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  • IEE (ENFp)

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverthesame View Post
    LOL at the idea of an EIE being hot.

    And what's wrong with the suggestion that Trent Reznor might be a LII? If you think that a LII can't sing, play musical instruments and be addicted to strippers, steroids, alcohol, drugs and rock music, then you don't really know so much about this type. Some LII's have actually lived crazy lives before calming down at a certain age.
    If you read my posts I've said nothing about any those things, they have very little, if anything, to do with my typing of Reznor as IEI/very likely not LII.

    My assessment of Reznor's type has mostly to do with the nature of his music, the emotions conveyed, his lyrics, manner of self-presentation, and visual resemblance to other IEIs.

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    @Gilly

    Rereading that statement of mine, I realize now it sounds rude and offensive. Which is not what I wanted to say at all, on the contrary, in fact I wanted to give you a compliment. Well, nevermind...
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    "Ni"N Anyways, this song is pretty awesome:

    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Se-less Ti, not Ni

    by no means Sx/so

    I don't know where others see sx/so. mby they just wanna push him against a wall and unzip his pants or smth.
    he has Sp tight motionless lips, kinda lifeless eyes, and constricted look. he reminds me of Galen's sp/sx public fetish. That may explain the apparently-Ni cut-veins hallucination lyrics.

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    Couldn't be more ILI
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    Quote Originally Posted by handjob View Post
    Couldn't be more ILI
    def a gamma introvert

    gamma has the coolest introverts*, if I do say so myself

    *and extroverts

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    I think he's ILE. For a minute I was thinking LII but this is Benefit, not Semi-Duality:



    And it shows Trent does showcase some Fe

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    I love Trent Reznor, he's one of my most favorite people. I vote Ni-dom for him, probably ILI, gamma for sure.


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    LSI
    He sits as though he owns the place, despite being an Enneagram 5, who is known to be disconnected from the body.
    He constructs a mental palace full of sounds, each one meaningful and indicative of a feeling or mood. There is a tremendous refined order to it, a world within worlds within worlds when it comes to meaning and technological proficiency. In order to do what he does, he has to pick apart a lot of computers, programs, music theory, instruments.. there's lots of Ti fodder.
    He is nothing if not willful and focused. Having spent half my life in music studios I can say with confidence that what he does is far more complex and intricate than even his fellow top musicians are able to break down. His songs are more difficult than most to cover, his time signatures are insane yet very 'ordered' in their own way, his machines create an order of their own! And that internal, highly original structure is *embodied* in his music. Ti-Se.
    His lyrics are a pointed, bold assertion of his highly subjective "felt and believed" truth. (Very Ji.) Inferior Fe pours out in the overdone , overdramatic, "YOU BETRAYED ME," "YOU LIED!" .... it's arguably a powerful Se-boosted inferior Fe release. His lyrics also read as if his proficiency in emotions and relations is quite weak, but his will to exert them behind the safe bars of a controlled setting, a "tower of self and machines," is huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    LSI
    He sits as though he owns the place, despite being an Enneagram 5, who is known to be disconnected from the body.
    He constructs a mental palace full of sounds, each one meaningful and indicative of a feeling or mood. There is a tremendous refined order to it, a world within worlds within worlds when it comes to meaning and technological proficiency. In order to do what he does, he has to pick apart a lot of computers, programs, music theory, instruments.. there's lots of Ti fodder.
    He is nothing if not willful and focused. Having spent half my life in music studios I can say with confidence that what he does is far more complex and intricate than even his fellow top musicians are able to break down. His songs are more difficult than most to cover, his time signatures are insane yet very 'ordered' in their own way, his machines create an order of their own! And that internal, highly original structure is *embodied* in his music. Ti-Se.
    His lyrics are a pointed, bold assertion of his highly subjective "felt and believed" truth. (Very Ji.) Inferior Fe pours out in the overdone , overdramatic, "YOU BETRAYED ME," "YOU LIED!" .... it's arguably a powerful Se-boosted inferior Fe release. His lyrics also read as if his proficiency in emotions and relations is quite weak, but his will to exert them behind the safe bars of a controlled setting, a "tower of self and machines," is huge.
    Really interesting take on it. I still think he's 100% ILI, though. His wife is even SEE.



    But if he truly is LSI then I'll have to go back to EIE again lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Lessons View Post
    Really interesting take on it. I still think he's 100% ILI, though. His wife is even SEE.



    But if he truly is LSI then I'll have to go back to EIE again lmao.
    Haha.
    I don't know. I need to look into his wife, but at a glance she looks like a perfect statuesque woman, more often associated with EIE-Fe. Someone who always strikes the perfect pose, with tremendous emotion in her eyes, an ethereal beauty. This is just glancing at photos - I'll research more.

    Remember that Te is pragmatic. There is nothing "pragmatic" about the depths of what he is doing, even if it does yield concrete results. There is also nothing in his performance or the way he talks, to indicate Fe PolR. He changes his voice when making a point, is somewhat conscious of his presentation in short spurts, and otherwise very oriented in his body (fidgeting etc).

    What he is doing is oriented toward logic.. breaking down computer language, theory, different parts of a song etc. That particular process is much more Ti than Ni.
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    Her voice, by the way, is very NF ethereal rather than Se "embodied."
    Her body language is still and serene, like EIE-Fe mannequin. Every expression is picture perfect, controlled, not too much motion or bluster.
    I vote she is EIE-Fe.



    Ethical subtype Fe-ENFj (Fe-EIE)

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    Fe-EIE Appearance:
    The ethical subtype is internally very emotional, but usually modest and restrained in expression of his feelings. Unobtrusive in conversation, tries to behave according to the rules of good tone and manners. Vulnerable and easily takes offense. In his heart and soul he often experiences dramatic emotions, but around strangers hides and tries to control them. It is difficult for him to truly relax, inside he is tense and high-strung, vulnerable and quite self-loving. Has a lot of insecurities, from which he usually suffers but tries not to show this. Outwardly can be proud and unapproachable. Usually secretive and careful, exercises foresight and thinks things over in advance. Somewhat unsure in himself, but has patience and perseverance, and knows how to attain his goals. Very demanding in requiring others to observe ethical norms of behavior, and often cannot hold himself back from making remarks or giving advice when he sees that someone, from his point of view, is not behaving correctly. Characterized by swings of mood. Can be coldly haughty, stubborn, and demanding, then soft, heartfelt, considerate, and even vulnerable and defenseless. Holds himself with dignity. His movements are precise, but smooth, sometimes demonstrative. Dresses modestly and with taste, but if he wishes can look very effective.

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    Inclined to constant analysis of people and events. Thinks a lot about moral and ethical issues. Tries to instill in others his own understanding of various phenomena or his worldview, to help avoid mistakes in life in general or in specific activities.

    Exercises foresight and caution. Senses impending dangers, knows how to take the necessary steps to avoid it. Inclined to dramatize events and to warn others about possible trouble. Tries to caution and safeguard people close to him from making wrong steps. Can show excessive initiative, even seem somewhat imposing. With strangers he is charming and helpful, usually tries to make a good impression. Warm and welcoming, has a wide circle of friends, open and sincere with them, but to a limit.

    While he foresees further development of events, he doesn't like to rush them, hesitates making a decision, wavers, weighting out all the "pros" and "cons". Doesn't like when he is hurried. Ignores the attempts of others to impose any other pace. In conversation, gives a lot of attention to details.

    Often takes the initiative in making acquaintances and contacts. Oriented at correct, appropriate, polite attitude towards himself. Needs sensitive, attentive, careful relation to his person, intolerant of familiarity in communication. Self-loving, sensitive and vulnerable, for a long remembers offenses and insults. Respects people not only for their personal qualities and achievements, but also for their position in society. Tries to understand the motives and predict future actions of people around him, to give them timely advice.

    A romantic in his soul, put feelings above reason. Emotional, with difficulty hides his sufferings and emotions, but in deeds usually demonstrates caution. Only after carefully weighting everything out can make a radical decision. After that, not inclined to make compromises. He would rather suffer a defeat than renounce his beliefs, as he has a tendency for self-suggestion. Distrustful by nature, skeptically oriented, critical towards the actions of others. Appreciates words, but prefers concrete evidence of affections and practical services. Nitpicking when it comes to his outward appearance, takes care of his looks and his manners of behavior.

    Values ​​his authority and reputation of a serious person. Distrustful of unverified information. Afraid to make a mistake, prefers to share responsibility for some assignment or task with someone else. Proactive, operative, diligent, seriously considers work that was assigned to him. Does not like doing several things at once, but when he feels that he cannot delay any longer, can with much energy and vigor complete a significant bulk of work within a short period of time.

    Usually focused on important problems, from which it's difficult to distract him. In the interests of his project or business, turns to other people to fulfill small requests and assignments, fearing that he might lose sight of something important. Accurate with details in his work, brings everything to its finish. Strives toward order and aesthetics in everyday life. Meticulously about his appearance, following the appearance and behavior.

    Has difficulty attaining an inner balance. Due to this, is often in suppressed mood. Overly suspicious, prone to seeing dangers, proud. Doesn't like when he is being observed and watch, inclined to do his household tasks when nobody can witness him. Sufficiently self-critical, mistrustful of compliments in his address. Painfully endures criticism of his appearance and behavior.

    Fe-EIE Description by Victor Gulenko: Very emotionally excitable, can be sharp. Shows high intensity of emotions. Decisive and artistic. Easily given to ecstasy, high affect, exaltation. Has aristocratic manners. Frequently a good speaker, or a political leader with patriotic inclinations. Internally dramatic and spontaneous, likes to demonstrate his opinion. Outwardly he can shock people around him by extremes in how he dresses: may looks like a homeless person with soiled sleeves, or, to the contrary, dress very brightly, vividly, or aristocratically extravagantly.

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    I agree with most of the people here, him being ILI and his wife looks SEE. His latest EP is amazing with only 5 songs, but the album before that was a flop and he even had to explain for about 40 minutes at the end of the album, and I wish it was more dynamic. Pretty dark music, but really soothing.

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    His music and lyrics has always made sense to me, but is very dark in a way that makes me a bit depressed. Definitely negativist I would say. And definitely lots and lots of Ni. Even his VI has the "staring at some Faraway place" mode Ni valuing types have. Definitely NT and Ni valuing so since he is not LIE, ILI is the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay View Post
    I love Trent Reznor, he's one of my most favorite people. I vote Ni-dom for him, probably ILI, gamma for sure.

    I think so too, and I am not stroking my own ego here. This is pure recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post

    I think so too, and I am not stroking my own ego here.
    Sure it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Sure it's not.
    When I say something I mean it. But I suppose since you are misinterpreting me, you have a different point of origin when you communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    When I say something I mean it. But I suppose since you are misinterpreting me, you have a different point of origin when you communicate.
    The fact that you have to deny that you're stroking your ego is the only thing that makes you sound like you're stroking your ego. If you just cut off after "I think so too" that wouldn't've come off as ego stroking at all, and "This is pure recognition," just comes off as thou doth protest too much to me. All of the typing the same as famous people is ego stroking. I'd say it's OK since that's a lot of what typology is for, but denying it is pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    The fact that you have to deny that you're stroking your ego is the only thing that makes you sound like you're stroking your ego. If you just cut off after "I think so too" that wouldn't've come off as ego stroking at all, and "This is pure recognition," just comes off as thou doth protest too much to me. All of the typing the same as famous people is ego stroking. I'd say it's OK since that's a lot of what typology is for, but denying it is pointless.
    Ugh, white noise. I don't find explaining myself to some random insect enjoyable. So I won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Ugh, white noise. I don't find explaining myself to some random insect enjoyable. So I won't.
    You can deny the truth all you want. I am no insect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    You can deny the truth all you want. I am no insect.
    *Autism increases*

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    He doesn't actually care, he is just good at channeling people who do. Like an interview he is asked what he thinks about X, and he asks somebody else. "I don't know. What do I think?" He reminds me of Marilyn Manson, and myself, in that they believe in nothing but act like they really care. They can channel Fi but are really like, "whatever" about it. You expect them to have these firm opinions but they are just looking for a reaction.

    Regardless of type, both these guys are much less serious irl than their personas.
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    His music and lyrics has always made sense to me, but is very dark in a way that makes me a bit depressed. Definitely negativist I would say. And definitely lots and lots of Ni. Even his VI has the "staring at some Faraway place" mode Ni valuing types have. Definitely NT and Ni valuing so since he is not LIE, ILI is the answer
    They make me feel strong. "There is no time to discriminate, just hate every motherfucker that is in your way." I know I am going with his hits but this is a march. I am ready to go . lol. And afterwards he commented how blacks were particularly uncomfortable because they are so religious. He knows people and targets them. Oh shit, I thought we were talking about Manson. lol. For a minute there, I lost myself.

    I don't want ya, and I don't need ya. Try to resist and I'll beat ya. It's not your fault you are always wrong, the weak are there to justify the strong. That is not in Reznor's songs. It is Nietzsche like shit actually. Manson. The hatred of weakness. That is will to power and Se seeking.

    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tearsofaclown View Post
    They make me feel strong. "There is no time to discriminate, just hate every motherfucker that is in your way." I know I am going with his hits but this is a march. I am ready to go . lol. And afterwards he commented how blacks were particularly uncomfortable because they are so religious. He knows people and targets them. Oh shit, I thought we were talking about Manson. lol. For a minute there, I lost myself.

    I also like that kind of lyrics but I try to limit listening to Manson it brings out my nihilistic tendencies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    I also like that kind of lyrics but I try to limit listening to Manson it brings out my nihilistic tendencies
    Does the opposite to me. Makes me want to get up. Which fits with Se seeking. Se seeking wants a strong personality to lay down the gauntlet for them and make them prove themselves.

    Well actually that may apply more to EIE. LIE has Te and can make decisions. Don't need others to light their fire. EIE have no idea what to do with themselves and cant stick to anything. Fe is impressionable that way. I have said before that Fe is the most gullible function. But it eventually learns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tearsofaclown View Post
    Regardless of type, both these guys are much less serious irl than their personas.
    Exactly. This is what annoys me about all this nonsense. Trent Renzor's persona isn't even that good. If is Fi is horrible, his Ni is worse, as far as his music goes. He might be some ILI businessman, but the music is not really deep or dark or expressive of any type, ditto with Marylin Manson. It's why I was annoyed at goths in high school as well. It's just a 24/7 Halloween party, not really dark or deep or weird. I say there's less Ni than Fi in Trent's music because it's all ranting about relationships and not much intracite symbolism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Exactly. This is what annoys me about all this nonsense. Trent Renzor's persona isn't even that good. If is Fi is horrible, his Ni is worse, as far as his music goes. He might be some ILI businessman, but the music is not really deep or dark or expressive of any type, ditto with Marylin Manson. It's why I was annoyed at goths in high school as well. It's just a 24/7 Halloween party, not really dark or deep or weird. I say there's less Ni than Fi in Trent's music because it's all ranting about relationships and not much intracite symbolism.
    Agreed but I wanted to comment that I hated goths in high school too. lol. Same reason. The more you try to be different, you more you act the same.

    Like biker gangs. You aren't free. You just found another system that dissolves the self.

    I was watching something on German biker gangs. I always say this mindset is 6. They asked a guy what he would do if he wasnt in the gang. He says he doesnt know. It gives him meaning. He has no purpose without it . Exactly. Goths, bikers, punks, all 6s. lol. And I consider the need of the herd like that to be weakness. You need a gang of people to feel tough. You can't be anything on your own. I despise that. It is cowardly.

    There was this guy on per c who wrote pages, hundreds of them about being a sociopath. I dont talk about it, I am it. lol. Like Dali said, I dont need drugs. I am drugs. "You smoke this shit to escape from reality? I don't need that shit. I AM reality. "




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    Lee is the opposite of these guys, he is much deeper than he appears. Malcolm X is another who is deeper than he seems. And that is the real issue here. goths think they are intellectually superior to "jocks" like X and Lee. No. lol. These guys know philosophy and poetry.




    anybody who expresses themselves through their appearance I got some Shakespeare. I have no crown. My crown is content.


    Second Keeper
    Ay, but thou talk'st as if thou wert a king.
    KING HENRY VI
    Why, so I am, in mind; and that's enough.
    Second Keeper
    But, if thou be a king, where is thy crown?
    KING HENRY VI
    My crown is in my heart, not on my head;
    Not decked with diamonds and Indian stones,
    Nor to be seen: my crown is called content:
    A crown it is that seldom kings enjoy.
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    Hi! I think Trent Reznor type is : ISTP-L

    Myers-Briggs : ISTP-L (Limbic, not Calm) (I) 61,25% (S) 80% (T) 80% (P) 92,5%

    Big Five/OCEAN : RLUEN

    Enneagram: 8w7(sw7w6) Ennatype 8 - Level 4

    Socionics : SLI

    Disc : (SI) Steady, Influencial

    Don Riso Subtype : The Entreprising Adventurer

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    I rather believe that his wife, she's INTP - Enneagram 5w4(sw6w5) - Socionics LII.

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    ILI

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    ILI

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    ILI.

    His wife, Mariqueen Mandig, seems Fe-EIE and that regardless of Reznor's type.
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    I think he is SLI.

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    the narrowest eyes are associated to Ni dominants by Augusta ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    His wife, Mariqueen Mandig, seems Fe-EIE and that regardless of Reznor's type.
    IEI


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    ILI-Ni. Definitely a gamma introvert like me.
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    I thought mbti-istp LSI he likes equipment and he’s got ITR with Gary Numan mbti-intj ILI. They are friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Trent Reznor - ESFJ - Hugo

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    lmao
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    Just rename this place Beta Central lmao
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    The only problem socionics has given me is a propensity to analyze every relationship from the lens of socionics and I also see that it is worse in my boyfriend. Nothing makes any sense that way and it does not really solve any problems.





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    I liked Broken and The Fragile, the angry depressive energy with the unique sounds and lyrics.

    His type.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Just rename this place Beta Central lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    The only problem socionics has given me is a propensity to analyze every relationship from the lens of socionics and I also see that it is worse in my boyfriend. Nothing makes any sense that way and it does not really solve any problems.





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