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    OK in the spirit of producing posts per another thread:

    What do the fellow Gamma types here like to read? I'm a big Sci-Fi / Fantasy reader, and am currently doing a re-read of George R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" series, in anticipation of his new release later this year - "A Feast for Crows." By far the best fantasy series I've read to date, so I highly recommend it.

    I also regularly read Entrepreneur and FSB (Forbes Small Business), and the occasional GQ so I can sound like I know what I'm talking about regarding in-styles w/ my wife (a very well dressed ISFJ).

    I'm always looking for a good read, so let me know what some of you would recommend, regardless of genre.

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    Lewis Carroll is nice. The Alice books are definitely well worth a read.

    Stephen King's Dark Tower series is an excellent ENTJ experience.

    Roger Zelazny's Amber series is one of the best mind twisters around.

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    I read The Dark Tower Series, very very very good. I highly recommend it.

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    Sci-Fi and Fantasy for myself as well. I read a LOT, so I won't bother with specific books - just a list of authors whose work i've enjoyed over the last few years:

    Robert Jordan
    Isaac Asimov
    Arthur C. Clarke
    Eric Flint
    Robert Asprin
    Robert A. Heinlein
    George Martin
    Frank Herbert
    Nick Pollotta
    R. A. Salvatore
    David Weber
    Lois McMaster Bujold
    Jim Butcher
    David Eddings
    Neil Gaiman
    Terry Pratchett

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    I've read about 80% of everything the writers above have ever written, so I feel quite safe recommending these names...
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    Borges, Marquez

    Both ILIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by inconnu View Post
    Borges, Marquez

    Both ILIs
    Marquez? I just got pissed off by his work. I should be more clear but haven't read it in years...~4/5

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    The hangman and the papist.

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    Stanislaw Lem, ILI
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    Balzac - ILI
    Kissinger, Umberto Eco - LIEs

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    Quote Originally Posted by inconnu View Post
    Umberto Eco - LIEs
    I have serious doubts about Eco being a Ni ego. I've only read Foucault's Pendulum, but, it seems like Eco is parodying Ni users with his parades of Satanists and Kabbalists and Aryan cultists who all have a distinct vision of the future. I think his love of information (Te) is genuine, but he seems to collect it in a compulsive, thirsty, dual seeking way. I'm inclined to call him a weak Te valuer with Ni in the Id block, or a Delta NF.

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    CS Lewis
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    CS Lewis
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    Neal Stephenson - Anathem
    Neal Stephenson - Cryptonomicron
    Robert Fiest - Magician
    Ian M Banks - Excession
    Ayn Rand - The Fountainhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Neal Stephenson - Anathem
    Neal Stephenson - Cryptonomicron
    Robert Fiest - Magician
    Ian M Banks - Excession
    Ayn Rand - The Fountainhead
    I'm pretty sure Beta ST makes more sense for Ayn Rand.

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    I highly doubt Rand was Gamma (Beta ST!). Ugh, god damn Rand type discussions... "Let's argue about socio-types and politics at the same timeeeeeeee!!!!1!!@@"

    w/e I will not submit to that, just mentioning I disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    I highly doubt Rand was Gamma (Beta ST!). Ugh, god damn Rand type discussions... "Let's argue about socio-types and politics at the same timeeeeeeee!!!!1!!@@"

    w/e I will not submit to that, just mentioning I disagree.
    i was going to ask @InvisibleJim about that, if he was typing rand gamma or if it was just something about that particular book. i didn't really care enough but since you brought it up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i was going to ask @InvisibleJim about that, if he was typing rand gamma or if it was just something about that particular book. i didn't really care enough but since you brought it up lol
    A function of the philosophy of the book.

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    Jack London, of course.
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    people keep bringing up type representatives ahh i was kinda hoping for contemporary stuff but i wasn't going to put that limitation down so i guess that's the consequence.

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    why not jack london? (i read some biographies on him in HS and i wouldn't be surprised if i read these things again, if i'd think he was gamma)

    well maybe you weren't saying not jack london

    i'm having a horrible day with wanting to jump to assumptions/conclusions

    (that was an @ FDG kind of thing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    why not jack london? (i read some biographies on him in HS and i wouldn't be surprised if i read these things again, if i'd think he was gamma)

    well maybe you weren't saying not jack london

    i'm having a horrible day with wanting to jump to assumptions/conclusions

    (that was an @ FDG kind of thing)
    I'm sorry? I was really saying Jack London, wasn't being sarcastic!
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    k, sorry.

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    I see some of them were typed differently but always end up in Gamma. Interesting.

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    I may have posted this before but I think the book Hannibal is LIE/ESI duality

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    Pavel Tsatsouline books if you are into working out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I read him a bit before (that's how I got into kettlebells). He's Ti-ESTp imo.
    No way man. I am certain he's ENTj.
    Have you watched some of his videos?
    I bet if you watch one of his videos you are going to change your mind.
    Watch this short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL30WSaFJu8
    All you see here is Te leadership. Also he has a vision, deep knowledge of his thing (Ni).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkworker View Post
    No way man. I am certain he's ENTj.
    Have you watched some of his videos?
    I bet if you watch one of his videos you are going to change your mind.
    Watch this short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL30WSaFJu8
    All you see here is Te leadership. Also he has a vision, deep knowledge of his thing (Ni).
    There is no point disagreing with Ashton, he practices socionix, which is his own warped, albiet predictable version of socionics. In classical (read strictly orthadox, and exclusively adhearent to quadra values) soconics you actually deviated from his perspective in the proper way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    There is no point disagreing with Ashton, he practices socionix, which is his own warped, albiet predictable version of socionics. In classical (read strictly orthadox, and exclusively adhearent to quadra values) soconics you actually deviated from his perspective in the proper way.
    Whatever this guy's type may be, I don't know if "Te leadership" and "a vision, deep knowledge of his thing (Ni)" are great arguments. If those are good arguments for "classical Niffweed Socionics," then er... okay I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    There is no point disagreing with Ashton, he practices socionix, which is his own warped, albiet predictable version of socionics. In classical (read strictly orthadox, and exclusively adhearent to quadra values) soconics you actually deviated from his perspective in the proper way.
    ftr, from that video, what I got from it was that the man is a "constructivist" and some logical type. That really only leaves SLI, ILI, SLE, ILE. This makes your claims transparent, as Reinin is part of socionics and it is not in contradiction to Ashton's typing.

    and fyi, from what I've seen/read, Ashton's views are not really incongruent with classical socionics, but disregard everything that has been debunked about classical socionics - mostly anything that amounts more to a stereotype or generalization. And that doesn't make his views warped, it makes them better reasoned and it makes socionics warped to expect people to use them.

    And I think what people have a problem with is understanding Ashton's views because he steers away from stereotyping or generalizing them, making it hard to explain or present them. But that doesn't make them "different" from socionics either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
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    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
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    Don't want to derail this, so do you have reasons why somewhere? I really don't see it

    @InvisibleJim No on rand, but there's other threads on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    people keep bringing up type representatives ahh i was kinda hoping for contemporary stuff but i wasn't going to put that limitation down so i guess that's the consequence.
    How about Gabriel Garcia Marquez? Books positively SEEP Ni, probably ILI.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    How about Gabriel Garcia Marquez? Books positively SEEP Ni, probably ILI.
    i just bought love in the time of cholera and it has been next on my list to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i just bought love in the time of cholera and it has been next on my list to read.
    I've only read Tale of a Death Foretold but it was damn good. A little confusing but very good.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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