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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Uh... okay. I'm sorry to bring this up yet again, but holy crap, dbmmama, you are probably the forum member I am now most annoyed with. Everything you say is so devoid of logical thought and so incredibly airy-fairy. You think you were once an angel? You are too "into" yourself and your own ways of thinking/feeling that you can not see another's viewpoint and merely "agree to disagree" with them. Stop. Please stop.

    You know absolutely nothing about Socionics and come up with ludicrous reasonings for your own type. I can't help this sense of dislike towards you, I never have had such an occurrence before, especially online, which seems quite silly. There is no one else I have been more annoyed by. Every time I read your posts I have a need to roll my eyes at their content and form.

    You are proud, too proud of your own "revelations" towards what is meaningful towards life. I think it is just the fact that you base so much of your ideas and impressions on subjective feelings and you ignore the facts, the logicality behind things. There is NO way you are a logical type, absolutely none, and unfortunately, I do believe you are just a deluded EIE. I very, very highly doubt SeFi for you. I think an ILI would be incredibly pissed off with your thought processes and such. A certain type of LSI would however, desire someone like you.

    A lot of what you post is purely FeNi. You're just all about the dramatics, the emotional expression. You use all-caps to make your emphasis, etc. The Ni comes through and I think that is exactly what annoys me - your use of Ni. You talk as if you had a great power with it and you are some extraordinary "all-seeing" individual ... uhm, right. You need to learn some humility in regards to that function, pretty please ? Your desires to "keep active" are not reminiscent of an Se leading type. I rarely find Se leading or even Se ego types "brag" about how they need to move unless directly questioned of it or something. The Se hidden agenda is quite evident in you - you like to think of yourself as Se dominant, like to think of yourself as intimidating, strong, powerful, physically active, etc. There is a huge difference between it being natural and it being something you knowingly work on and are conscious of.

    I think you really need some sense knocked into you by an LSI. Yep, that's right. Someone to really flesh out the theory of Socionics for you and set it in your mind. I'm sorry for all the rudeness, I'm not sure what has gotten into me. Meh. I thrive on the controversy.

    Err, I perhaps should not have posted this here. Ah well. Oh look, an EIE is doubting themselves, right here, right now! Ooh!
    extremely interesting post. My analysis - Scarlettlux is EIE like I've been saying for a year or so, dbmmama is ESE who is all about her Ni-PoLR and Scarlett sees right through that. I have to admit, I skip dbmmama's posts more often than not because of the same emotions as Scarlett mentioned - it's too fake-deep for my taste. So this is a matter of Ni-creative vs Ni-PoLR.

    and scarlettlux EIE doubting is how she never really settles on a type. (and no, Gilly, that does not make you EIE)
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    You're as untypable as Ezra bro.
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    gilly def not EIE, dbmmama does seem EIE. just my opinion though, kriistina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    You're as untypable as Ezra bro.
    I think they're both very much able to be typed - it's just that they enjoy "not" having a set type, changing things up a bit. I don't know if they'd admit that though Or perhaps I am projecting? I don't think so. It's just fun to consider random possibilities and it all out. Then realize at the end, deep down, who you are has never changed and you knew it all along!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    extremely interesting post. My analysis - Scarlettlux is EIE like I've been saying for a year or so, dbmmama is ESE who is all about her Ni-PoLR and Scarlett sees right through that. I have to admit, I skip dbmmama's posts more often than not because of the same emotions as Scarlett mentioned - it's too fake-deep for my taste. So this is a matter of Ni-creative vs Ni-PoLR.

    and scarlettlux EIE doubting is how she never really settles on a type. (and no, Gilly, that does not make you EIE)
    Kri - I think I agree with you. I don't usually feel this way about my fellow identical EIEs. I know we are identicals ... but dbmmama, does feel exactly like that -- "fake-deep" ! I can't stand it, I think that is precisely what annoys me in all her posts.

    I have nothing against her as a person, honestly ... little things irk me, that's all. This is one of them.

    I dunno about ESE though... that was actually my initial gut impression of dbmmama and I did tell her that. Hmm, the way she speaks does remind me of one ESE friend I have whom I have had major issues with in regards to her Ni PoLR. Whenever she tries to engage in that kind of Ni talk, it seems so contrived and over the top to me, that I just get annoyed, similar to this.

    It is also funny how dbmmama is just not replying to my points (valid too I must say) regarding the content of her posts. I would like to understand her more and mean no real ill intent. Yet she only is happy when people compliment, not criticize. Just take it in, take it in!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Kri - I think I agree with you. I don't usually feel this way about my fellow identical EIEs. I know we are identicals ... but dbmmama, does feel exactly like that -- "fake-deep" ! I can't stand it, I think that is precisely what annoys me in all her posts.

    I have nothing against her as a person, honestly ... little things irk me, that's all. This is one of them.

    I dunno about ESE though... that was actually my initial gut impression of dbmmama and I did tell her that. Hmm, the way she speaks does remind me of one ESE friend I have whom I have had major issues with in regards to her Ni PoLR. Whenever she tries to engage in that kind of Ni talk, it seems so contrived and over the top to me, that I just get annoyed, similar to this.

    It is also funny how dbmmama is just not replying to my points (valid too I must say) regarding the content of her posts. I would like to understand her more and mean no real ill intent. Yet she only is happy when people compliment, not criticize. Just take it in, take it in!
    i am taking it in. just pondering what you guys are saying about the Ni PolR thing.... i'm not sure what to say about it right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    It is also funny how dbmmama is just not replying to my points (valid too I must say) regarding the content of her posts. I would like to understand her more and mean no real ill intent. Yet she only is happy when people compliment, not criticize. Just take it in, take it in!
    I don't think it's funny at all. You tear her character and personality to bits, then say you have nothing against her as a person. What the?? If you were really concerned about her, you would have PMed her instead of insulting her in front of everyone. "I would like to understand her more"????? You expect her to open up to you after what you've said about her? How self-conceited and arrogant can you get?!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    I don't think it's funny at all. You tear her character and personality to bits, then say you have nothing against her as a person. What the?? If you were really concerned about her, you would have PMed her instead of insulting her in front of everyone. "I would like to understand her more"????? You expect her to open up to you after what you've said about her? How self-conceited and arrogant can you get?!!!
    LOL, I probably should have pm'd her, I was thinking of that. But what the hey, I didn't. Big whoop. I don't think I "tore her" to pieces, really -- that's your opinion. I was absolutely civil about it and I don't think that makes me conceited or arrogant, thank you very much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    LOL, I probably should have pm'd her, I was thinking of that. But what the hey, I didn't. Big whoop. I don't think I "tore her" to pieces, really -- that's your opinion. I was absolutely civil about it and I don't think that makes me conceited or arrogant, thank you very much.
    What makes you conceited is that you're implying that she should be grateful for your 'honesty'. That she's supposed to change or something based on one stupid girl's opinion of her posts. Get over yourself.
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    Kam, chill the fuck out and stop being so goddamn righteous. Let the girl speak her mind; she's not saying anything hurtful or overly harsh. What do you care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Kam, chill the fuck out and stop being so goddamn righteous. Let the girl speak her mind; she's not saying anything hurtful or overly harsh. What do you care?
    You'd have to be made of stone to not be hurt by stuff like that directed at you.
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