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    Here is a non-staged video, showing a casual interaction between me, (ENFp,) and my friend, smccosker, (mostly likely ISTp,) as he cooks a steak.

    Please respond as to whether you believe this indicates that Sean is ISTp... He would genuinely like to know. Thank you.


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    Holy shit, how he stabbed that meat with the fork - the -meter just went off the charts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    I still think you're either a very lazy ISTp, or an equally lazy ESTp.

    It's a hard case though... I invite other people to say what they have to.

    i think an equally lazy ESTp isn't out of the question. i see no real reason why an ESTp can't cook a steak and how knowledge of teflon pans is somehow the magic bullet for ISTp. my own father, who i believe is a fairly "obvious" ESTp (since we're apparently hung up on that term) is quite lazy and inactive outside of work.
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    Your mannerisms and expressions and tone are dead on with mine. You just talk a lot more than me

    How long are you guys hanging out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Your mannerisms and expressions and tone are dead on with mine. You just talk a lot more than me

    How long are you guys hanging out?
    I think he sounds and talks just as much as me. So, whatever that's worth.
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    smccosker seems like a probable Te-ISTp to me.

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    Don't mind me, i'm a mute.

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    @smccosker - why is juju your dual in your own words? another video response would be great if you care to do one.
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    it's hard for me to get past the feeling that juju has a crush on him. juju, you seem to act like a giddy schoolgirl. and even seemed to want to kiss him in that other video of you two.

    if that's not true, so be it. but, that's the "feel" i get from your interactions...(unless other ENFps kinda act like giddy schoolgirls... )

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    I think I'm definitely leaning towards SLI after watching this video. I was able to pick up on quite a bit of Te creative. It reminded me of the SLIs I know.

    Keep the videos coming! I'm enjoying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Your mannerisms and expressions and tone are dead on with mine. You just talk a lot more than me

    How long are you guys hanging out?
    Til tomorrow probably...

    These cases for SLE--I would like to hear someone elaborate... Implied or jxrtes, (as those are the two primaries pushing for that type.)

    New types have been suggested for me in the other thread... INFp most prominently... I would like to hear anyone make a case for that as well... I will be genuinely open to it--Sean is open to whatever anyone says too, regardless of type... We're just trying to get to the bottom of it, and appealing for help.

    BTW, kissing... wtf?! we're friends. (Hi dmbmama!!! internet kiss to you.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Curious. Why do you think I'm pushing SLE?
    Sorry, I'll correct myself: beta ST... (E.g. that large post in the other thread.)

    dmbmama, lol!! I do feel kinda giddy around him, and yes, ENFps sometimes act "giddy." (See: 'silly switch'--the infamous silly switch.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    New types have been suggested for me in the other thread... INFp most prominently... I would like to hear anyone make a case for that as well... I will be genuinely open to it--Sean is open to whatever anyone says too, regardless of type... We're just trying to get to the bottom of it, and appealing for help.
    well then, i think you're beta duals. and i'm sure you'd never agree with me on this thus i don't give a shit to argue it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Til tomorrow probably...

    These cases for SLE--I would like to hear someone elaborate... Implied or jxrtes, (as those are the two primaries pushing for that type.)

    New types have been suggested for me in the other thread... INFp most prominently... I would like to hear anyone make a case for that as well... I will be genuinely open to it--Sean is open to whatever anyone says too, regardless of type... We're just trying to get to the bottom of it, and appealing for help.

    BTW, kissing... wtf?! we're friends. (Hi dmbmama!!! internet kiss to you.)
    SMACK! back atcha!

    you just caught that one?

    i wasn't sure what the ENFp silly switch "looked" like because i have a silly switch but it's not the same as yours. yours is cute, mine is more physically manic.

    sorry i can't really give you a good idea between types for your friend's type. i admit to not being very good at seeing the differences yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i think an equally lazy ESTp isn't out of the question. i see no real reason why an ESTp can't cook a steak and how knowledge of teflon pans is somehow the magic bullet for ISTp. my own father, who i believe is a fairly "obvious" ESTp (since we're apparently hung up on that term) is quite lazy and inactive outside of work.
    Nobody said such was a magic bullet for ISTp.

    And, I don't think that "why is he your dual in your own words", honestly, is going to reveal much. It's just going to be a regurgitation of whatever he knows about socionics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Nobody said that cooking a steak was a magic bullet for ISTp.

    And, I don't think that "why is he your dual in your own words", honestly, is going to reveal much. It's just going to be a regurgitation of whatever he knows about socionics.

    well i'd like to know outside of socionics then what it is that is attractive about juju to him. i mean there was certainly enough talking up about how well they got along in the first video ("he's like a hot piece of toast and i'm like butter.") i don't see any reason why he can't extrapolate on that and list some qualities.
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    Oh, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Heh, my Ti-ESTp dad is a chef. It's annoying when Si gets associated with things like that.

    yeah, i know. even reading the meged/ovcharov duality descriptions ISTjs are described as being good housemasters or wtfever and how this is useful to ENFjs. like an ISTp is the only one who can fix a car or cook a fucking steak.
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