which do you tend to prefer/have better relations with/get along with more/etc.?
Which do you prefer: Mirage or Semi-duality?
which do you tend to prefer/have better relations with/get along with more/etc.?
I get along with both equally as well, I think.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Equally well with both I think, but semi-duals usually make for easier (but not necessarily better) long-term relationships.Originally Posted by glamourama
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I tend to get along more consistently better with semi-duals - there's rarely conflict, but sometimes there's a bit of indifference and/or lack of initiative. I have more varied experiences with ISTjs - with some I don't get along well with at all, with others I can become very good friends.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
i get along way better with ENFps than ESTps.
illusionary.
INTp
sx/sp
Mirage vs Semi-duality relationships
This ties in with Ezra's poll on quadra relationships. I think I know 2 ISFps and I get on quite well with them both so I do think that activity relationships are second in terms of compatibility after duality, followed by LII. Next, I think it would probably be a tie between LSE and ILE, which is what bugs me since from the name, I would assume semi-duality would trump mirage (and possibly identity and mirror).
What I find though is that EIE expect (and in some ways give off) more Se "vibes" than I am comfortable with. Reading wikisocion, I saw the whole moth and flame description and I can attest to that. Their Fe is very direct, and it always feels like I am being forced to be happy/excited etc. rather than 'gently led there' as with alpha SFs.
Does anyone else get this feeling, or the equivalent depending on type, with their semi-duals? I just think that the name is slightly misleading...
LII?
Semi-duality is wonderful, but with a sting; mirage is rather nice, and harmless. Do you want peace or joy?
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
I agree, buckland; I'm the same way. And Brilliand's description is quite good.
Somewhere else on this forum the possibility was mentioned that which you prefer (Semi-Duality or Mirage) may depend on your subtype. An irrational subtype LII would prefer LSE types, while a rational subtype LII would prefer EIE types. It holds true for me; as an irrational subtype LII I find I prefer the relaxation of LSE types to the drama of EIE types.
Quaero Veritas.
Hard question.
This is very interesting. Does this work the same way for all the types (the irrational, in this case with Ne, being attracted the the one that displays the counter-function, in this case Si)? Would an ILI-Ni be more attracted to SLE than IEE, for instance?
Yes; however, it isn't only a matter of which you like better, but of which you need more at the time. I think that moving between your mirage and semi-dual will be more comfortable than staying with either one.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Could you explain this further? I'm still new to socionics and don't follow this fully. Why would an irrational LII prefer mirage while a rational LII prefer semi-duality?
Honestly, that was a while ago and I don't really remember. I don't think I would agree with it anymore, anyway. It was just an idea I'd found and was toying with at the time, but which didn't really pan out. I've accumulated more data since then, and I now find that whether I prefer the company of EIEs or LSEs depends a great deal on whether our subtypes are compatible, and also my mood at the time.
Quaero Veritas.
the problem i run across w semi duals is that they expect Fi. and i so can't do that. the other problem is that i really need Fe, which they so can't do. essentially the problem is too much logic for me w semi duals. i guess this follows my having been married to an SLE for a long time though. so it could be that when you are younger you will go with semi dual. i mean SLE is not my semi dual, but what attracted me to him the most was his sensing/practicality. plus SLE is a little bit of a people pleaser, so his Se had a caretaking aspect to it. at least for a number of years.
with illusionary, the fit is a little more smooth since your role is their dual seeking and vice versa...i'm much more confident in role function than in polr. with illusionary the ethics/Fe balances out my logic in a way that works really well. on the other side of the coin though you can get into misunderstandings about Ne vs Ni. these take time to iron out.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Add to that that you're probably creative subtype after spending so much time with an SLE.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
could be...why do you say that? i mean, i think i agree that i'm prolly creative subtype. i don't know if it's because of him though? i've just come to conclude that there are not that many good practical applications in life for Ne leading.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
He consistently takesbetter than
, and you can do either... so over time you're going to favor
As for your statement that it isn't practical, I think that you're seeingthere... you don't use
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LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Imo,
Rational: Semi-dual
Irrational: Mirage
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