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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I highly doubt it.
    All INFps think they're not INFp, at least at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    All INFps think they're not INFp, at least at first.
    "Only the true Messiah denies his divinity" - Life of Brian .

    So, if you think you're not INFp, it's evidence for your INFp-ness.

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Wait -- that means it's evidence that I am INFp, too?
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    "Only the true Messiah denies his divinity" - Life of Brian .

    So, if you say think you're not INFp, it's evidence for your INFp-ness.

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Wait -- that means it's evidence that I am INFp, too?
    Yes, you're INFp as well.

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    I'm also INFp (though I don't think I am, which means I am).

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    you're only INFp if you disagree with Te types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    you're only INFp if you disagree with Te types.
    You're also INFp if you don't think you're INFp, as stated earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    All INFps think they're not INFp, at least at first.
    Great. INFps are like the E6s of the socion. And I'm so counterphobic I think I'm .
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Great. INFps are like the E6s of the socion. And I'm so counterphobic I think I'm .
    Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Great. INFps are like the E6s of the socion. And I'm so counterphobic I think I'm .
    because many people who are typed E6 don't think they are E6?
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    INFp is a trash bin type in the same way that E6 is. Almost anyone can be INFp. Anyone can be E6.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    If I DID think I was INFp at first, this means that I'm actually not? Does it work both ways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    If I DID think I was INFp at first, this means that I'm actually not? Does it work both ways?
    Nope. You're INFp too.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    INFp is a trash bin type in the same way that E6 is. Almost anyone can be INFp. Anyone can be E6.
    But if you take that too far, people who actually are those types will think otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    All INFps think they're not INFp, at least at first.
    not true. I always knew I was INFp.
    (maybe I'm not INFp now! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    But if you take that too far, people who actually are those types will think otherwise.
    I see. People like me, then?

    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    not true. I always knew I was INFp.
    (maybe I'm not INFp now! )
    Nope. You're INFp.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I see. People like me, then?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    INFp is a trash bin type in the same way that E6 is. Almost anyone can be INFp. Anyone can be E6.
    That only makes any sense if you see a type as some sort of mark of social status here that depends on people's recognition to be valid.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    That only makes any sense if you see a type as some sort of mark of social status here that depends on people's recognition to be valid.
    It was a joke.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I have a question: do you have strong views on individuals here? People whom you clearly like, or dislike, and once formed, those views tend to remain more or less unchanged, unless something drastic happens? I mean views like "that girl is a good person" or "that guy is a contemptible asshole". In my own understanding of ISFjs, that is very characteristic of them.
    It is mostly "us against them" way of thinking with lots of generalizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    That only makes any sense if you see a type as some sort of mark of social status here that depends on people's recognition to be valid.
    lol @ this
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    Allie is not IEI! She absolutely does not have Ni as her first function! It seriously bothers me that people refuse to see this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    Allie is not IEI! She absolutely does not have Ni as her first function! It seriously bothers me that people refuse to see this!
    Are you usually seriously bothered by people who refuse to see what is obvious to you?
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    Allie is not IEI! She absolutely does not have Ni as her first function! It seriously bothers me that people refuse to see this!
    I revel in your misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Are you usually seriously bothered by people who refuse to see what is obvious to you?
    I am not bothered by the "people", I never said that. I'm bothered that people are basing her type on (probably incorrect) stereotypes of beta behavior instead of looking at how she uses the functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I revel in your misery.
    Well, I'm glad you have found something to revel in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    I am not bothered by the "people", I never said that. I'm bothered that people are basing her type on (probably incorrect) stereotypes of beta behavior instead of looking at how she uses the functions.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    lol
    ??? please explain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    I am not bothered by the "people", I never said that. I'm bothered that people are basing her type on (probably incorrect) stereotypes of beta behavior instead of looking at how she uses the functions.
    Ever considered that you might be basing her type on an incorrect understanding of how she uses the functions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Ever considered that you might be basing her type on an incorrect understanding of how she uses the functions?
    I have observed her and interacted with her in several different types of situations, not just her posts here, but also on aim and extensively on stickam. Others who know her quite well agree that she does not use Ni as her primary function. If someone who believes that she is iei could please lead me to some information about how she has written posts here indicates Ni base function then I would consider this possibility. ("getting along with ashton" does not count as valid information for typing. I am saying kind-of as a joke, but also because this has been an argument from several people, and I think it is silly.)
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    I have no precise idea of her type, and I voiced my tentative opinion only at her request.

    I just think that "show me how her posts indicate Ni as a base function" is the same circular reasoning that is going on here:

    - I know that someone writes as someone with Ni as base function because they write like those I know have Ni as base function.

    It's like "he is Ni-dominant because he writes like the Ni dominants I know" and "if he does not write like the Ni dominants I know, then he is not a Ni dominant".

    Which is circular thinking at its best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    ??? please explain
    You called them "the functions".

    *snicker*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy B View Post
    If someone who believes that she is iei could please lead me to some information about how she has written posts here indicates Ni base function then I would consider this possibility.
    http://forums.socionics.ws/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2008

    i hesitate a bit about harping on these threads especially as evidence, but i think that this case is extremely well documented in these threads which clearly you have no familiarity with.

    "getting along with ashton" does not count as valid information for typing.
    yes, it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    yes, it does.
    oh yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    oh yeah?

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    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    ?
    Exactly.

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    i want to blow off both of your heads and eat your brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    i want to blow off both of your heads and eat your brains.
    You are not in the least bit intimidating. It's cute watching your infantile escapades and desperate attempts to assert otherwise.

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    i want to rub your blood on my chest and arms, and take a shower

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    Well, someone is kinky.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    i want to rub your blood on my chest and arms, and take a shower
    Now you're just trying to be cute, but I'm afraid it's still all rather embarrassing.

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