I am not Beta

[Slacker]

He seems to talk alot about serving the community and is proud of his wife who owns a shop and creates employment for breast cancer patients. He enjoys talking about himself, achievements in life and the people he knows. Moreover, he cleverly portrays himself in a very positive light without downplaying his achievements at all. To elaborate his points, he enjoys sharing interesting anecdotes and can go tangential from the main topic. Moreover, he also stems his points from certain theories and seem to be concerned about their definition and how it relates to the point he is focusing.

Hence, I feel that it is likely that he is an Alpha type.

Sounds more Delta or Gamma than Alpha to me.

"He walks like a duck and talks like a duck. Hence, I feel he's a rabbit."

[Expat]

Frankly, I find it hard to explain it in words about why I think he might be Alpha,

How so?

Didn't you put it in words previously why you think he is (not "might" be") Alpha?

He seems to talk alot about serving the community and is proud of his wife who owns a shop and creates employment for breast cancer patients. He enjoys talking about himself, achievements in life and the people he knows. Moreover, he cleverly portrays himself in a very positive light without downplaying his achievements at all. To elaborate his points, he enjoys sharing interesting anecdotes and can go tangential from the main topic. Moreover, he also stems his points from certain theories and seem to be concerned about their definition and how it relates to the point he is focusing.

Hence, I feel that it is likely that he is an Alpha type.

You already put in words your reasons for thinking he's Alpha. It's not a question of you communicating yourself poorly. It's a question of your understanding of what makes a person an Alpha seeming to be out of sync with mine and those of the others who commented.

but thanks for all of your suggestions so far. I will look into that and take it into consideration. =)

Mine weren't really suggestions, more like observations.

[Ezra]

Sounds more Delta or Gamma than Alpha to me.

"He walks like a duck and talks like a duck. Hence, I feel he's a rabbit."

Unlucky, eunice. Case closed. You're not Delta. Come to bed now, hunbun.

[Ezra]

Fuck. Eunice, I don't care what fucking type you are. I fucking love you eunice. You are the shit. Don't ever get discouraged, ok? I wouldn't care if you were a fucking ENTj. I wouldn't care if you were Ne-INFj, or INFp, or ESTp, or 11w12, or whatever the fucking case may be. You are still <333 in my book.

Alright, Fe valuing. Fuck me. Not even ScarlettLux goes to these lengths to express her appreciation for someone.

ISWAK for the win.

...I so want a kiss?

[Slacker]

I like Eunice too. She seems very nice. I just don't think she's got this "INTj" typed right, and I am finding myself seriously doubting she's an INFj based on some of the stuff she's said in this and the other thread. Like not liking tangents and things. She gets annoyed by the way people with strong and valued Ne communicate but she thinks she has Ne in her ego block? It sounds to me like her teacher has strong Te, but that she has a hard time with Te and would be happier wiht someone who communicated using more Ti.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Not even ScarlettLux goes to these lengths to express her appreciation for someone.

Well Dolphin is a SEI-mediator so of course she's sensitive to people being ganged up on, and 25 people basically telling a single person the same thing, no matter how correct they are. Doesn't mean she can't kick your porn-loving, frat boy ass when she has to though. =p

[Ezra]

Well Dolphin is a SEI-mediator so of course she's sensitive to people being ganged up on, and 25 people basically telling a single person the same thing, no matter how correct they are. Doesn't mean she can't kick your porn-loving, frat boy ass when she has to though. =p

lulz!

What's a frat boy? Sorry, I grew up in a real country.

[eunice]

Fuck. Eunice, I don't care what fucking type you are. I fucking love you eunice. You are the shit. Don't ever get discouraged, ok? I wouldn't care if you were a fucking ENTj. I wouldn't care if you were Ne-INFj, or INFp, or ESTp, or 11w12, or whatever the fucking case may be. You are still <333 in my book.

ISWAK for the win.

Thanks. <3 That's very kind of you. =)

It sounds to me like her teacher has strong Te, but that she has a hard time with Te and would be happier wiht someone who communicated using more Ti.

I will research more on Ti. Any articles (excluding Socionics related) which is representative of Ti to recommend?

[Expat]

I will research more on Ti. Any articles (excluding Socionics related) which is representative of Ti to recommend?

A constitution of a country is Ti in nature. So is an article on theoretical mathematics.

[Ezra]

Thanks. <3 That's very kind of you. =)

Aaaand, there you are. Reacting peculiarly well to Fe for a Fe devaluing individual.

[munenori2]

Aaaand, there you are. Reacting peculiarly well to Fe for a Fe devaluing individual.

LOL

[FDG]

<<<3333 to me!

Oh fabio, that's so nice! <<<33 to you too!!

Oh fabio, that's soooooooo nice, we must be Fe types!!! let's <333!!!

[eunice]

I would have identified with INFp, if not for the Beta qualities as depicted on wikisocion.

There are qualities which I admire about Beta, but they seem more concerned about status and power than I do imo, or wanting to "thrash" others. If the descriptions on wikisocion are to be taken word for word, that it.

[Ezra]

Get real. Anyone can spew a bunch of little hearts in an enthusiastic manner. It has no fucking correlation to Fe. Quit twisting my genuine sentiments for Eunice into some bullshit interpretation of how she's Fe valuing.

You're fucking Fe valuing too, you fucking seahorse. Go fuck an Otter.

lol @ fdg

Also lol @ fabies

I would have identified with INFp, if not for the Beta qualities as depicted on wikisocion.

There are qualities which I admire about Beta, but they seem more concerned about status and power than I do imo, or wanting to "thrash" others. If the descriptions on wikisocion are to be taken word for word, that it.

omfg

Just how stupid are you?

1. If you were Delta, there would be NOTHER you admired about Beta. You are completely averse to their methods and way of life.

2. I'm doing a poll on this. It's too good to miss.

By the way, if you're an IEI, you're the ass-licker to the power-/status-hungry SLE. As they say in Yankeyland, suck oan mah junk, biyatch.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Slacker]

The wiki was written largely by Gamma and Delta people, so it's possible a Beta person wouldn't 100% identify with the description.

Do you identify 100% with the Delta description, then?

[Ezra]

Ezra, what's your deal? You're getting kind of full of yourself here.

It's not true that a delta can't admire qualities from beta. You'd be sort of ignorant not to notice the good stuff in other quadras, even your conflicting quadra. So, that's no point to be made. There are other related angles that you could try though.

You're right. I see benefits in all quadras. (Except Alpha.)

The wiki was written largely by Gamma and Delta people, so it's possible a Beta person wouldn't 100% identify with the description.

Absolutely. I was discussing this with Expat about a month ago when I met him. To him and other Gammas, our behaviour as Betas looks "group-based". However, both myself and other IEIs on the board have expressed that we do not feel an affinity with any group-based activity. It's just not our thing (well, it certainly isn't mine). However, I do participate in this kind of activity a fair bit of the time, often because I believe it's necessary or important to keep up a Fe appearance (for whatever reason). In this way, I can see how others would perceive my behaviour to be group-orientated.

One thing I do want to mention is that I don't think the wiki description facilitates IEIs particularly well. I mean, it doesn't really show any of the types in their specific light, but I think it hinders understanding of the IEI the most.

[Elro]

You're right. I see benefits in all quadras. (Except Alpha.)

That's because you're an ignorant-faced turdball.

[Ezra]

Hahahahaha. Naaah, it's just on paper that Alphas look and sound ridiculous. In real life, they're a really nice bunch of people.

[eunice]

Do you identify 100% with the Delta description, then?

Yup. That was part of the reason why I believe that I identify with the Delta quadra.

[Mea]

Yup. That was part of the reason why I believe that I identify with the Delta quadra.

my beta friends don't relate to the beta quadra descriptions I showed them FTR. Especially the ENFj-Ni and INFp.

Probably, it's because the beta quadra descriptions aren't written by betas?