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    What was his type?

    I'm gonna go out on a whim and say he is an Intuitive-ethical Introvert, INFp. I know I'm breaking my rule of all celebrities being ENTp. Still, his work seems like the product of Ni, and he just gives off that "feel" that some of INFp guys have.
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    He's the creator of fucking STAR WARS!!! He can't be anything BUT an INTj.
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    What about infj? I get some F from him for some reason.
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    What about infj? I get some F from him for some reason.
    Well, I've seen that he spent years making the movies under a lot of deadline pressure and stuff going wrong. I just couldn't see myself ever doing something for so long, having to talk to so many people all the time, and during filmmaking constantly not change things because they seem boring... I don't know, maybe.

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    Well he's technically autistic.

    I'm proposing ISTx: the Historian. He has traits of both ISTPs and ISTJs. Whenever you hear him explain something, it's always really simple... "He's just a guy who has a really screwed up life...", so he said of Darth Vader. Of course this is a simplification and an intentional one. ISTxs are extremely precise in their wordings and are veritable encyclopedias of information. They can use these vast repositories of facts to create artificial histories. (Like Star Wars, for example) ISTxs make a point of accumulating information from as many nonfiction sources as they can. I for one end up looking like a fool when I argue with one. (so do all INTJs... INTPs, too.)

    He's definitely not INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    He's the creator of fucking STAR WARS!!! He can't be anything BUT an INTj.
    Agreed
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    I have a 20/20 documentary of George Lucas where he talks about his company and family life. The things I found most shocking was that he looks, acts, thinks very much like my old INTj roommate in college did. Similar gestures, hairstyles, and tone of voice. EVERYTHING!

    So, I think it would be 'quick-on-the-draw' not to consider George Lucas's type to be INTj, but ISTj and INFp I admit do seem like possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    He's the creator of fucking STAR WARS!!! He can't be anything BUT an INTj.
    Agreed
    An INTJ wouldn't act so pathetically in front of people.... ("Ya know he's this guy who's just had a really crappy life"!?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    He's the creator of fucking STAR WARS!!! He can't be anything BUT an INTj.
    Agreed
    An INTJ wouldn't act so pathetically in front of people.... ("Ya know he's this guy who's just had a really crappy life"!?)
    I've seen INTjs do that ...

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    quote]Dioklecian wrote:
    gilligan87 wrote:
    He's the creator of fucking STAR WARS!!! He can't be anything BUT an INTj.


    Agreed


    An INTJ wouldn't act so pathetically in front of people.... ("Ya know he's this guy who's just had a really crappy life"!?)[/quote]

    Maybe he's an INTj who grew up with ISTp's like me.

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    Just stumbled across this thread. I think Lucas is an SEI.
    http://www.socionics.us/celebrities/sei/lucas.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater
    In my humble opinion, George Lucas is an ENTp. He "created" the Star Wars World but he took many things from movies or books. For example, the Jedi swords come from the movie Excalibur (1981);the Empire is a metaphor for Third Reich and the Rebels for the British Royal Air Force...
    The first Star Wars film was released in 1977, already with Jedi swords, and Excalibur was hardly the first movie to show swords.

    No offense, but this was one of the silliest statements ever.

    EDIT: I agree with your general point about Lucas plagiarizing other movies or books.
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    Dude, socionic type is about what kind of people you like and find easy to be around and why. Things like where you get your ideas for your artistic creations are like the 8th derivative of type.

    Some tidbits:
    Lucas doesn't even have a computer at home (or he doesn't have e-mail -- one of the two)
    He raises two adopted children on his own.
    He is a long-time close buddy of Steven Spielberg, who is much more outspoken and visible. They have done lots of films together and like to take vacations together.

    Sergei Ganin types Lucas as LII and Spielberg as IEE. That would be a supervisory relationship...

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    I think Rick may well be right.

    I read that Lucas dreamed of being a car race pilot, was an amateur racer and almost died in an accident -- that doesn't sound very INTj.

    On the other hand, in interviews, Lucas has said that, among the several fields of moviemaking, he enjoys editing the most. Not directing (he has said he dislikes the people-management part of it) or even writing - he prefers editing.

    Despite the supposed richness of his "universe", his movies focus on action and sensorial stimuli - not big ideas.
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    I strongly recommend reading this long interview with Lucas where he tells about his childhood and his life.
    http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/luc0int-1

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    Note that Lucas makes no "sharp" or categorical statements whatsoever and that his speech uses a minimal amount of concepts. He speaks using normal everyday concepts, and not with the intention of trying to get the listener to understand something "difficult," but simply to accurately tell about his life.

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    LII-Ne: George Lucas



    This interview he talks about rules, symbolism, mythology, trying multiple different genres. Favorite role is editing which is quite technical and he even refers to that as his focus in his directing process. IJ perfectionism and detailed-orientation. Talking style and work ethic seems quite rational. He explains that the conception of Star Wars for him was to take psychological ideas from social, spiritual and political issues by finding connections throughout the world and through time; finding similarities so he could condense them into a story/metaphor. Talks about bringing new ideas into society in regard to his film at the time it was released. He seems to take great pride in being 'ahead of his time'. That Fe-seeking stare you can recognize pretty quickly.



    His good relationship with Steven Spielberg whom I have as ESE-Si would makes sense as well.
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    He seems like a Ti-leading type. Star Wars, when it came out, was pretty representative of Alpha values, but also Beta ones (Ne and Se and Si and Ni), Gamma and Delta are impossible (the super-limited originality and effectiveness/long-term impact of systems-making in Te-valuing types). Maybe an LSI-Se, it's just that they usually aren't that "revolutionary" when it comes to visual arts as film directors and concept creators, but neither are LII really. And even in business you only see two or three anywhere near as original and successful as John D. Rockefeller once every few thousand years, if even that frequently. Still, George Lucas was pretty strong-willed and it's about wars and conflicts so I'm going with LSI-Se.

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    He is NOT Ti lead... That is rather obvious to me.
    Temperament seems Je.
    Star Wars is Delta.


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    ESI. Just my guess.

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    “I’m a combination of a practical person... and a fantasy daydreamy person who’s not practical at all.”

    "When I started to go into Star Wars... I made it like a children's film because I wanted to influence kids with basically a mythology to say this is what we believe in, these are our rules, this is what we are as a society." (Ti)

    The only argument here seems like a stereotype. My LII-Ne friend in film school makes “tone poems” and experimental films just like Lucas did. Also, he's super into editing and edits others films as well where I always get stressed out with editing and the more technical process. A lot of people say that me and him are quite similar but speaking to him I can feel that our goals are quite different. Star Wars seems Alpha to me, he even says in the interview that the whole thing is basically a soap opera about family. It's all one large series of Utopian fantasy, where everyone comes together in the end. There's a focus on cultural imperatives, different backgrounds coming together, the importance of hope and believing in what isn't immediately present(Ne). There's a need for psychological union in these films which requires dependence rather than self-sufficiency, especially with the alliance. Jedi do seem Delta with their goal to come into balance with the force and characters like Obi-Wan, Yoda, or Luke Skywalker who retreat into isolation but the films as a whole really seem more aimed to build a new society with new ideas rather than retreat. There is also the opposing quadra to the Jedi with Beta more representative of the Sith whom seek through passion and power. I don't see why he couldn't write a commentary on this, especially whilst sharing those world accepting values. LII-Ne with accentuated ethics makes sense to me. If not, naturally EII-Ne would be my second guess but I have my doubts. I wouldn't type him based on the movie alone either way.



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