I get into ruts a lot. Only thing that seems to get me out of them is a change of scenery, change of career, change of people I surround myself with, etc. It's much easier said than done though.
I get into ruts a lot. Only thing that seems to get me out of them is a change of scenery, change of career, change of people I surround myself with, etc. It's much easier said than done though.
Topaz.
Topaz.
Topaz.
Oh MY GOODNESSSSSS...
I feel like you're reading my mind.
I'd say about 75-80% of the time (continuous time, mind you) I'm in a rut or a funk, and that would include now. It is extremely difficult for me to climb out of extended ruts (like the one I'm in now) and it is quite frustrating.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Topaz, I'm sorry to hear this... I don't know whether to express empathy, (which you've got, believe me,) or advice... I'll just answer your questions.
To get out of a rut... I'll speak for myself: there must be new possibilities... I've been mired in ruts for months--addicted to drugs or some girl or just naval-gazing, as my I've heard it called, sometimes waking up whenever and doing nothing except eating... This usually happens for a period of several weeks during a given year.
Honestly, this happened to me a few months ago, just before I enrolled in a graduate journalism program... I'd been working a job that paid well, but did not satisfy me deep down... I wanted to feel like I was making a difference--to be more than just a cog in a machine.
Occasionally, during this rut, my thoughts would turn morose (Heideggerian)--i.e. "you're going to die someday--given that, what are you going to do in this limited time you have passing over the Earth?" Believe it or not, such thoughts would scare me into planning new projects. (In planning, I would think, "what are my main talents? What would I really like to do? Could that benefit other people?") Once I answered these questions, I'd devise potential strategies... From those, I would pick the one about which I felt best.
Once I began to work toward my goal, rut=gone.
I hope that you get out of yours soon., Tereg.. You too, tereg... I know that they can be very disheartening... And know that you have friends on this forum, both of you
P.S. I agree with everything that Jessica writes above too... All of those things have helped me in the past.
thanks for the sympathy and advice guys. Im not normally blase' and unmotivated. In fact I would think I would be the most psyched because Im not working in an office anymore. Im gong to school, majoring in what I love most: Art. Problem is I haven't been doing much of anything. I had planned to get all these paintings done and put together a portfolio I guess I just don't work well on my own. So I figure, well, even if Im not painting I should take a temp job. For some reason there are very few jobs. No one is calling. So I got time on my hands. No money and I feel so uninspired. I used to have a million ideas.
I know its just a phase though. Its happened before. No money, no honey, no calls, nothing and then POW!! It all ends and then everybody is calling and wanting me and Im super busy. So I just have to wait it out. Its like it happens in cycles. I don't know why.
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
haha, this is so true about the cycles. That happens with me a lot. No job, no calls, nothing... and then like you said, everything comes all at once. You just have to ride it out and accept that it'll pass but no one want's to hear that answer. And I'm with you on the job issue. I have been applying and posting my resume to places on a daily basis for the past few months and nothing...nothing. It's rough out there but things seem to always work out in the end.Originally Posted by Topaz
It just sucks when you have to wait for that end and you're far from it, doesn't it?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
It does but I've always held onto the belief that everything happens for a reason. I guess that makes it easier for me to deal with setbacks and ruts and what not. You learn from the tough times and you only grow stronger. I'm very good at letting life just happen.
That's pretty much how I see it happens in my life too actually.
As much as I have always wanted to be an independent individual, I have always wanted to have a friend (or a few) who will call me up to do stuff like this together. You see, I can't motivate myself to go jogging by myself. It's so much better in good company.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
HEY WINTERPARK, GUESS WHAT? THIS MEANS UR ESTP!!!
nah, I know what you mean. I'm the same way.
Not when your good company is Deltas, Ne EPs and enneagram 7s.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
It's interesting because I see my life in waves, different amplitudes of various states I find myself in. How deep of a rut am I in? Am I going uphill or downhill, etc etc.
This is how I feel. I just don't like doing that kind of stuff alone.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I 've been biking from time to time recently. What I have noticed is that my biking frequentness drops hugely when the two people I usually bike with are unavailable, especially for longer periods of time. To me, the joy of these recreations is not in themselves alone, but they are merely ways to spend quality time, interact with people, get closer to nature and experience life, besides of course maintaining and improving my physical and mental condition.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I know what you mean. So many of my old friends are married or just too busy or far away for me to call them up to do stuff like that spontaneously. I really need a good relationship right now. Thats the bottom line I guess.
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
I get into ruts very easily and very often. And it's also been hard to get out of them lately. I seem to posses a great lack of motivation, and it's hard to find the will and strength to get myself up and do things, even the ones I am "supposed to" or "want to" be doing. When I have a worked out plan and a concrete goal I am unstoppable until I get results but when I am not moving it's hard to get my ass to do anything. Change helps a lot too but I usually need others to present me with new ideas and prospects that I would be willing to do/undertake. I have only one Ne ego friend at the moment. I need more.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Poor kid. OK if I can give you advice then I can take it as well. Lets see...what would I say? hmmmmmm..... AH HA! You/I need to get some exercise and fresh air! that will clear our minds! OK Im going to take a jog. Let me know if this helps. I'll get back to you.
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
I would go out to take a jog but I just.... I just don't feel it.
I'm horribly uninspired, unmotivated... even, dare I say, unhappy right now.
And it's not the job, the job is good. I'm at a job also that pays well that is in an area that I do well in, where the other employees like having me around and where I feel like an integral part of the company. That's not the problem.
It's those stretches of days where I spend weekends without ever leaving my apartment, where I can't focus on things I need to do while I'm at work and I'm extremely unproductive. Weeks, months where I do the same things day in and day out without much variation. Sure, there's some variation but it's just not enough. It's just fermenting stagnation. Change of scenery? I think about that a lot, but then I think, is that really addressing the issue? Is that really going to fix the problem, because it's basically a band-aid.
I feel like I'm constantly wasting time. I try to work up the energy to start on a task, going "Ok, when I sit back down at my desk, I'm going to ____" and I sit down at my desk, and I just can't. And then some issue comes up at work that I get to work on for an hour or two unrelated to that "one thing" I know I need to work on, but yet it still feels like "Oh, cool, I finally did something somewhat productive. Ok, maybe I can finish _____ now." It's like I just won a small battle. Usually this is when there's not much going on at work and I have time to work on these side things.
It's not boredom. I have things that I know I can do. I've just been unable to get jump started on those things.
Even on more personal type of tasks. Like I the other day I started working on the IEE type description on the wikisocion (so that it can finally be finished!) and I actually wrote out the Ti and Se parts, and I was going to write out the Super-Id section after that, and I just couldn't get jump started to start writing it. I had everything out that I wanted to read over before I started, and I just couldn't really get through it.
That's where I'm at.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I am starting to feel like your identical, guys.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
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