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    Elro, it may be that I don't really talk to Gilly enough, but I personally see him as more Ti-valuing than Ti ego. It really came as no surprise to me that he decided to make a case for EIE. And I definitely don't see IJ temperament at all. Unless of course you're joking, in which case that was a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    If Loki isn't an ISTp, how in hell are ISTps supposed to be??
    That's what i was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Elro, it may be that I don't really talk to Gilly enough, but I personally see him as more Ti-valuing than Ti ego. It really came as no surprise to me that he decided to make a case for EIE. And I definitely don't see IJ temperament at all. Unless of course you're joking, in which case that was a good one.
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    I dunno, I just don't see Loki as having weak Fe. That's all, really.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I dunno, I just don't see Loki as having weak Fe. That's all, really.
    It's understandable. It comes out later, when I've known people for quite some time. The Fe weariness, I mean.

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    Maybe, but I think that might be the case with most people. It is with me, anyways; I'm not super "Fe" when talking to people I'm comfortable with.

    When an Fe-PoLR uses Fe it's usually pretty awkward and evident. You seem more natural, less forced; you might put some effort into it, but it doesn't seem like it's a REAL chore or obstacle for you.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Gilly, do you believe we are identicals?

    I think that's, you know, bitchin'.


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    I thought you were infp?

    I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Maybe, but I think that might be the case with most people. It is with me, anyways; I'm not super "Fe" when talking to people I'm comfortable with.

    When an Fe-PoLR uses Fe it's usually pretty awkward and evident. You seem more natural, less forced; you might put some effort into it, but it doesn't seem like it's a REAL chore or obstacle for you.
    I've learned ways around my PoLR because you're right, It always feels awkward. It's easier with people I don't know because, well, it's pretty hard to feel anything with people you hardly know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    I've learned ways around my PoLR because you're right, It always feels awkward. It's easier with people I don't know because, well, it's pretty hard to feel anything with people you hardly know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I thought you were infp?

    I give up.
    Yeah, I thought I was. I'm a bit of a bastard when it comes to this obviously.

    I can only apologise for changing so much. I denied EIE because I didn't consider my self Fe valuing at first but I was under the wrong impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
    : )
    Well well if it isn't my old friend Mea. Long time

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    Yeah, I thought I was. I'm a bit of a bastard when it comes to this obviously.

    I can only apologise for changing so much. I denied EIE because I didn't consider my self Fe valuing at first but I was under the wrong impressions.
    What you're my conflictor now?!

    Goddamnit Leon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    What you're my conflictor now?!

    Goddamnit Leon!
    What! Can we not be friends?

    What do I have to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Saturn View Post
    What! Can we not be friends?

    What do I have to do?
    Naw I'm exaggerating. I haven't hated any of my conflictors.


    Yet. That and you're real cool anyways. Maybe you could teach me how to play with a diabolo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    Naw I'm exaggerating. I haven't hated any of my conflictors.


    Yet. That and you're real cool anyways. Maybe you could teach me how to play with a diabolo.
    Ah, awesome.

    If you want to learn then I can try to teach you. The circus is awesome.

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    I see you as Beta NF. I see you having more of an Fe focus than myself, though it very much seems to be Beta Fe.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I see you as Beta NF. I see you having more of an Fe focus than myself, though it very much seems to be Beta Fe.
    Are you not also ENFj? Sorry, I have not been up to date on the discussion.

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    I think I read in this thread wondering who actually was an ISTp. Well it's a feckin good cert to take me as a benchmark example of ISTp, and that's a fact.

    But seriously LokiV, i don't really think i've saw you debate stuff and also show PoLR signs like the way is observed in our type. At end of day mate only you know yourself and it's up to you to decide if you got your type spot on. I wanted to say that previous sentence there because I don't want some sort of mob mentality of 'LokiV ain't an ISTp' etc and cause I like you too . So food for thought at same time.

    So also..

    In that thread, yeah you said in that thread in Delta just today maybe, that you'd hate you're dual if they weren't analytical. Why you'd expect an ENFp to be analytical, much less hate them for it is really odd. It does sound like Ti seeking on your part as well as I do sometimes think you are being far too good with Fe to have it as PoLR. I mean does it ever flare up? Do you ever show signs of ISTp stubborness like I do as well?

    I dunno, food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclops
    In that thread, yeah you said in that thread in Delta just today maybe, that you'd hate you're dual if they weren't analytical. Why you'd expect an ENFp to be analytical, much less hate them for it is really odd. It does sound like Ti seeking on your part as well as I do sometimes think you are being far too good with Fe to have it as PoLR. I mean does it ever flare up? Do you ever show signs of ISTp stubborness like I do as well?
    Oh, I don't know. ISFp can be pretty stubborn too. I see it in Jem sometimes, makes me want to give her high fives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I think I read in this thread wondering who actually was an ISTp. Well it's a feckin good cert to take me as a benchmark example of ISTp, and that's a fact.

    But seriously LokiV, i don't really think i've saw you debate stuff and also show PoLR signs like the way is observed in our type. At end of day mate only you know yourself and it's up to you to decide if you got your type spot on. I wanted to say that previous sentence there because I don't want some sort of mob mentality of 'LokiV ain't an ISTp' etc and cause I like you too . So food for thought at same time.

    So also..

    In that thread, yeah you said in that thread in Delta just today maybe, that you'd hate you're dual if they weren't analytical. Why you'd expect an ENFp to be analytical, much less hate them for it is really odd. It does sound like Ti seeking on your part as well as I do sometimes think you are being far too good with Fe to have it as PoLR. I mean does it ever flare up? Do you ever show signs of ISTp stubborness like I do as well?

    I dunno, food for thought.
    For the ENFps, I meant "analytical" more in the sense of analyzing the stuff that's real easy for me to miss, like stuff that's not right in front of my face. I'd have to have someone who was anal about everything though, or even most things.

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    Oh, I don't know. ISFp can be pretty stubborn too. I see it in Jem sometimes, makes me want to give her high fives.

    Side note: Come to me Luis, I will seduce you with the wondrous powers of my analytical reasoning
    heh. For the record, I really do find ENTp's exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Oh, I don't know. ISFp can be pretty stubborn too. I see it in Jem sometimes, makes me want to give her high fives.

    Side note: Come to me Luis, I will seduce you with the wondrous powers of my analytical reasoning
    Of course they can, but I am extremely stubborn in factual logical discussions. I don't even think lokiv takes part in such things. He is too keen to keep the peace to be an ISTp, or at least a typical one. My PoLR has also been apparent once or twice around here. Lokiv seems weaker in T arguments and he does have some of the INFp ability to keep peace with everyone.

    And Jem knows i'm really different in my approach to Fe and Te than her lolz (Hi 5 Jem hope you're well doll!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    For the ENFps, I meant "analytical" more in the sense of analyzing the stuff that's real easy for me to miss, like stuff that's not right in front of my face. I'd have to have someone who was anal about everything though, or even most things.

    And since when did you get back? Welcome back
    Thank you. I'm only around for a short while or at least I will post infrequently. And sorry BTW i'm not trying to question you're type to say you ain't per se etc, just putting other things out there I guess. Maybe I should stop all the same so sorry brother

    What sort of stuff would you like em to be anal anal about though?

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    Cyclops is Te subtype
    LokiV is Si subtype

    and this resolves pretty much everything, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Cyclops is Te subtype
    LokiV is Si subtype

    and this resolves pretty much everything, doesn't it?
    Pretty much.

    Edit: Yeah, like, I enjoy T discussions to a point. But after a bit, I just can't seem to handle the mental masturbation like N type people can. I get antsy and I want to actually be able to do it.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is if I'd be a scientist, I'd definitely be an Experamentalist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    What sort of stuff would you like em to be anal about though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Cyclops is Te subtype
    LokiV is Si subtype

    and this resolves pretty much everything, doesn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    Pretty much.
    Rubbish, i'm actually an Si sub type.

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    Seems like not everyone on this forum knows what a ISTp looks like...

    Here is a subtype of ISTp, a basketball player on the Celtics.

    Kendrick Perkins
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=MPdOX_TxtB0

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    I even have the bouncing walking gait of Si sub type as described by Meged ISTp Si sub type.

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    I sound like that especially when talking with people I don't know.
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    Yeah okay, we will go nowhere if we suppose that out of 6 billion people, every person of a given type has to look exactly like every other person of a given type.

    If that is the case, it'd be easier to divide the population into 6 billion types and stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Saturn View Post
    Are you not also ENFj? Sorry, I have not been up to date on the discussion.
    I am.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard
    For the ENFps, I meant "analytical" more in the sense of analyzing the stuff that's real easy for me to miss, like stuff that's not right in front of my face. I'd have to have someone who was anal about everything though, or even most things.
    I'm sorry but this is not an SLI speaking. Sounds like textbook weak Te needing Ti.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah okay, we will go nowhere if we suppose that out of 6 billion people, every person of a given type has to look exactly like every other person of a given type.

    If that is the case, it'd be easier to divide the population into 6 billion types and stop it.
    Precisely. That's why I put forward some reasons to show how it was reasonable to doubt ISTp for lokiv. I also stressed that I wasn't saying he wasn't ISTp, and I stressed only he knows for sure and that I was only putting forth some possible points.

    But then for you to say we can't generalise for 6 billion types, despite right after saying and assuming i am Te sub type and lokiv is Si sub type and that this sub type statement of yours explains it all, is totally contradictory to your quoted post. I'm just pointing this out because this quoted post implies that know yourself that simple explanations aren't always right in these circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah okay, we will go nowhere if we suppose that out of 6 billion people, every person of a given type has to look exactly like every other person of a given type.

    If that is the case, it'd be easier to divide the population into 6 billion types and stop it.
    What I'm trying to do is get ppl to look for Perkins' quadra values, i.e. Si base, Fi-valuing... This sort of stuff you can detect in ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not an SLI speaking. Sounds like textbook weak Te needing Ti.
    No that's you misreading a typo. That first "have" was meant to be "Hate".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not an SLI speaking. Sounds like textbook weak Te needing Ti.
    I totally agree with you, in their general life, ENFp are seldom analytical or anal about anything really. Lokiv's statement is not what you get in an ENFp, and from ENFp's I know, they would find it very restrictive to have a partner who wanted these things from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Precisely. That's why I put forward some reasons to show how it was reasonable to doubt ISTp for lokiv. I also stressed that I wasn't saying he wasn't ISTp, and I stressed only he knows for sure and that I was only putting forth some possible points.

    But then for you to say we can't generalise for 6 billion types, despite right after saying and assuming i am Te sub type and lokiv is Si sub type and that this sub type statement of yours explains it all, is totally contradictory to your quoted post. I'm just pointing this out because this quoted post implies that know yourself that simple explanations aren't always right in these circumstances.
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    Well ILEs usually aren't anal, so that works just fine. It does sound like weak Te, though.
    Last edited by Gilly; 06-20-2008 at 06:40 PM.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    It was a typo!

    Fuck this, i'm outta here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    No that's you misreading a typo. That first "have" was meant to be "Hate".
    Nonetheless, the thread in question was an ENTp querying about ENFp's he or she knows and them not being able to be analytical. Not only because it's by an ENTp, it was meant that they therefore can't be T and you said in response to this, on that thread you would hate it if they weren't analytical. The thread, the post and response were all in a T sort of reference, with you therefore apparently seeking it.

    Also, this word analytical, (maybe unfortunately) it is a word in all fairness though which is not what's normally associated with ENFp in *any* sense.
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