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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    i want to rub your blood on my chest and arms, and take a shower
    make sure the blood for the shower is coming strait out from the body, you wouldn't want it to be cold....
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post

    yes, it does.


    it isn't any kind of proof for one type or another. it isn't proof of anything type related actually. there are people of the same type that can tolerate him, and those who hate him. it barely has to do with type, more of the individuals patience and experience with people like ashton. for instance, ashton has the ability to highly offend my sense of right and wrong, yet i barely ever get the urge to react on it. while other people of my type (whatever type that is) are tempted to yell and scream and shout at him until they are blue in the face.

    getting along with ashton doesn't have to mean you like him, or like his behavior either.


    it's actually pretty hard for me to say one way or another. ashton himself doesn't seem that bad, however, he gets into these states where i would definitely not having him around in my life if i knew him IRL. he would be toxic and i wouldn't want to waste my energy trying to find a cure. i don't even get defensive anymore when he attacks people i love or otherwise...because all i see is someone throwing a fit for attention. like he might not even mean the horrid things he is saying...he's just saying them for some kind of attention or for reasons he isn't even aware of. i am in NO WAY saying that this excuses ANYTHING that he does or says. i'm merely explaining how i react to him, in his evil form and in his civil form.

    so, in conclusion...just because allie has gotten along with him at one point or another is absolutely irrelevant to her type. it's very ignorant and not to mention just plain stupid to continue thinking it does...at least from my point of view it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    it isn't any kind of proof for one type or another. it isn't proof of anything type related actually. there are people of the same type that can tolerate him, and those who hate him. it barely has to do with type, more of the individuals patience and experience with people like ashton. for instance, ashton has the ability to highly offend my sense of right and wrong, yet i barely ever get the urge to react on it. while other people of my type (whatever type that is) are tempted to yell and scream and shout at him until they are blue in the face.

    getting along with ashton doesn't have to mean you like him, or like his behavior either.


    it's actually pretty hard for me to say one way or another. ashton himself doesn't seem that bad, however, he gets into these states where i would definitely not having him around in my life if i knew him IRL. he would be toxic and i wouldn't want to waste my energy trying to find a cure. i don't even get defensive anymore when he attacks people i love or otherwise...because all i see is someone throwing a fit for attention. like he might not even mean the horrid things he is saying...he's just saying them for some kind of attention or for reasons he isn't even aware of. i am in NO WAY saying that this excuses ANYTHING that he does or says. i'm merely explaining how i react to him, in his evil form and in his civil form.

    so, in conclusion...just because allie has gotten along with him at one point or another is absolutely irrelevant to her type. it's very ignorant and not to mention just plain stupid to continue thinking it does...at least from my point of view it is.
    you're dead wrong. allie's association with ashton is among the most telling facets of her personality, not necessarily in the context of the fact that she deals with ashton, but i think that the manner in which allie subscribes to ashton's behavior and his ideals is an extremely pertinent application of her type. this is particularly evident as far as how it has affected her socionics conceptualizations, but not at all the only such application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    you're dead wrong. allie's association with ashton is among the most telling facets of her personality, not necessarily in the context of the fact that she deals with ashton, but i think that the manner in which allie subscribes to ashton's behavior and his ideals is an extremely pertinent application of her type. this is particularly evident as far as how it has affected her socionics conceptualizations, but not at all the only such application.
    Does she demonstrate this adherence to Ashton's insanity here on the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Does she demonstrate this adherence to Ashton's insanity here on the forum?
    um. yes.

    while she might take a "why flap my wings at something i can't change?" approach, it's very clear that a great deal of the way she interprets the topic is motivated by an approach very similar to ashton's. additionally things like her moral support towards somebody like dolphin and random interspersed beta comments (such as this) is evidence for how ashtonian affiliation has affected her viewpoint. note strrrng's reaction to the linked thread.


    she will also deny this has any influence on her thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    um. yes.

    while she might take a "why flap my wings at something i can't change?" approach, it's very clear that a great deal of the way she interprets the topic is motivated by an approach very similar to ashton's. additionally things like her moral support towards somebody like dolphin and random interspersed beta comments (such as this) is evidence for how ashtonian affiliation has affected her viewpoint. note strrrng's reaction to the linked thread.


    she will also deny this has any influence on her thinking.
    Makes sense.

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    no i am not trying to be cute. i really do want to murder you. i am fantasizing about it. i was saying i wanted to take a shower and wash blood off of me. although a shower in your blood would be interesting, but a little unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    no i am not trying to be cute. i really do want to murder you. i am fantasizing about it. i was saying i wanted to take a shower and wash blood off of me. although a shower in your blood would be interesting, but a little unrealistic.
    Is this all you got? It's really getting old, and it's got to be pretty embarrassing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    um. yes.

    while she might take a "why flap my wings at something i can't change?" approach, it's very clear that a great deal of the way she interprets the topic is motivated by an approach very similar to ashton's. additionally things like her moral support towards somebody like dolphin and random interspersed beta comments (such as this) is evidence for how ashtonian affiliation has affected her viewpoint. note strrrng's reaction to the linked thread.


    she will also deny this has any influence on her thinking.
    You're obsessed with this Ashton conspiracy, man. He's a guy like all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Makes sense.
    No it doesn't.

    Niffweed, you are losing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You're obsessed with this Ashton conspiracy, man. He's a guy like all of us.
    Of course he isn't. And what "conspiracy" are you talking about? To recognize Ashton's symptoms of mental illness and inherent rotten character has nothing to do with "conspiracy". If you want to call yourself a "guy like him", be my guest, but leave me out of it, for one.
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    Niffweed, you are losing it.
    Rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Rubbish.
    I would agree that it makes "sense" but only if it were actually true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I would agree that it makes "sense" but only if it were actually true.
    My "rubbish" comment referred only to your "losing it" comment. I don't have a firm opinion on niffweed's views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    My "rubbish" comment referred only to your "losing it" comment. I don't have a firm opinion on niffweed's views.
    And my "losing it" comment only referred to him believing with such certainty that what he says about me is true. I don't have a firm opinion on niffweed's mental state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I just think that "show me how her posts indicate Ni as a base function" is the same circular reasoning that is going on here:

    - I know that someone writes as someone with Ni as base function because they write like those I know have Ni as base function.

    It's like "he is Ni-dominant because he writes like the Ni dominants I know" and "if he does not write like the Ni dominants I know, then he is not a Ni dominant".

    Which is circular thinking at its best.
    Not the same thing. It is only showing evidence for why you believe a person is a certain type. Otherwise you are just spewing shit with no basis. It is not circular to ask for more information, when I have not seen the arguments for her being Ni base function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    Not the same thing. It is only showing evidence for why you believe a person is a certain type. Otherwise you are just spewing shit with no basis. It is not circular to ask for more information, when I have not seen the arguments for her being Ni base function.
    pointless, if your understanding of Ni is different from his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    And my "losing it" comment only referred to him believing with such certainty that what he says about me is true. I don't have a firm opinion on niffweed's mental state.
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    pointless, if your understanding of Ni is different from his.
    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    pointless, if your understanding of Ni is different from his.
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    ???????
    It isn't pointless to see evidence for someone's argument for typing another person. I was asking where the arguments for Allie being Ni base function are and / or for new arguments based on interactions with her, posts made by her, etc. Even if I "did" have a different understanding of Ni I would still want to know why someone else thinks she is Ni, so that I can see where that person is coming from. It is not pointless for me to have that new information.
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    niffweed looks like a spider in real life .

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    niffweed looks like a spider in real life .

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    That looks like something I would make.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    for some reason it creeps me out that you went on my myspace , saved my picture , and edited it

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    for some reason it creeps me out that you went on my myspace , saved my picture , and edited it

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    lmao @ this thread...a conglomeration of chaos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    She sounds like a stuck-up ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    you already biased and would discourage her to confirm if true. i want to know if i made a good connection besides her request to type herself. that sound a fair ISFJ description, i don't see any deviations.
    I think ISFj sounds like a safe bet for her type.
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    her annoyed side is coming out ... she was annoyed by you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    you already biased and would discourage her to confirm if true. i want to know if i made a good connection besides her request to type herself. that sound a fair ISFJ description, i don't see any deviations.
    Huh? Did you want me to answer something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros
    edit: do you guys think a SEE would feel uneasy to post a picture on a forum? let's be serious.
    If they knew that they would receive uncomfortable compliments on their looks, maybe. I don't think you should attribute such a trivial thing to a type. I mean, how the fuck does a function relate to that behavior? Does Se = confidence? I'm curious.
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    Ephemeros, what an horrible description of an ISFJ. In fact, I think an ENTP would be more likely to say half of those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    the only gain here for me was a small confirmation to myself (i have a lot of cases to study and i don't depend on this one in particular) and it is not your business. i had reasons to say what i said, the quotes and the subject are real, it was not my (invented) depiction. the rest was a help for you and especially Allie, to "try to find" her type, but looks that you don't need it!
    i didn't ask for anything in return, not even your unfounded accusations.
    i would have ignored the others if at least allie was interested, but this situation made me regret spending so much time on that hypothesis.
    the ones that asked me questions, please send them to me on prv if you're interested in the answers anymore because i won't ever post on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    actually, at the time i discovered she is ISFJ i was shocked, because i though Conflicting types interaction is catastrophic, but actually it is like "nothing helps, nothing is to be done".
    yeah, i'm beginning to think this is more descriptive of conflicting interactions. basically someone you can't understand at all rather than someone you necessarily can't stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post


    And why do you have Weird Al as your avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    the only gain here for me was a small confirmation to myself (i have a lot of cases to study and i don't depend on this one in particular) and it is not your business. i had reasons to say what i said, the quotes and the subject are real, it was not my (invented) depiction. the rest was a help for you and especially Allie, to "try to find" her type, but looks that you don't need it!
    i didn't ask for anything in return, not even your unfounded accusations.
    i would have ignored the others if at least allie was interested, but this situation made me regret spending so much time on that hypothesis.
    the ones that asked me questions, please send them to me on prv if you're interested in the answers anymore because i won't ever post on this thread.
    It is never helpful to post inaccurate, biased information.
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