Any Letterman fans here? I think he's the funniest guy on television. Too bad there arn't many people that are as funny and quirky as Letterman on television.
I think he's ENFP. What about Jay Leno? Conan? Johnny Carson?
Any Letterman fans here? I think he's the funniest guy on television. Too bad there arn't many people that are as funny and quirky as Letterman on television.
I think he's ENFP. What about Jay Leno? Conan? Johnny Carson?
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He strikes me as being more introverted. I actually met him once, when I was in college and his show was much later at night and not so popular He was really really nice. Very polite and respectful and caring.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
letterman: INTx .. probably INTj.
thing.
They're all ENTps, really, I'm not joking.
EDIT: sorry, except Carson, who I believe to be ENTj.
Conan's not an ENTp. xNTj, at best.
thing.
I'm quite convinced Letterman's type is ENTp.
Greetings, ragnar
They claim Letterman to be an ENTJ in www.typelogic.com. I find him to be either an ENTP or an ENFJ. Well, it appears that he has a strong developed extraverted feeling, but that could be either because he was always that way OR because he has aged, he has developed his weaker functions, which was his extraverted feeling and introverted sensing of the ENTP type.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
@Young_and_Confused (that is so perfect right now ): The functions in socionics are a little different.
An ENTp would be:
(Base)
(Creative)
(Role)
(PoLR)
(Dual-seeking)
(Hidden Agenda)
(Personal Knowledge)
(Concrete Art)
An ENFp would be:
(Base)
(Creative)
(Role)
(PoLR)
(Dual-seeking)
(Hidden Agenda)
(Personal Knowledge)
(Concrete Art)
Yeah, I am pretty oblivious to this example you showed me, shows how little I really know. Where did you get this information? Oh yeah Rocky, by the way I'm also in the www.entp.org forum as Tethered_Soul. I'm in 4 fourms at the moment.Originally Posted by Rocky
Yeah, I posted the above post, I got to get into the habit of logging in.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Crystal clear ENTJ, unsure of subtype, disagree with me at your own peril. Well-spoken, mentally quick, thoughtful, clever, likes to aggravate some of his guests and is unafraid of conflict. Makes several of his guests look completely stupid (they usually walk in that way, but well, you know?). Where's the polr? Just check out his smile . His whole show is very Gamma, Paul Schaffer I believe is an ESE (?). If you want to watch something that has a lot of very strong Gamma core values just watch his.
If you want to watch an Alpha show watch Craig Ferguson's Late Night Show. Because he spends most of his time talking about a snake that has wound itself around his cup. And tea. And marshmallows. And his cat. And a gay skeleton. His type is... ese? Not sure, seems like an alpha SF, pretty sure he's alpha something.
Uh, no. Letterman's likely ISTp, and Craig Ferguson is definitely Se-ESFp.
I hate your typings.
Why do you think Letterman's an istp besides from the fact that you are (or you think you are) an entj and that he may not have anything in common with you?
Letterman has always struck me as ILE.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
He's not leading to me unless he's living in complete denial of his leading function (which can happen eg. a sloppy ISTP/ISFP but unlikely).
Why do you think he's ILE?
For exactly the reasons you said he is LIE: "Well-spoken, mentally quick, thoughtful, clever, likes to aggravate some of his guests and is unafraid of conflict. Makes several of his guests look completely stupid." I think ILE fits this description even better than LIE.
Also the fact that you think Paul Schaffer is ESE, which I agree on that typing makes it even more likely he's ILE considering that wouldn't he prefer his sidekick to be someone of his own quadra rather than an opposing quadra?
I don't want to derail the thread, but I think Craig Ferguson is most likely a SEE instead of an ESE based on his overall behavior.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
He's very Delta. Not sure which type though. VI-wise ISTP seems alright.
oops, I meant SEE for Paul Shaffer. But he could anything.
I opened this thread expecting to see Jay Leno, thinking "that man is not an ENTJ". When I saw the photo and realized that oh, Jay Leno and David Letterman are not the same person.
Here's David Letterman unintentionally being awkward as hell around ESE Alton Brown:
Also, his extreme, unrequited distaste for ESE Jay Leno, who I caught dualizing with LII Larry David, points me to him being an SLI Supervisee in both cases...
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Not really sure... maybe he is... He doesn't ring obvious SLI bells to me (from a VI-standpoint), but that could be just because he's a different breed of SLI from the few that I know irl (who are all Te-SLI). Are you guys thinking he's Si-subtype by chance?
And sure, he's cool. His humor hasn't been all that interesting to me though, so i dont watch his show much.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
How is he being awkward?
That other guy reminds me of Freddie Roach a bit.
I'm so sorry but I have to ask this: how and when did you catch them "dualizing"? What is dualizing?
He doesn't even look like he's comfortable in his own skin here!
2:30's a good place to start; something's making Letterman nervous, and I think it's the from Alton Brown - he fumbles the cheese, he starts nervous with the wisk then speeds up really fast, he sounds nervous and timid when telling the jokes (Dave's got a lot more mojo than this usually), he does awful on the frosting... poor dude's just shutting down...
Here's a link to it, and here's Wikisocion on Duality
In short, these two just find an incredibly great rhythm with each other. Jay Leno's generally a terrible interviewer, I think; always stuttering and interjecting and asking petty questions, but him and Larry David hit it off insanely well; they're comfortable around each other, their senses of humor mesh well and create some hilarious moments... I'm not a huge fan of either when alone, but the part with the denim is just great...
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Really? Isn't that just how he is?
He doesn't look that nervous to me...
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think that video of Jay Leno and Larry David shows they're duals, he has the same feel as his wife on his show. I just think they're not on the same wavelength cerebrally as comedians.
Traveler: why do you think he is LIE>ILE?
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Why can't you send me a pm? I've checked my profile and I've got it enabled.
I don't know what my type is. My identity is in limbo at the moment (due to lots of reasons). I have been an SEI, IEE and an LII. I am sure I'm intuitive > sensing and although I have always thought I was good at evaluating relationships and people I have begun to realize that is not entirely true. So I'm thinking logic > ethics for me but due to the vast amount of stupid shit I've done, I don't really know.
What do you think I am?
1) Nothing in socionics is 'crystal clear'.
2) Not really inviting to say to disagree at our own peril.
3) Most importantly, you don't have much credibility in your argument when you aren't even sure what your type is. How can you be sure what someone else's type is?
I don't care what the reasons are. You're new and learning, which brings me to my next point:
4) You joined 16types in July 2011. LAST MONTH. How you can join, start studying socionics, and them immediately start spouting your opinions of others' types as 'CRYSTAL CLEAR' is beyond me. Socionics is one of those things that is relatively easy to learn, but takes a while to master.
Please explain this more, Master of VI. How does his smile show Si POLR?
i met letterman in person once. his head is huge.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Metaphorically or like a watermelon???
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Yeah but some things are and if you can't see that it's because you're stupid. Sorry.1) Nothing in socionics is 'crystal clear'.
Sorry.2) Not really inviting to say to disagree at our own peril.
That's great . And my being sure of my type is somehow indicative of my understanding of socionics? Maybe I don't want to share with you what I think my type is or maybe I don't know myself as well as I had thought.3) Most importantly, you don't have much credibility in your argument when you aren't even sure what your type is. How can you be sure what someone else's type is?
And for someone who thinks "nothing is clear in socionics", how sure are you of your type?
One more thing: why don't you think he's LIE again?
I could have been lurking for years, you just never know. Or I might possess incredible intelligence and insight which allows me to learn things extremely quickly. Who cares?I don't care what the reasons are. You're new and learning, which brings me to my next point:
4) You joined 16types in July 2011. LAST MONTH. How you can join, start studying socionics, and them immediately start spouting your opinions of others' types as 'CRYSTAL CLEAR' is beyond me. Socionics is one of those things that is relatively easy to learn, but takes a while to master.
What does this have to do with what type David Letterman is? If you think I'm wrong tell me why.
Do you take everything everyone says literally? Are your interpersonal skills really that bad? Must be your polr eh?
The dude is totally shutting down; it's not "jittery" nervous, it's something else entirely. Notice when he's stirring the milk uncharacteristically slowly and cautiously? Notice when, upon hearing Alton Brown's voice, the speed of his stirring jumps up a ton, to the point of almost spilling the milk? He already upset the cheese block, and his voice is low and kinda quivering when he's telling the jokes... he didn't even come close to properly frosting that cake on the record table...
That's the exact one I was referring to
What type would you have for Jay Leno (you don't have to have a set type, I'm interested)? What about him makes you go for him as Te/Fi?
What I saw was two people naturally letting out Seinfeld-ish (the show, not the comedian) humor in real-time, which I set as a certain type of Alpha humor... it took me a long time to understand its appeal...
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Poli is right. He's Delta. Emotionally/personally he drains me, and there's nothing there.
Most talk show hosts are Delta I think.
David Letterman is probably ESTj/ISTp.
His Te-ego eyes make me want to drink battery acid.
Yuck, yuck YUCK.
Jay Leno seems ESE to me.
Letterman seems Delta Rational to me.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...