I was just watching the Muppet Show on DVD, and I think Miss Piggy is a total ENFP! She throws herself at Kermie and wants to take care of him, but at the first sign of rejection, she karate-chops him!
I was just watching the Muppet Show on DVD, and I think Miss Piggy is a total ENFP! She throws herself at Kermie and wants to take care of him, but at the first sign of rejection, she karate-chops him!
Yes, I'm an ESFP.
My online nick has been Delta for YEARS--it has nothing to do with quadras.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"--RW Emerson
"everything turns away quite leisurely from the disaster"--Auden
"A word is a bridge thrown between myself and another"--M. Bakhtin
Hah, yup .... ENFps are like that!
Actually, I am sort of like that ... though, I am more likey to mop around feeling sad and unhappy than violent, and I would probably stop hanging around the girl.
Hooray for Kermit!
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I'm still watching the Muppet Show, and I can't help typing them! Here's my take on some of the stars:
Miss Piggy, ENFP
Kermit, ENTJ
Fozzy Bear, ESFP
Gonzo the Great, ESFJ
Bunsen, INTJ
Sam the Bald Eagle, INTP
What do ya'll think?
And what do you think about Statler and Waldorf (the geezers who heckle Fozzy)?
Yes, I'm an ESFP.
My online nick has been Delta for YEARS--it has nothing to do with quadras.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"--RW Emerson
"everything turns away quite leisurely from the disaster"--Auden
"A word is a bridge thrown between myself and another"--M. Bakhtin
On second thought...maybe Kermit is an ISTJ....Originally Posted by DeltaRho
Yes, I'm an ESFP.
My online nick has been Delta for YEARS--it has nothing to do with quadras.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"--RW Emerson
"everything turns away quite leisurely from the disaster"--Auden
"A word is a bridge thrown between myself and another"--M. Bakhtin
hmm........
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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Sam's not an INTp.
More likely ISTj.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
LOL
Cookie Monster: ESFp
Kermit: INFp?
Ernie: ENFp - and maybe Bert is ISTp Duality at work!
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I've always liked him. Any guesses on his type? And also Miss Piggy.
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)
Kermits a good guy...
INTp and ESFp, but I also have not seen the show in a long ass time
I dunno. I don't remember well enough. My only recollection is that he doesn't speak up when people are doing things to frustrate him... just makes a face. INxx seems apparent in any case.
nah he eventually freaks out waving his arms around and while yelling "ARRRRGHGHG!"Originally Posted by Joy
I agree, INxx, but probably INFj. Miss Piggy could be his supervisor.
I like this song...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thEiXbovv98[/youtube]
Me too.
It's very Delta.
My first thought was IEE, but Miss Piggy is LSE ftw so EII is worth considering.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I can see those two being stereotypical versions of delta rational couple.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Yeah I was kinda thinking INFJ or ENFP for kermit. But I could see INFP too.
Miss Piggy seems like an ESFJ or even ENFJ to me. But she could prob be an emotionally unstable version of a lot of types. And, of course, she's also a pig and a muppet. That makes it harder to tell
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)
Originally Posted by jewels
INFj for kermit.
pretty sure miss piggy is ESFx maybe ESTj. if she's a logical type then she's ESTj.
It is possible that she represents an ESFj and that Kermit and her have an Illusionary relationship.
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Yes, really.
IEE-SLI duality?
IEE-LSI conflict?
Something completely different?
Ernie: Ne-ENFp
Bert: Te-ISTp
Come to think of it, quite a number of Sesame Street characters seems rather Delta imo. Lol.
Yeah. Elmo is IEE-Fi, Big Bird is IEE-Ne, Cookie Monster is SLI-Si...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I could definitely see big bird being IEE, but not Elmo--too much annoying Fe!!! I'd say Elmo is alpha. SEI maybe??
LOL, i thought hard about what you said about cookie monster being SLI and you know, i can see it I think! Trying to remember way back if he's Fi-valuing at all... not sure about that. Cant remember if he had any Fi moments, maybe he did.
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Could Bert be LII? It does seem like it could be an unequal relationship, with Bert as the Supervisor who's always getting annoyed at Ernie's disregard for Ti order.
Bert: N-LII
Ernie: C-IEE
Quaero Veritas.
They can't be duals or conflictors because it's an asymmetrical relation.
Bert always gets annoyed by Ernie so Ernie should be Bert's supervisor, not the other way round.
Ernie: ENTp
Bert: ISTj
I'm pretty sure it's the Supervisor who gets annoyed by the Supervisee. The Supervisor sees the Supervisee as being in some sense "broken" and in need of fixing, and it can be annoying if the Supervisee doesn't agree and resists being fixed.
The Supervisee, if anything, is intimidated by the Supervisor, whose Base function looms imposingly over their Vulnerable function. To be annoyed is to feel superior, not inferior.
Quaero Veritas.
No, the supervisor sees the supervisee as someone who needs their help, and while the supervisor may get frustrated with a continued lack of compliance, they ultimate have an intrinsic appreciation for the supervisee as someone who is both similar to themselves (creative->base) and seems to need what they had to offer (primary->polr).
The supervisee, on the other hand, thinks that the supervisor overestimates their similarities (base->creative) and their own abilities (devalues dominant function), and feels "constantly watched," as though the supervisor is trying to correct every little mistake they make (polr->primary).
I think mirrors, particularly of opposite subtypes, tend to run into similar problems (role<->polr, creative<->base) on a sort of case-by-case/from time to time basis, but the ultimate similarity of their perspective and goals tends to override the minor frustrations.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
vs -PoLR math fail?
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Haha, I hadn't watched that video before now. That's totally LII>IEE supervision right there. Ernie is worried, because every option he considers (the whole opening sequence is Base-Ne) results in Bert getting mad at him. In fact, the whole video he's worried about Bert being mad. It seems to me to be an obvious depiction of Supervision, where the Supervisee, no matter how hard he tries, can't please the Supervisor. In the end, Bert is only happy because there's pigeons, not because he thinks Ernie did anything right.
Also, the clip ends with this interesting exchange...
Ernie: "Are you mad now, Bert?"
Bert: "No, I'm not mad, Ernie."
Ernie: "Oh. Oh good. 'Cause sometimes it's kinda hard to tell, Bert."
I think all 1-d Fe types can relate to getting comments like that.
Heh, yes, awesome. It makes sense as an LII, whose Base Ti is constantly concerned with justice and fairness and making sure everything is "correct", getting annoyed at an IEE, whose Vulnerable Ti is usually oblivious to such things.
I'm more sure now than ever that Bert and Ernie are N-LII and C-IEE.
...and now I feel a little silly for analyzing Sesame Street so seriously.
Quaero Veritas.
That makes sense. I'd think an LSI would take it upon himself to "make" it more equal, rather than just passively telling him how to do it, or at least be more vocally demandingHeh, yes, awesome. It makes sense as an LII, whose Base Ti is constantly concerned with justice and fairness and making sure everything is "correct", getting annoyed at an IEE, whose Vulnerable Ti is usually oblivious to such things.
I'm more sure now than ever that Bert and Ernie are N-LII and C-IEE.
yes...and now I feel a little silly for analyzing Sesame Street so seriously.
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