The Dark Knight

[duality is cringe]

I'm going to see it again in 10 minutes!

[Hitta]

Batman was probably Gamma NT(though quite possibly Beta ST). The Joker was definitely Alpha(I don't really see any other possibility). Alphas have this way of seeing society for what it really is, just a bunch of people playing along for their social comforts. I actually related to the Joker in a lot of ways(though I'm not planning on killing people).

[Joy]

I could also see ILE for Joker, but like I said initially... he's too insane to tell.

[Logos]

I could also see ILE for Joker, but like I said initially... he's too insane to tell.

Thehotelambush also proposed IEE in theme with the law (Batman - LSI) vs. chaos (Joker - IEE) theme.

[Joy]

Yes, well... I still think Batman is more likely ESI (in Batman Begins and Dark Knight). Also, I don't see IEE's as representing "chaos", and there are other types that make more sense for Joker than IEE.

[Logos]

Yes, well... I still think Batman is more likely ESI (in Batman Begins and Dark Knight). Also, I don't see IEE's as representing "chaos", and there are other types that make more sense for Joker than IEE.

And I happen to still think that Batman is more likely LSI (in Batman Begins and Dark Knights). I do think that the Joker had a Ti-PoLR.

[Gilly]

I don't think the Delta Quadra in any way represents or encompasses "chaos;" if anything, they are the paragon quadra of stability.

I think that Batman and Joker could actually feasibly be duals: they fight for the same territory, if you will: they both try to "improve" upon society based on what their ideals dictate, without regard for the opinions of others and disregarding some of the practical consequences. Pretty Beta if you ask me.

And that comment Joker makes about them "needing" each other, and not being able to kill each other (the Joker for "fun," Fe, and Batman for his "principles," Ti). I think LSI-EIE duality isn't a bad choice for the two of them, although it's not a set-in-stone opinion.

[Rubicon]

I think the Joker's SEI. He said something about "just doing ... not knowing what he'd do if he got what he was chasing" ... sounds like Si to me - enjoying the ride, not caring about the destination. I think the "Do I look like a man with a plan?" thing was true in part, in the sense that he seems to use tactics rather than strategy. Like he has a vague idea of "if they do this, I'll do this", but no concrete plan.

I don't think he's IEE because he seems to be too within himself. He's so caught up in his own little world of feelings that he's able to somehow believe himself superior to others in that he's 'real' while everyone else is fake. He falsely predicts what the people are going to do in the ferry situation because he is too caught up in his own feelings and assumes that at heart, people are as inherently selfish and twisted as him.

And his face paint thing is SEI all over. (c: He's got scars, so he works with them and makes them his trademark. lol