John Stossel explains why socialized health care is retarded

[Gilly]

That's exactly how things are now.

Ummm...the United States government does not provide any public healthcare as far as I know.

[Rocky]

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[HollywoodWanderer]

Belgium, the uk, and south korea spend half of what the us does per capita and they cover their ENTIRE populations. The us uses its health care system as just another method to harvest its population's dwindling resources.

[discojoe]

Belgium, the uk, and south korea spend half of what the us does per capita and they cover their ENTIRE populations. The us uses its health care system as just another method to harvest its population's dwindling resources.

The actual care is more expensive because it's not shitty. Why do you think so many people come to the US for cancer treatment? To save money? No. It's because they don't want to die.

[force my hand]

The actual care is more expensive because it's not shitty. Why do you think so many people come to the US for cancer treatment? To save money? No. It's because they don't want to die.

Why do Americans go to other countries for healthcare, then, if it's so top quality?

...ohhhh, right....

There's a trade-off, my friend, and ignoring it on ideology alone isn't going to prove much.

[akeaneau]

The actual care is more expensive because it's not shitty. Why do you think so many people come to the US for cancer treatment? To save money? No. It's because they don't want to die.

Stop filling this forum with your right-wingishness!

[Logos]

Stop filling this forum with your right-wingishness!

I may not agree with discojoe's views, but at least he is putting up a hard argument. Where are your counterarguments?

[FDG]

This discussions is pathetically ideological.
Remember that economics should be aimed at bettering welfare, which has a clear psychological component. Which, in turn, means that competition is to be considered better as long as the utility function of the members of the society says so. So, saying that competition always leads to a better outcome may be true in strictly practical terms (but not always, given that in certain occasions cooperation is definitely much more efficient), but we should also consider the global effect of this kind of view.