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    This post is for those who are interested in how to type others accurately--the steps you should take, what you should look for in other ppl, etc.

    Rick DeLong gave me permission to post his typing of me on this forum. Here it is:

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    Hi Justin,

    I'm pretty confident of my conclusion and am going to give it to you now along with my reasoning and observations.


    When writing to me initially, you made an effort to be friendly and informal, and tossed out some types and terminology at me in passing. In my experience, this is usually a good sign of an Fe-ego type


    Next, the pictures showed you as something of a "bad boy," with the "black leather" look a bit confusing considering your friendliness and seeming mildness. I found a couple of your friends rather forbidding in appearance. Your look wasn't one I was familiar with and didn't really remind me of anyone, but I began to lean towards EIE based on the spirit of the pictures, some of the facial expressions, and the kinds of friends you were with.


    In general in your videos you seemed a bit more sluggish, spacey, and mild than I would have expected from an EIE, and I added IEI and ESE to the list of types to consider.


    The first video about your friend basically firmly ruled out IEE. The qualities you appreciate in your friend are totally atypical for IEEs: things like "rawness," "not giving a shit," "people say he's an asshole," "he almost never gives compliments," etc. IEEs and in general Delta types value a certain interpersonal sensitivity and ability to give compliments and encouragement. The qualities you mentioned, and the language you used in describing your relationship, seemed typically Beta.


    You cracked me up in the second video, answering the question: "tell me about a concept that you feel strongly about." You chose "storytelling," which isn't even a concept -- at least in the normal understanding of the word; it's an activity or process. Which basically suggested a dynamic type, or IEI and EIE. The meaning you injected into the concept was 1) making an impact on people, and 2) creating meaning. In general these Fe + Ni themes seem the most important to you, and the vocabulary you use is generally related to these aspects. For instance, Ni: "there was emptiness there" (inside a person), "this world doesn't have to be a black void of nothingness." In talking about storytelling, your focus seemed to be more on Ni (the internal or spiritual experience) rather than Fe (the process of expressing). Also, your actual state when speaking seemed to be more Ni -- contemplating, dwelling, searching around inside yourself for something.


    The funny story you told had a more Se theme (crazy and risky situations). I wondered if an EIE would have let themselves be pushed over so easily. Most EIEs, I think, would have flown into a rage. Not that IEIs are necessarily pushovers, but the story suggested that you were definitely not in charge of the situation. Also, your storytelling style is really unrushed; one characteristic of ILIs and IEIs is that they tend to slow the pace of things down and dwell on them more than other people. I'd recommend looking up Garrison Keillor (IEI) on YouTube for some of his monologue stories from "Lake Wobegon." That's a perfect example.


    ESE can be ruled out completely because of your ease in imagining your future and dwelling on different scenarios. Plus, you really do use tons of Ni language. After the chat, I feel pretty confident in ruling out EIE, too. Normally, with EIEs I feel an underlying competition between us -- competition for decision making and steering the conversation (even when one of us is designated to be in charge). You, on the other hand, seem content to go along with others' initiative as long as you approve of where things are going. In speaking on a subject, you don't tend to inadvertently broaden the scope of discussion (as extraverts generally do), but focus on addressing only the subject in discussion. This is a fine distinction, but I thought I'd mention it.


    When describing the kind of people you are drawn to, you basically described a Se-leading type. I know one's self-typing can influence these kinds of answers, but your answer seemed believable in the context of your other statements, like ending up hanging around the house all day lost in your own thoughts.


    In talking about peace on earth and why it's not possible, you basically explained your position through Ni: "because things have been going on for sooo long." The theme of pursuing your dreams and dreaming big is also really typical of IEI. I have an article somewhere about how people life strive to achieve "pure Ti" or whatever their leading function is. Unrestrained Ni, I think, is exactly that: being free to dream whatever. For them materialization is less important than unrestrained dreaming, but they admire SLEs who try to materialize all their desires.


    So, if you haven't guessed by now, IEI it is!

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    I've got to be honest, I have a hard time picturing an IEE having a shaved cat in his/her avatar.

    I'm not sure if I've mentioned this, but you remind me a lot of the positive qualities of my sister's ex husband (though you appear to lack his many serious flaws, as far as I can tell). I hadn't figured out what type he is... I think IEI could work for him though.

    Anyways, I have no complaints with IEI.
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    That's great man. And bravo for Rick.
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    Thanks to you, Juju and Rick, for this - it's very cool to see the way you went about doing this and narrowing the types down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I've got to be honest, I have a hard time picturing an IEE having a shaved cat in his/her avatar.
    Haha I've actually had this same thought before!

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    can you post the videos that rick referenced?

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    *Edited for apparent 'controversy'*
    Last edited by duality is cringe; 10-17-2008 at 12:51 PM.

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    IEI is extremely evident in those videos. The first videos you posted when you first came here seemed different....a lot more as if IEE were possible. These leave no doubt in my mind you're IEI.

    You sort of look like Dane Cook

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    Those videos were not posted on this forum for a reason, DeAnte... Why did you do that? (Plus your editorializing is not appreciated.)

    Lest anyone think these videos are all Rick went off of to type me... We had an extensive Skype chat and email exchange as well... The whole process took about two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    This post is for those who are interested in how to type others accurately--the steps you should take, what you should look for in other ppl, etc.


    In general in your videos you seemed a bit more sluggish, spacey, and mild than I would have expected from an EIE, and I added IEI and ESE to the list of types to consider.


    The first video about your friend basically firmly ruled out IEE. The qualities you appreciate in your friend are totally atypical for IEEs: things like "rawness," "not giving a shit," "people say he's an asshole," "he almost never gives compliments," etc. IEEs and in general Delta types value a certain interpersonal sensitivity and ability to give compliments and encouragement. The qualities you mentioned, and the language you used in describing your relationship, seemed typically Beta.


    You cracked me up in the second video, answering the question: "tell me about a concept that you feel strongly about." You chose "storytelling," which isn't even a concept -- at least in the normal understanding of the word; it's an activity or process. Which basically suggested a dynamic type, or IEI and EIE. The meaning you injected into the concept was 1) making an impact on people, and 2) creating meaning. In general these Fe + Ni themes seem the most important to you, and the vocabulary you use is generally related to these aspects. For instance, Ni: "there was emptiness there" (inside a person), "this world doesn't have to be a black void of nothingness." In talking about storytelling, your focus seemed to be more on Ni (the internal or spiritual experience) rather than Fe (the process of expressing). Also, your actual state when speaking seemed to be more Ni -- contemplating, dwelling, searching around inside yourself for something.


    The funny story you told had a more Se theme (crazy and risky situations). I wondered if an EIE would have let themselves be pushed over so easily. Most EIEs, I think, would have flown into a rage. Not that IEIs are necessarily pushovers, but the story suggested that you were definitely not in charge of the situation. Also, your storytelling style is really unrushed; one characteristic of ILIs and IEIs is that they tend to slow the pace of things down and dwell on them more than other people. I'd recommend looking up Garrison Keillor (IEI) on YouTube for some of his monologue stories from "Lake Wobegon." That's a perfect example.




    When describing the kind of people you are drawn to, you basically described a Se-leading type. I know one's self-typing can influence these kinds of answers, but your answer seemed believable in the context of your other statements, like ending up hanging around the house all day lost in your own thoughts.


    In talking about peace on earth and why it's not possible, you basically explained your position through Ni: "because things have been going on for sooo long." The theme of pursuing your dreams and dreaming big is also really typical of IEI. I have an article somewhere about how people life strive to achieve "pure Ti" or whatever their leading function is. Unrestrained Ni, I think, is exactly that: being free to dream whatever. For them materialization is less important than unrestrained dreaming, but they admire SLEs who try to materialize all their desires.


    So, if you haven't guessed by now, IEI it is!
    I disagree the part about EIE vs IEI, I think most people type EIE as someone whose a very typical ennagram three, and they type other EIE by how they have the image of some EIEs they know, and they often mistaken people whose EIE to IEI. You guys need to know there is very peaceful EIE, theres competitive EIEs, and theres Low key EIES, just because the person talks more NI than Fe and are more polite does not mean they are IEI-FE, i type so much people in my world and found out alot of people think the EIE we know are an introvert but in reality they are naturally more FE than NI, i would really have to say EIE is the hardest to type because you just cannot compare them because they are dreamy, unrestrained and say he is an IEI, because alot of them have to do with SI polr. I am not saying JUJU is a definity EIE, but i do know he is either EIE or IEI.
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