On reversing Gammas role in the disintegration of our minature society

[Joy]

2: Joy needs to have someone who is competent in socionics ~personally train her~... ~intensely~, on how the functions work. As of right now, she has a bullet statement oriented understanding of the functions, where a function is identified as literally a "happening of events in reality". The problem with this perspective on the functions, is it renders it impossible to understand relativity between functions. This results in a massive confusion in labeling whether, for example, something is "Ti creative or Ti demonstrative or Ti dual seeking". Ti is simply observed as a happening in reality, and then its relevance to other functions is labled completely arbitrarily based on and confused with happenings of exertion, & previous skewed subjective impressions / misinterpretations of material she has read. You can very clearly observe this phenomenon in almost every socionics related post she makes.

I won't apologize that my explanations are generally written from a Te > Ti perspective. However, I am willing to consider the possibility that I should have more patience for the Ti needs of individuals (it is largely a Ti theory, after all) when explaining functions. And this applies to individuals of all types, not just Fe/Ti individuals.

If you would like to have an in depth conversation about information aspects/elements, find me of yahoo IM. (My ID is charismatic_irony. I also have AIM but don't usually use it, so we'd have to arrange a meeting via PM if you would prefer to use AIM.) If I have the time and am in the mood (like I said, it requires a certain amount of patience on my part, patience which is not always readily abundant in me) to get into the subject in great depth. Sometimes it would seem like fun though. If you want to catch me at such a time, you're best bet would be before 2:00 pm or so, CST. My daily schedule varies per week (since I largely work by appointment).

[Joy]

This thread reminds me of those by tcaudilllg. It's only more humorous.

I don't know, I find tc's threads like this more humorous because they're about such obscure things and have a much more... satire... feel to them. When I read them I don't even know where to begin if I'm thinking of offering a response. I just sit there with my mouth open, slowly shaking my head for a moment and then say, "Honey, did you see this?" It takes a bit of translation to get to the point of what's being said, and at that point I'm not sure if I understood it.

In crazedrat's post in this topic, I think I understand where he's coming from and what he's saying for the most part, though I'm not sure I understand exactly what interpretation of Socionics he's looking to perpetuate. This is why I'm interested in discussing each of the information aspects with him one on one. I want to determine where the differences in understanding are.

[Khamelion]

Did someone say Gamma SF sexual punishment of Gamma NT? Because I'm like..... totally into that shit, lol

i want a gamma NT to punish sexually

[Joy]

lol, I have no idea what you guys are talking about with sexual punishment stuff... If Peter wants me to do (or not do) something, all he usually has to do is say so, perhaps in a teasing way. Sometimes he has to bitch at me a little bit, but that's usually not necessary.

[Khamelion]

lol, I have no idea what you guys are talking about with sexual punishment stuff... If Peter wants me to do (or not do) something, all he usually has to do is say so, perhaps in a teasing way. Sometimes he has to bitch at me a little bit, but that's usually not necessary.

imo...the fact that you comply with my wishes with only playful objection and resistance is the whole point. the punishment part is just a fun way of thinking about it i guess.

[hoodrat]

lol, I have no idea what you guys are talking about with sexual punishment stuff... If Peter wants me to do (or not do) something, all he usually has to do is say so, perhaps in a teasing way. Sometimes he has to bitch at me a little bit, but that's usually not necessary.

Whether or not you know it, you probably get "punished" regularly, lol

[hoodrat]

imo...the fact that you comply with my wishes with only playful objection and resistance is the whole point. the punishment part is just a fun way of thinking about it i guess.

exactly!

[Khamelion]

exactly!

grawwrrrr

[HollywoodWanderer]

Maybe using the word fuck a few more times would help.

[crazedrat]

alpha needs a manifesto written for them, too, but i can't be the one to do it

[implied]

Maybe using the word fuck a few more times would help.

lmao. yes. always helps to get one's point across.

[Logos]

alpha needs a manifesto written for them, too, but i can't be the one to do it

Alpha does not need one. Manifestos are too rigid. It is not something I want to be held to collectively.

[Ezra]

Joy been a naughty girl then?

lol @ the fascist perv