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Meant to reply with quote, not sure how my finger slipped to constructive.
I know an EIE who is very similar to Brand in many ways, I'd even say his second typing is IEE, which I see others going with. He's very smart and can come off quite T, but anyone who truly knows him would see this is not the case. He seems quite connected to Brand.
Btw, Brand is right. He was a bit in that dude's face on the one vid, lol, but he's right on everything he's saying.
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The problem I have with the EIE typing is that his ethical functions don't seem convincing to me. EIEs have a much more genuine, convincing attitude. Russel Brand is playing his role a little too obviously. In Brand I see extreme Fe activation + creative subtype but NeTi spinning under the hood.
There are of course C-EIE comedians, but they are different from him. In Sweden there is Jonas Gardell for example.
EDIT: I've reconsidered: Brand could actually be EIE
Last edited by Tallmo; 11-08-2019 at 04:36 PM.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I see your point Tallmo, that is quite plausible. He does seem a bit childlike as well, I was noticing even moreso in his interview with Morrissey I posted in Morrissey thread
Extremely obvious ILE, reminds me of fellow ILE's Jim Carrey and Alan Watts
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Garry Shandling was another EIE comedian
He looks a ton like this actor Jimmi Simpson to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmqZD6Y-ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKD8MK3PUk
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Where be the man and woman EIE? Maybe I'm so deadset on socionics right now because I want to know where to find my dual LOL
Picked up very similar mannerisms, body language out of those two and similar eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmqZD6Y-ao
Robots from the same factory with different skin and voice.
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I like her shoulders
he looks like an effeminate dramatic narcissistic borderline psychopath. Which is a very usual look for an EIE.
lol @Ragdoll Cat
>looks at the first video op posted
>how do people type him as ILE
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And I'm almost pretty sure
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Joe Rogan seems to quite like him, lol, has anyone typed Rogan?
yes he could be.
I'm pretty sure of Jonas Gardell as EIE-C since I've watched his stand up performances.Those two do seem bit similar. That smile, lol.
yes IEE definitely. But there are cases of ILE don juans also.But #2 candidate for Don Juan is... IEE. Logical types are mostly incapable of being one.
Anyway, I've slept a few nights now since my last post and I have to admit that Brand could be EIE.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Btw, another argument in favor of EIE. Most of his humor comes from Fe, Ti is more supporting it. Heavy emphasis on delivery, intonation, timing, voices, talking to the crowd, "acting". He uses a lot of flowery language and embellishments that serve little purpose other than dressing it all up and image crafting. The presentation is the main event, his personality. He has clever jokes, but its more about being invested in and knowing him as a person.
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By showing indirect maneuverable aggression towards their targets over time and exhausting them to give in to their demands in the process of lasting for several days? That is the only way I could see it (and I do not practice it and would rather stay alone but I've seen it in media coverage of few individuals).
That is because ILE's tend to be categorically affective if it makes sense. It is kind of hard to push beyond that.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The SLI typing by Sol actually made me laugh, so I appreciate that.
Only Si PoLR can pull this off
https://www.gq.com/gallery/russell-brand-gq-worst-dressed-man-2012
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Is it weird that his sense of fashion is not what I dislike about him?
Actually I don't dislike him.
Brand has charisma, is smart and I agree with a lot of his ideas politically and such, but I do wonder how is actual character really is.
When I took a brief (very temporary) interest in kundalini yoga I saw that he had YouTube classes. Didn't watch any. I wonder about the people who did and what they're like.
I always found him ostentatiously dislikable, and even if I didn't watch those videos, they kinda warmed me to him? A little bit? Like the kind of person with enough hubris to make public kundalini classes... kinda cute by virtue of interesting and vicariously embarrassing.
I agree with everyone who says EIE.
The man's an FeNi beast. How is ILE even on the table? O.o
There was an interview with Adam Curtis (SEI) that could suggest supervision, but he was just so awkwardly over the top, it really was cringeworthy. Someone mentioned bipolar and he is likely an E7, but most EIEs I've observed just control themselves better, even if trying to induce a reaction or whatever.
4w3-5w6-8w7
EIE
I'm jealous.
Russell Brand is a comedian. He has practiced comedy for years and years, and one of the main tenets of stand up comedy is Ne, it only makes sense that for his "Stage persona", an emphasis on the element is present. Meanwhile if you actually go into his more private, candid moments, there is a blatant emphasis on Fe and Ni. The long term visions he had for his life as a kid that came true, the sense of battling for significance he expresses and the dramatic language employed to convey all of this. Russell Brand is a very troubled EIE. Conan O Brien described his first meeting with him by mentioning Brand's pre stage ritual as approaching comedy as "Life or death", which I struggle to see an ILE do (o Brien is one).