it like this it confirms one of my most resolute beliefs: People are more stupid than evil.

    yeah, well only because they are MORE stupid than evil ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    yeah, well only because they are MORE stupid than evil ;-)
    I see it as something that tells about how little actual evil (whatever that is) is to be found in humankind.
    The implication that people are stupid, however, has no intelligent point of reference.

    Stupid compared to what?
    You and your friends?
    Animals?
    Extraterrestrials?
    In comparison of how intelligent they should be?

    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    haha, maybe. but i wouldn't exactly put it that way. self-preservational instincts and passionate emotions exist for a reason. thank god we're not all robots.
    That belief just makes me grateful that people are far from inherently evil, unlike some religions try to teach us.

    PS: If you would be a robot, you wouldn't feel ungrateful about that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    When you put it like this it confirms one of my most resolute beliefs: People are more stupid than evil.
    haha, maybe. but i wouldn't exactly put it that way. self-preservational instincts and passionate emotions exist for a reason. thank god we're not all robots.

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    Killing is nothing. It's got to be one of the most popular activities in the world.
    Cannibalism is the shit. Plumper, the better. Dose of barbeque sauce, hannibal lector style. ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Killing is nothing. It's got to be one of the most popular activities in the world.
    Cannibalism is the shit. Plumper, the better. Dose of barbeque sauce, hannibal lector style. ; )
    Fuck that pussy shit. Necrophilia all the way -- we can keep the BBQ sauce though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    Fuck that pussy shit. Necrophilia all the way -- we can keep the BBQ sauce though...
    you are a pussy, though. you write gay poetry. you have that gay mcbain stamp in your signature.
    you and djarendee need to start a group for EIEs that have nerdy avatars and signatures. don't you dare fuckin' talk to me with a loser avatar like that. did you leave your personality on your type thread. go read it. the real you talks in airy, long-winded prose, full of flowery, attention-whoring platitudes...all of a sudden you're all about 'fuck that pussy shit". You have no core. On top of it, I saw your picture and think you're ugly. I don't like ugly people. Three strikes, you're out. You're into necrophilia? i have an idea! find some necrophiliacs and let them fuck your corpse.

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    I told you I don’t want you to talk to me, Mc-pain-in-the-ass. Just accept the fact that I don’t like talking to mistyped people, you obscenity. You're a social flake with no substance who writes garbage poetry. You want to amuse me. Make some homo videos dancing around with a hot dog like your EIE fruitcake identicals. After that, go join a circus act where you can put your low IQ miming to use impersonating down syndrome kids. Beatings from a lead pipe would drastically improve your ugly mug, old school style with a pillow case over your head, even more than a vice grip would benefit your low intelligence after it crushed your head like a soda can, and I would happily oblige you in turning the crank until your eyes popped out of its socket. That's enough tips from k4m to stick in your Jerry’s Kid jar as you limp on in your one-monkey circus act. If you don’t know what I mean by an obscenity, jump off a bridge to nowhere and you’ll get the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    I told you I don’t want you to talk to me, Mc-pain-in-the-ass. Just accept the fact that I don’t like talking to mistyped people, you obscenity. You're a social flake with no substance who writes garbage poetry. You want to amuse me. Make some homo videos dancing around with a hot dog like your EIE fruitcake identicals. After that, go join a circus act where you can put your low IQ miming to use impersonating down syndrome kids. Beatings from a lead pipe would drastically improve your ugly mug, old school style with a pillow case over your head, even more than a vice grip would benefit your low intelligence after it crushed your head like a soda can, and I would happily oblige you in turning the crank until your eyes popped out of its socket. That's enough tips from k4m to stick in your Jerry’s Kid jar as you limp on in your one-monkey circus act. If you don’t know what I mean by an obscenity, jump off a bridge to nowhere and you’ll get the point.
    LOL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhh shit bruh bruh lol. The Dozens. respect lol, at least someone doesn't take themselves too seriously on this site. Now back to our regular scheduled programming where I have a life.

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    I swear Mcbain. Arendee and you are the same shit responding to me with likes. “Hi my name is mcbain. I put the name mcbain in my avatar because I’m so fucking stupid that I might forget it. I'm the dumbest 16type member ever.” Pompousness amuses me. Arendee thinks he looks like a supermodel and that people "hated" on him because he has charisma. Only problem with that is, in real life, people react positively to good-looking, charismatic people. Like Arendee, you have nothing worth being jealous of. By all indications, you don’t have a hot girlfriend. You aren’t a multi-millionaire. You don’t fuck supermodels. You bring nothing to the table in terms of the shit people typically get jealous of. You’re just a vain motherfucker. That's why you pompous doves amuse me. Open your fuckin' eyes. Goodlooking charismatic people get a shitload of friend requests and a ton of visitor messages. You get picked on because you’re a person that’s not good-looking, doesn’t have charisma, and deosn’t have brains, but nevertheless manages to kid himself into believing the opposite. Those opposing elements in combination indicate your desire (and ripeness) for psychological torture.

    Hehehe. Go pull a pity me farewell thread where you cry about how you’re not wanted here any more. In the end, all guys like you have left to bank on, after I get through with you, is pity. No pity from me, though. That’s why I’ll mind fuck my kid when he's young, so he’s not waving hot dogs and having head spasms later on in the public eye like some limp-wristed daisy sniffer. Truth be told: if I had a kid and my kid ever turned out like you mcbain, I would disown him. Too bad I wasn’t admin of this place. Mistyped people like you bring down the quality of discussion. No insight is gained into your self-typing because your self-typing is wrong. I would deal with guys like you real easy. Month to fall in line with your right type. End of every month the mistyped undesirables like yourself would be systematically purged. That’s the only legitimate function of moderation. Bottom line Mcpain-in-the-ass: go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    I swear Mcbain. Arendee and you are the same shit responding to me with likes. “Hi my name is mcbain. I put the name mcbain in my avatar because I’m so fucking stupid that I might forget it. I'm the dumbest 16type member ever.” Pompousness amuses me. Arendee thinks he looks like a supermodel and that people "hated" on him because he has charisma. Only problem with that is, in real life, people react positively to good-looking, charismatic people. Like Arendee, you have nothing worth being jealous of. By all indications, you don’t have a hot girlfriend. You aren’t a multi-millionaire. You don’t fuck supermodels. You bring nothing to the table in terms of the shit people typically get jealous of. You’re just a vain motherfucker. That's why you pompous doves amuse me. Open your fuckin' eyes. Goodlooking charismatic people get a shitload of friend requests and a ton of visitor messages. You get picked on because you’re a person that’s not good-looking, doesn’t have charisma, and deosn’t have brains, but nevertheless manages to kid himself into believing the opposite. Those opposing elements in combination indicate your desire (and ripeness) for psychological torture.

    Hehehe. Go pull a pity me farewell thread where you cry about how you’re not wanted here any more. In the end, all guys like you have left to bank on, after I get through with you, is pity. No pity from me, though. That’s why I’ll mind fuck my kid when he's young, so he’s not waving hot dogs and having head spasms later on in the public eye like some limp-wristed daisy sniffer. Truth be told: if I had a kid and my kid ever turned out like you mcbain, I would disown him. Too bad I wasn’t admin of this place. Mistyped people like you bring down the quality of discussion. No insight is gained into your self-typing because your self-typing is wrong. I would deal with guys like you real easy. Month to fall in line with your right type. End of every month the mistyped undesirables like yourself would be systematically purged. That’s the only legitimate function of moderation. Bottom line Mcpain-in-the-ass: go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on.
    Gosh, @Azure Flame really left a number on you little guy -- don't worry he'll be back just have hope -- true love knows no reason, boundaries, or distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    I swear Mcbain [...]

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    I have shocked people with the statement that I can identify with almost any murderer. The thing is, within circumstances it's very hard to predict how one behaves.

    If someone would kill/maim/abuse anyone dear to me i'd not hesitate to bring swift vengeance to them. This despite the fact that i'm against vigilenty behaviour or death penalty.

    I've also pondered wether or not I could pay someone to allow me to "hunt" them. Kinda....something for on the bucketlist. I'm sure i'm not evil enough to go to hell yet, so before I die I need to perform some hideous deeds to avoid being stranded for eternity with the likes of maritsa and eliza.

    (unless they're actually going to hell too...shit!)



    The fact that I can things like this easily and comfortably leads some people (@ATH i'm looking at you) to the conclusion that i'm a psycho ^^

    OFC i prefer the term "open minded" myself ;-)

    The chances of me doing this, or anything coming from mars are a million to one they said!

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    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment_van_Milgram
    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanfor...enisexperiment

    Evil is banal.

    As for the point of reference about stupid people: it refers ofc to the "human" described in any and all books on subscriptive morality, economic rationality and social interaction.

    Humans are stupid as a whole, one might be more stupid than another, but in the end, the most intelligent person on earth is still an idiot

    Humans are stupid, but some humans are more stupid than others. (second use of this animal farm reference today, but it's such a fun one!)

    Edit: Yeah, the answer would be your last one; compared to how smart we think we should be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Humans are stupid as a whole, one might be more stupid than another, but in the end, the most intelligent person on earth is still an idiot
    If everyone's stupid, there is no intelligent point of reference. What is smart then?
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