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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 11:02 PM.
Suomea
What is fake negative Fe? Purposely acting like an asshole to someone you like?
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
waaah waahh wahh I'm so sad wahhh wahh just give me what I want wahh wahh
ok thanks, yep I'm fine now
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Do you mean pretending to be more upset than you actually are?
I'm sure I could do this if I tried, but why would I want to?
I can do this if the situation calls for it, but it's definitely not something I like doing.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I think it's probably the opposite for me. If someone's completely oblivious to what I'm feeling, I will probably choose to come out and tell them if it is something/someone I deem important or I move on from it if I don't think it is worth it. Exaggerating any type of emotion in order to ellicit a response would feel too much like emotional manipulation.
Yeah, it is manipulative I guess. But I'd only do it as a last resort ... if someone doesn't believe me when I tell them how I feel because I look too calm. I'm thinking of my LSI mother in particular actually, which come to think of it, makes sense because she's Fe-seeking. I can open my heart to her, telling her how i feel, and she just thinks for a second and says "No, that's not right." or something ... just because I guess she's looking for an intensity of passion in my delivery that matches what I'm saying I feel. So I can exaggerate my emotions out of frustration, just to get her to believe that I'm feeling what I say I'm feeling. I hate doing that, but i feel I have to sometimes in order to be understood.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I didn't really think what you were describing was manipulative, Jem. It seemed more that it was necessary to convey how you were feeling, and amplifying the intensity to sort of get it across because the other person didn't see it or wasn't convinced.
when I was in elementary school and high school I would occasionally pretend to be sick so I could take the day off. There was always a strategic element to this as I made sure never to miss a day that was actually important. My little sister (IEI) does this too I've noticed. She conveniently misses the maximum alotted absence slots available to her each semester (but still gets good marks so is completely justified in doing so). The term for such behaviour as this is malingering lol.
INFp-Ni
I can see how this would work between people that value Fe. I think you explained it very well. Another difference that jumps out at me is that someone not believing me will cause me to shut down more, rather than increase the intensity of my emotional expression. In these instances, the only thing I can do is show my feelings through actions. I've also noticed that when this happens sometimes I'll go into trying to explain myself in a Te way, which just makes me look really, idk, stiff and unconvincing. I grew up in a family where I was encouraged to show Fe. Like you said, they didn't believe it unless they saw the emotion clearly on my face or through my words. The more they pushed though, the more unable I became in doing so. I did sometimes find myself using Fe in this way to avoid conflict or maybe also to onvercompensate. It did always and still does leave a feeling of "fakeness", of "not me."
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Last edited by marooned; 07-28-2008 at 10:37 PM.
Probably I've done it sometimes out of pure frustration with my LSI father. I mean, we usually get along well, but sometimes he asks me to do things I don't want to do and I don't have time to do - I first try to convey slightly that I cannot do them with a change of my tone of voice, but when he comes back two or three times I can get a bit sick of it
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I didn't think you were...Originally Posted by ifmd95
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 11:01 PM.
Suomea
In that case, I think some children might be good at it... but adults often become so trained to behave themselves, even when their internal thoughts represent the emotional maturity of Donald Duck.
I feel in the end I am taking advantage of a person in a way... of their good spirits. I mean not a lot of people really want to listen to you just kind of.... exaggerate emotions. It's just silly and easily mocked. Which is why I never understood acting.
But hey it helps us cure our own pain by making fun of others. So who wants to snark on Dawson's Creek with me?