Do yourself and others consider you as physically attractive ?

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I don't think it's such a cut and dry thing. I mean I can be physically attracted to someone who I would say is objectively pretty plain. And I'm not talking about getting to know someone better and gradually thinking they're better looking than they are. I mean immediate physical attraction. I think it's more about what sort of energy the person is producing and whether you are attracted or repulsed by it.

Within reason though.

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I don't think it's such a cut and dry thing. I mean I can be physically attracted to someone who I would say is objectively pretty plain. And I'm not talking about getting to know someone better and gradually thinking they're better looking than they are. I mean immediate physical attraction. I think it's more about what sort of energy the person is producing and whether you are attracted or repulsed by it.

Within reason though.

exactly...

[Ms. Kensington]

I don't think it's such a cut and dry thing. I mean I can be physically attracted to someone who I would say is objectively pretty plain. And I'm not talking about getting to know someone better and gradually thinking they're better looking than they are. I mean immediate physical attraction. I think it's more about what sort of energy the person is producing and whether you are attracted or repulsed by it.

Within reason though.

I think that machintruc meant something that cuts all of that out. Maybe the definition changes over time, but i think one thing that scientists have figured out is that there is a correlation between symmetry and attractiveness in the human face. There's also something like a beautiful face set of proportions, one of which faces fits it is Elizabeth Hurley. Of course you're right that being attracted to someone is highly subjective, in that it will vary from person to person. But I would think that if youre heterosexual you would find some things to be objectively a requirement, like the opposite sex organ you have?

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I think that machintruc meant something that cuts all of that out. Maybe the definition changes over time, but i think one thing that scientists have figured out is that there is a correlation between symmetry and attractiveness in the human face. There's also something like a beautiful face set of proportions, one of which faces fits it is Elizabeth Hurley. Of course you're right that being attracted to someone is highly subjective, in that it will vary from person to person.

Yeah, but he didn't ask whether you were actually physically attractive - just whether you and other people have found yourself to be attractive. So that suggested to me that he was after subjective opinions on your attractiveness rather than the actual truth. But maybe I'm being overly pedantic.

But I would think that if youre heterosexual you would find some things to be objectively a requirement, like the opposite sex organ you have?

Haha. Yeah - hence the 'within reason'.

[Ms. Kensington]

Yeah, but he didn't ask whether you were actually physically attractive - just whether you and other people have found yourself to be attractive. So that suggested to me that he was after subjective opinions on your attractiveness rather than the actual truth. But maybe I'm being overly pedantic.
Haha. Yeah - hence the 'within reason'.

yeah.. but to me the "physically" part of his question made it seem more to the objective (many people agree) interpretation.

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yeah.. but to me the "physically" part of his question made it seem more to the objective (many people agree) interpretation.

I think deciding on what is physically attractive is just as subjective as deciding on what is attractive personality-wise. Providing they're healthy and in good shape, I think you could find 16 random people of different physical types and everyone would disagree over who was the most attractive. A lot of the celebrities aren't really that stunning - but they take care of themselves so they look the best that they can look. I think most of the people we encounter every day would look just as attractive as most celebrities if they put a bit of effort into taking care of themselves.

But I'm thinking of people's potential to be attractive - maybe that doesn't count. :-)

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I dunno.

Some days I can look in the mirror and find myself attractive.

Other days I think, wow, you need some sleep. I'm not going to find myself attractive all the time. Even extremely good-looking people can look completely unappealing at times.
Surely you've noticed that.

Just because you have bed-head one day doesn't mean you're not attractive lol. It's something inherent from birth. Sure, transient physical things like acne or a bad hair day can keep it from coming out completely, but it's always there.

As for good-looking people being unappealing, that probably comes down to personal preference and stuff that is below the surface, i.e., a hot but shallow and stupid girl isn't that appealing (except in one way lol).

[Ms. Kensington]

I think deciding on what is physically attractive is just as subjective as deciding on what is attractive personality-wise. Providing they're healthy and in good shape, I think you could find 16 random people of different physical types and everyone would disagree over who was the most attractive. A lot of the celebrities aren't really that stunning - but they take care of themselves so they look the best that they can look. I think most of the people we encounter every day would look just as attractive as most celebrities if they put a bit of effort into taking care of themselves.

But I'm thinking of people's potential to be attractive - maybe that doesn't count. :-)

i think placing emphasis on physical gave a clue that machintruc meant to minimize subjective factors, since it is less likely to misinterpret physical data. this is my opinion. We aren't talking about being most attractive either, and you're admitting that they have to be in good shape and healthy, which are objective (have to be uniform).